player development

kagnew35 · 04-13-2006, 05:23 PM

player development is somethiong i don't fully understand. When a player is in minors, does he really get hurt by bringing him up to majors too soon?
also, how much do ST training ratings affect a player? I have 18 yr old bret saberhagen in online league, if I bring him up early, will it curtail his development?

rudel.dietrich · 04-13-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kagnew35

player development is somethiong i don't fully understand. When a player is in minors, does he really get hurt by bringing him up to majors too soon?
also, how much do ST training ratings affect a player? I have 18 yr old bret saberhagen in online league, if I bring him up early, will it curtail his development?

#1
It can hurt. There is no set in stone formula though. You just have to use your collective gut feeling and game experience in moving players through your system.
I usualy base it 50/50 on stats and ratings. If a player hits certain ratings and is tearing up the league he is in over a large sample size then I move him up.
I hardly ever take age into consideration. Only time I ever do so is if I have a guy in his late 20s in A/AA and I try and force him up to get at least something out of him by chance.

#2
An 18 year old can play at the ML level. If his ratings are near what you have in your minors then I would leave him in the minors.
Real roster sets are hard to judge since players come into the game with high ratings as young players.

Twelvefield · 04-14-2006, 04:39 AM

I would suggest that the vast majority of players benefit from a gradual movement from A to AA to AAA to ML ball - maybe even moving only once a season. Trouble is, there's enough exceptions to make you wonder. Also, the level of coaching you have for each team might influence your players' development. Finally, you have to weigh the growth potential of your minor league player versus the needs of your major league team. Injuries can really knock big holes in your line-up, so calling up a kid from A ball to patch up those holes in your team can be risky. Then, too, there's salary issues that can come up if you promote too many minor-leaguers, and you're at the limit of your salary cap.

jm47048 · 04-14-2006, 03:13 PM

I have noticed that if you hire a better manager in a minor league team, the players get better.

Funny, I have the best record in my league, but some of the worst minors players ever.

jm47048 · 05-04-2006, 08:21 PM

You know, I noticed this thread again, and I wanted to say that I hope that player development is actually better in the new version. It seems like, to me at least, that if you get a good, solid 18 year old in A, and it takes him 7 years to get through AAA to the Majors, he is already 25 and has lost some good years. It seems more players then not do this more often then they should. Sadly, I don't know the real MLB stats on how often players are moved and at what ages they are, so I can't decide if the number of players that move through all levels of minors into the majors is realisitic.

DougWyatt · 05-05-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jm47048

You know, I noticed this thread again, and I wanted to say that I hope that player development is actually better in the new version. It seems like, to me at least, that if you get a good, solid 18 year old in A, and it takes him 7 years to get through AAA to the Majors, he is already 25 and has lost some good years. It seems more players then not do this more often then they should. Sadly, I don't know the real MLB stats on how often players are moved and at what ages they are, so I can't decide if the number of players that move through all levels of minors into the majors is realisitic.

Yes, that is very sad.

04-14-2006, 03:13 PM	#4
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04-13-2006, 05:23 PM	#1
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04-14-2006, 04:39 AM	#3
Twelvefield All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,188	I would suggest that the vast majority of players benefit from a gradual movement from A to AA to AAA to ML ball - maybe even moving only once a season. Trouble is, there's enough exceptions to make you wonder. Also, the level of coaching you have for each team might influence your players' development. Finally, you have to weigh the growth potential of your minor league player versus the needs of your major league team. Injuries can really knock big holes in your line-up, so calling up a kid from A ball to patch up those holes in your team can be risky. Then, too, there's salary issues that can come up if you promote too many minor-leaguers, and you're at the limit of your salary cap.

05-04-2006, 08:21 PM	#5
jm47048 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,244	You know, I noticed this thread again, and I wanted to say that I hope that player development is actually better in the new version. It seems like, to me at least, that if you get a good, solid 18 year old in A, and it takes him 7 years to get through AAA to the Majors, he is already 25 and has lost some good years. It seems more players then not do this more often then they should. Sadly, I don't know the real MLB stats on how often players are moved and at what ages they are, so I can't decide if the number of players that move through all levels of minors into the majors is realisitic.