Ratings Scale - 2-8 vs 1-100

X3NEIZE · 10-02-2013, 01:19 AM

I see a lot of people using 2-8 over 1-20, in fact wouldn't 1-100 give you a much higher accuracy on the actual ratings?

What are you guys using and why? Just curious as to the logic of why you picked a particular rating scale over another one.

Fyrestorm3 · 10-02-2013, 01:26 AM

I wouldn't say higher accuracy, because scouts factor in, but yes, 1-100 gives you a much finer view of a player's abilities.

But that's why I use 2-8 (if I use ratings at all). I want fog of war.

X3NEIZE · 10-02-2013, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

I wouldn't say higher accuracy, because scouts factor in, but yes, 1-100 gives you a much finer view of a player's abilities.

But that's why I use 2-8 (if I use ratings at all). I want fog of war.

Ahh ok, you want the challenge. That makes sense. I wouldn't be able to play with anything else than 1-20... for 20 years I've been playing Football Manager and it has the 1-20 scale which I got used to, however I also like 1-100 for finer comparisons.

MrDov · 10-02-2013, 02:18 AM

I've always used 1-20 but oftentimes I found myself too focused on ratings that may or may not be accurate instead of focusing on performance. I thought about doing stats only for a while but it was too difficult to set up. I'm in the middle of simming through 10 years of a fictional league where I'll have potential ratings on a 2-8 scale and current ratings will be hidden. So far just looking from afar I like it though I haven't gotten to any player management yet so we'll see.

rworth88 · 10-02-2013, 07:23 AM

I've always used 20-80 , my pops used to be a scout and he drilled it into my brain..

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oldtimey · 10-02-2013, 08:11 AM

As far back as I remember, every sim I have played had rating scales of either 1-100 or 0-99. That is just what I am used to. Only sim series I that I played that didn't use this was Pursue the Pennant/Diamond Mind Baseball that had ratings like Ex, Vg, G, Fr and Pr. Just a creature of habit. No other reason.

RchW · 10-02-2013, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by X3NEIZE

I see a lot of people using 2-8 over 1-20, in fact wouldn't 1-100 give you a much higher accuracy on the actual ratings?

What are you guys using and why? Just curious as to the logic of why you picked a particular rating scale over another one.

I use 1-5 in order to fog up the fine differences seen in 1-100. I don't use scouts.

X3NEIZE · 10-02-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

I use 1-5 in order to fog up the fine differences seen in 1-100. I don't use scouts.

wow, now that's hardcore!

RchW · 10-02-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by X3NEIZE

wow, now that's hardcore!

Not as hardcore as stats only. The game is much tougher to dominate.

X3NEIZE · 10-02-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Not as hardcore as stats only. The game is much tougher to dominate.

Yeah but it's also unrealistic to not have a reference to ratings, after all that is what baseball is all about when grading prospects at least.

Padreman · 10-02-2013, 06:32 PM

How do you change the rating scale?

RchW · 10-02-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

How do you change the rating scale?

Game/Setup and Options/Global Setup

Rizon · 10-02-2013, 07:13 PM

I used and loved 1-100 for a long, long time. Even in other games. Eventually, I got tired of it. Needed more of a challenge. Went to 1-10+ for a couple of seasons, then to 2-8. I found I was too hung up on a guy that was 75/100 over a guy that was 74/100.

tejdog1 · 10-03-2013, 05:07 AM

I use 1-100, it's much easier to go "50 is average, 75 is super, 90 is a star" as opposed to 20/80 where a 60 is "75", etc...

jaysdailydose · 10-03-2013, 02:43 PM

For my personal games I use 20-80. At times, I've adopted other scales for my dynasty reports based on what I see a lot of people use just to have things have a "common base" -- but I think I'm going to stop doing that.

I've also looked into "stats only" but I've got to read more on it. I always use a full scouting system, so...

Here's a really good article from BaseballNewsHound... a lot of why I use the 20-80 scale is dictated in there.

The Scouting Encyclopedia

kingcharlesxii · 10-03-2013, 02:46 PM

My favorite is still 1-10. Decent fog of war and easy to understand at a glance. The only one I'd ever potentially switch to would be 1-5.

The Game · 10-03-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by X3NEIZE

I see a lot of people using 2-8 over 1-20, in fact wouldn't 1-100 give you a much higher accuracy on the actual ratings?

What are you guys using and why? Just curious as to the logic of why you picked a particular rating scale over another one.

I dislike 2-8 i prefer 1-10 but 1-100 is also nice.

D-BacksJosh · 10-03-2013, 10:55 PM

I used to use 1-10, but 2-8 is the best fit for me. Like others, I need to have that 'fog of war'. 1-100 feels like cheating to me.

