* Updated Fighters * - Page 2

a87star · 06-28-2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceTea

That link is the 2004 version of Thompson, before he defeated Bean and Diaz.

MJ

Just showing you he was in the online DB. He's definitely higher than a three. I think he has a shot against Guinn tonight. What do you think Mark?

IceTea · 06-28-2006, 08:57 PM

I think he has a shot too though Guinn is on a winning streak. Thompson is a good combination puncher, he is 6'6", and has never been stopped. In addition, you have to have some skill to defeat Vaughn Bean. I'm glad that you mentioned that he is fighting tonight, I'm busy watching the NBA draft.

MJ

a87star · 06-28-2006, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceTea

I think he has a shot too though Guinn is on a winning streak. Thompson is a good combination puncher, he is 6'6", and has never been stopped. In addition, you have to have some skill to defeat Vaughn Bean. I'm glad that you mentioned that he is fighting tonight, I'm busy watching the NBA draft.

MJ

Beating Vaughn Bean is quite an impressive win for any young fighter. I'll probably be watching the fight since my team traded it's pick to Chicago, who then preceded to ship that pick to Portland.

IceTea · 06-29-2006, 12:22 AM

Tony Thompson HW
Rating: weak 6

Isn't really a counter puncher. Works off the jab and has good ring gerneralship.

IceTea · 06-29-2006, 12:23 AM

Dominic Guinn
Rating: 4
Post-Prime

a87star · 06-29-2006, 12:27 AM

I agree on both ratings. That is what I would have given Thompson, also.

IceTea · 06-29-2006, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a87star

I agree on both ratings. That is what I would have given Thompson, also.

I try not to look at the final rating but the highest in the current crop are 8s. I was tinkering with Sultan Imbragimov today and I had him around a 9...Yikes. He hasn't faught anyone yet really.

MJ

lethal liberal · 06-29-2006, 03:31 PM

Lets hope he is a helluva lot better than Timur. In general,people say he is the better prospect,still it makes you wary when you see a performance like Timur had against Brock.

lethal liberal · 06-29-2006, 03:34 PM

I gave Thompson a couple of 3 point jabs and crosses and improved his cf vs both boxers and sluggers. I think that he is a strong 5 with my improved rating. Mine is very close to yours Ice. I havent tweaked Guinn yet,but your 4 seems about right. I try not to re-rate after one showing,but when a guy stinks up the place as he did last night makes it hard not to lower everthing..lol.

lethal liberal · 06-29-2006, 03:37 PM

I think that the Trunzos could probably make a little money if they would rate a list of new fighters every 6 months or so. I would pay for the ratings. I know they are strapped for time and that Title Bout is the least of their concerns,but how long would it take to create a few new ratings a couple of times a year? I think most on here would gladly pay for their time. I am not bitching,because the guys have been very good to its base customers. I have always been pleased with the way I have been treated. I just think that would be a way for them to make a little extra money on the title bout game.

mh2365 · 06-29-2006, 03:51 PM

I agree 100% ... now I know the boxrec ratings are a joke ... but every 6 months or so the should go through the top 50 lists and make about 100-200 new fighters and update 100-200 fighters and charge $5-$10 for it. I'd buy it each and every time.

The problem would be finding a way to keep people who bought it from reposting the ratings.

a87star · 06-29-2006, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethal liberal

Lets hope he is a helluva lot better than Timur. In general,people say he is the better prospect,still it makes you wary when you see a performance like Timur had against Brock.

Sultan has been considered the better prospect and to have the higher upside. Timur was considered to be a decent HW going into the Brock fight. We'll know more about Sultan once he fights Ray Austin this fall. He did easily handle Lance Whitaker in his first step up fight, though (not much, I know).

IceTea · 06-29-2006, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethal liberal

I gave Thompson a couple of 3 point jabs and crosses and improved his cf vs both boxers and sluggers. I think that he is a strong 5 with my improved rating. Mine is very close to yours Ice. I havent tweaked Guinn yet,but your 4 seems about right. I try not to re-rate after one showing,but when a guy stinks up the place as he did last night makes it hard not to lower everthing..lol.

I'm not going to rerate guys after each fight. It is mainly for rerating fighters after each fight and tweeking those I've already created.

Rasmuth · 06-30-2006, 12:56 PM

anybody interested in actually posting the ratings...so losers like me...well...maybe just me, can use them in TBCB1?

I know the upgrade is well worth it...but for now...I'm still TBCB1...

IceTea · 07-02-2006, 02:02 AM

Chazz Witherspoon (update)
Rating: 4
* Lacks handspeed * Lacks Power * Gets hit
* Is conditioned to go a hard 12 * Keeps busy * Throws lots of punches.

mh2365 · 07-02-2006, 10:33 AM

probably a good rating, wasn't too impressed. Made Brock look good and that's not easy to do.

lethal liberal · 07-02-2006, 11:31 AM

Hey Rasmuth,I think Andreas is going to put the updated ratings in the online database pretty soon,you should be able to get them from there. Once I figure out who all was rerated in this new db..I would gladly post them for you.

lethal liberal · 07-02-2006, 11:37 AM

Ice,your ratings are very good,actually very close to my ratings. I didnt mean any disrespect,I wasnt implying that you rerate after each fight,I was just saying that sometimes I have to fight the urge to re rate fighters after one fight! LOL. Sometimes,when a guy is rated highly and he goes out and gets whacked in the first round,or just gets dominated for an entire fight,it is very hard not to go in and lower his ratings drastically. I have done that before and the guy bounces back with a huge upset or something..lol. I think you do a great job rating fighters. I always consider everyones rating when I am rating my own fighters. I like to compare,and if its a fighter that I am not real familiar with,I usually will go with someone else rating.

IceTea · 07-02-2006, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethal liberal

Ice,your ratings are very good,actually very close to my ratings. I didnt mean any disrespect,I wasnt implying that you rerate after each fight,I was just saying that sometimes I have to fight the urge to re rate fighters after one fight! LOL. Sometimes,when a guy is rated highly and he goes out and gets whacked in the first round,or just gets dominated for an entire fight,it is very hard not to go in and lower his ratings drastically. I have done that before and the guy bounces back with a huge upset or something..lol. I think you do a great job rating fighters. I always consider everyones rating when I am rating my own fighters. I like to compare,and if its a fighter that I am not real familiar with,I usually will go with someone else rating.

* I hear ya dude. I like Witherspoon actually.....I think I'm the only one.

a87star · 07-02-2006, 01:05 PM

I like Chazz, also. Like Mark mentioned he does need to improve his defense and his hand speed. Does lack power but it doesn't mean you do not have chances in this mess of a HW division (re: Tony Thompson). The positives are his workrate and has great conditioning. He can be a player in the HW division but he definitely needs work.

06-28-2006, 08:57 PM	#22
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,772	I think he has a shot too though Guinn is on a winning streak. Thompson is a good combination puncher, he is 6'6", and has never been stopped. In addition, you have to have some skill to defeat Vaughn Bean. I'm glad that you mentioned that he is fighting tonight, I'm busy watching the NBA draft. MJ __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

06-29-2006, 12:22 AM	#24
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,772	* Tony Thompson * update #2 Tony Thompson HW Rating: weak 6 Isn't really a counter puncher. Works off the jab and has good ring gerneralship. __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/ Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 05:22 PM.

06-29-2006, 12:23 AM	#25
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,772	* Dominic Guinn * Dominic Guinn Rating: 4 Post-Prime __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/ Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 05:22 PM.

06-30-2006, 12:56 PM	#34
Rasmuth All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Upstate Western NY Posts: 1,760	anybody interested in actually posting the ratings...so losers like me...well...maybe just me, can use them in TBCB1? I know the upgrade is well worth it...but for now...I'm still TBCB1... __________________ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...?bandID=250426

07-02-2006, 02:02 AM	#35
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,772	Chazz Witherspoon HW Chazz Witherspoon (update) Rating: 4 * Lacks handspeed * Lacks Power * Gets hit * Is conditioned to go a hard 12 * Keeps busy * Throws lots of punches. __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/ Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 05:22 PM.

06-29-2006, 12:27 AM	#26
a87star Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 4,850	I agree on both ratings. That is what I would have given Thompson, also.

06-29-2006, 03:31 PM	#28
lethal liberal All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Logan,WV Posts: 1,144	Lets hope he is a helluva lot better than Timur. In general,people say he is the better prospect,still it makes you wary when you see a performance like Timur had against Brock.

06-29-2006, 03:34 PM	#29
lethal liberal All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Logan,WV Posts: 1,144	I gave Thompson a couple of 3 point jabs and crosses and improved his cf vs both boxers and sluggers. I think that he is a strong 5 with my improved rating. Mine is very close to yours Ice. I havent tweaked Guinn yet,but your 4 seems about right. I try not to re-rate after one showing,but when a guy stinks up the place as he did last night makes it hard not to lower everthing..lol.

06-29-2006, 03:37 PM	#30
lethal liberal All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Logan,WV Posts: 1,144	I think that the Trunzos could probably make a little money if they would rate a list of new fighters every 6 months or so. I would pay for the ratings. I know they are strapped for time and that Title Bout is the least of their concerns,but how long would it take to create a few new ratings a couple of times a year? I think most on here would gladly pay for their time. I am not bitching,because the guys have been very good to its base customers. I have always been pleased with the way I have been treated. I just think that would be a way for them to make a little extra money on the title bout game.

06-29-2006, 03:51 PM	#31
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I agree 100% ... now I know the boxrec ratings are a joke ... but every 6 months or so the should go through the top 50 lists and make about 100-200 new fighters and update 100-200 fighters and charge $5-$10 for it. I'd buy it each and every time. The problem would be finding a way to keep people who bought it from reposting the ratings.

07-02-2006, 10:33 AM	#36
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	probably a good rating, wasn't too impressed. Made Brock look good and that's not easy to do.

07-02-2006, 11:31 AM	#37
lethal liberal All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Logan,WV Posts: 1,144	Hey Rasmuth,I think Andreas is going to put the updated ratings in the online database pretty soon,you should be able to get them from there. Once I figure out who all was rerated in this new db..I would gladly post them for you.

07-02-2006, 11:37 AM	#38
lethal liberal All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Logan,WV Posts: 1,144	Ice,your ratings are very good,actually very close to my ratings. I didnt mean any disrespect,I wasnt implying that you rerate after each fight,I was just saying that sometimes I have to fight the urge to re rate fighters after one fight! LOL. Sometimes,when a guy is rated highly and he goes out and gets whacked in the first round,or just gets dominated for an entire fight,it is very hard not to go in and lower his ratings drastically. I have done that before and the guy bounces back with a huge upset or something..lol. I think you do a great job rating fighters. I always consider everyones rating when I am rating my own fighters. I like to compare,and if its a fighter that I am not real familiar with,I usually will go with someone else rating.

07-02-2006, 01:05 PM	#40
a87star Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 4,850	I like Chazz, also. Like Mark mentioned he does need to improve his defense and his hand speed. Does lack power but it doesn't mean you do not have chances in this mess of a HW division (re: Tony Thompson). The positives are his workrate and has great conditioning. He can be a player in the HW division but he definitely needs work.