Fyrestorm3 · 10-03-2013, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tejdog1

I use 1-100, it's much easier to go "50 is average, 75 is super, 90 is a star" as opposed to 20/80 where a 60 is "75", etc...

See, I'm the opposite. I like 2-8 because it gives you a VERY simple, linear progression:

2 - Terrible
3 - Poor
4 - Sub-Par
5 - Average
6 - Good
7 - Great
8 - Outstanding

1-100 muddles that up with needless distinctions between, say, 71 and 75. They're both good, what's 4 points of difference, right? But like Rizon said above, I tend to get hung up on that minor difference and see Mr. 75 as being head and shoulders above Mr. 71, when in reality, both players would be pretty much the same.

snepp · 10-04-2013, 12:18 AM

Another reason why I prefer the small scales is that it makes viewing things in the game much nicer. When you're creating a custom view that has a dozen or more ratings on it, it sure is nice to only be looking at single digits. Double digits can get very busy, and very cluttered in a hurry.

10-02-2013, 01:19 AM	#1
X3NEIZE All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 649	Ratings Scale - 2-8 vs 1-100 I see a lot of people using 2-8 over 1-20, in fact wouldn't 1-100 give you a much higher accuracy on the actual ratings? What are you guys using and why? Just curious as to the logic of why you picked a particular rating scale over another one.

10-02-2013, 07:13 PM	#13
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,363	I used and loved 1-100 for a long, long time. Even in other games. Eventually, I got tired of it. Needed more of a challenge. Went to 1-10+ for a couple of seasons, then to 2-8. I found I was too hung up on a guy that was 75/100 over a guy that was 74/100. __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

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tejdog1 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Danbury, CT Posts: 1,618	I use 1-100, it's much easier to go "50 is average, 75 is super, 90 is a star" as opposed to 20/80 where a 60 is "75", etc... __________________ It's amazing How you make your face just like a wall How you take your heart and turn it off How I turn my head and lose it all And it's unnerving How just one move puts me by myself There you go just trusting someone else Now I know I put us both through hell ~Matchbox 20, "Leave" Everyone knows it's spelled "TRAID", not trade

10-03-2013, 02:43 PM	#15
jaysdailydose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,325	For my personal games I use 20-80. At times, I've adopted other scales for my dynasty reports based on what I see a lot of people use just to have things have a "common base" -- but I think I'm going to stop doing that. I've also looked into "stats only" but I've got to read more on it. I always use a full scouting system, so... Here's a really good article from BaseballNewsHound... a lot of why I use the 20-80 scale is dictated in there. The Scouting Encyclopedia __________________ Manager - Motor City Marshals Perfect Manager/Discord Name: jaysdailydose

10-02-2013, 01:26 AM	#2
Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	I wouldn't say higher accuracy, because scouts factor in, but yes, 1-100 gives you a much finer view of a player's abilities. But that's why I use 2-8 (if I use ratings at all). I want fog of war.

10-02-2013, 02:18 AM	#4
MrDov Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 275	I've always used 1-20 but oftentimes I found myself too focused on ratings that may or may not be accurate instead of focusing on performance. I thought about doing stats only for a while but it was too difficult to set up. I'm in the middle of simming through 10 years of a fictional league where I'll have potential ratings on a 2-8 scale and current ratings will be hidden. So far just looking from afar I like it though I haven't gotten to any player management yet so we'll see.

10-02-2013, 07:23 AM	#5
rworth88 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 167	I've always used 20-80 , my pops used to be a scout and he drilled it into my brain.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free

10-02-2013, 08:11 AM	#6
oldtimey Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 60	As far back as I remember, every sim I have played had rating scales of either 1-100 or 0-99. That is just what I am used to. Only sim series I that I played that didn't use this was Pursue the Pennant/Diamond Mind Baseball that had ratings like Ex, Vg, G, Fr and Pr. Just a creature of habit. No other reason.

10-02-2013, 06:32 PM	#11
Padreman Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2013 Location: Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico (formally San Diego, CA.) Posts: 4,140 Blog Entries: 1	How do you change the rating scale?

10-03-2013, 02:46 PM	#16
kingcharlesxii Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,730	My favorite is still 1-10. Decent fog of war and easy to understand at a glance. The only one I'd ever potentially switch to would be 1-5.

10-03-2013, 10:55 PM	#18
D-BacksJosh Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 875	I used to use 1-10, but 2-8 is the best fit for me. Like others, I need to have that 'fog of war'. 1-100 feels like cheating to me.

10-04-2013, 12:18 AM	#20
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,370	Another reason why I prefer the small scales is that it makes viewing things in the game much nicer. When you're creating a custom view that has a dozen or more ratings on it, it sure is nice to only be looking at single digits. Double digits can get very busy, and very cluttered in a hurry.