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Old 01-22-2005, 03:01 PM   #261
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I've just been through all the Ring Ratings(as of 4th Nov 2004) and the only fighter that hasn't been rated in the game or subsequently in the forum is

Artyorm (Art) Simonyam Jr Featherweight Ranked 9

Maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel Conn/Chris
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Old 01-22-2005, 03:48 PM   #262
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Nice additions, thanks SAL!


ROBERT "Bobby" DOBBS LW

Birthplace - Cartersville, Georgia, USA

109(67)-36-32; 9 NC (Dobbs claimed to have fought over 1,000 bouts)

Bobby Dobbs began as a wrestler and boxer with a traveling health and fitness show while he was in his teens. He was known to be a popular draw on the boxing circuit and was described as quick, agile and clever. At 26, He fought for his first official title, the Massachusetts Middleweight Crown. Dick O'Brien won on a TKO in the 18th round of a bout that lasted one hour and nineteen minutes.

The two years following the Massachusetts title fight saw Bobby defeat Charley Johnson and a young Philadelphia Jack O'Brien as well as battle to a NC with Joe Walcott and a draw in a second bout with O'Brien. In 1897, the crowning moment of Dobbs career came as he defeated Joe Gans to claim the World Colored Lightweight Title. Although he never again fought for a major title, Dobbs had an impressive career, drawing with Charley Johnson and fighting well in losing battles with Gans, Walcott, Rube Ferns and Matty Matthews. In 1901, Dobbs and Young Peter Jackson staged a three bout series that saw Dobbs win the first and draw in the second two. The third bout between the two was held in Hot Springs, AR and was refereed by Bat Masterson of OK Coral fame.

While in his forties, Dobbs went on a brief tour of Europe facing mostly local talent but did battle in two 20 round losses to well-known European lightweights Waldemar Holberg and Dick Nelson. After retiring, Dobbs kept in the game by training other fighters.


Thanks Chris ... I was a little surprised Dobbs wasn't in the game already
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Old 01-22-2005, 03:53 PM   #263
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I've just been through all the Ring Ratings(as of 4th Nov 2004) and the only fighter that hasn't been rated in the game or subsequently in the forum is

Artyorm (Art) Simonyam Jr Featherweight Ranked 9

Maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel Conn/Chris
That is good news, although there are always going to be tens of thousands of boxers left to rate

I am really enjoying it, I never knew about Bobby Dobbs that mh mentions until he posted a picture and I dug into him.

(and I got the pic Tosti - thanks)
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Old 01-22-2005, 05:40 PM   #264
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GEORGE EAGEL WW

Hometown - Oakland, California, USA

13(10)-24-9; 4 NC

Eagel began his pro career at the tender age of 16 in the San Francisco Bay area. He won his first three pro bouts but quickly became an opponent and journeyman. Among those who honed their skills throwing punches at Mr. Eagel were Harry Collins, Travie Davis, Kid Lee, Tommy Uren, Sid Godfrey, Dave Shade and Tuffy Wing. Although he faced quite a few good boxers, there really aren't any good wins on Eagel's resume that you can point to. About the best that can be said of him is that he was well traveled; fighting on both American coasts and Australia. He did fight for the Orient Welterweight Title against Irineo Flores at the Olympia Stadium in Manila; the result was, of course, a loss for Eagel.
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Old 01-22-2005, 09:21 PM   #265
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HARRY DUDLEY WW

Hometown - Los Angeles, California, USA

24(3)-29-13; 9 NC

Dudley was a brawler, a runner, a clutcher, a dirty trick artist, a diver, whatever it took to avoid getting hit for a while. In one bout, Dudley and his opponent were repeatedly warned to box until the referee finally declared a no contest and handed their purses over to charity. Another of Dudley's bouts was stopped due to wresting and excessive holding. After fighting Dudley a second time, Travie Davis said "His ring tactics are the lowest of any boxer I have met", Davis vowed never to enter the ring with Dudley again.

Though they won't be clearing a spot for Mr Dudley at the boxing hall of fame, he did manage to win bouts over Tiger Johnny Cline, Travie Davis, Sailor Billy Vincent and Sergeant Sammy Baker as well as a draw with Oakland Jimmy Duffy. He was also stopped by Young Jack Thompson and Baker; lost on points to Willie Harmon and KO Roberts and had a No Contest bout with Joe Dundee.
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Old 01-23-2005, 12:10 AM   #266
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SPUG MYERS JWW

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Old 01-23-2005, 08:44 AM   #267
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JACK DOUGHERTY LW

Birthplace - Radford, Nottingham, England, UK

3(2)-11-4

It would be a tall order to find a boxer with 20 or fewer pro bouts that faced a more difficult line up than Jack Dougherty scheduled for himself. In a career that totaled only 18 bouts, Dougherty was out-pointed by Eddie McGoorty, Harry Lewis and Tordeo Billy Murphy. He was stopped by Jimmy Gardner, Twin Sullivan, Joe Walcott and Murphy; and fought to a draw with Honey Mellody, Gardner, and Murphy.
Jack didn't even allow himself a chance to make a running start, his first three bouts were against Murphy who already had over one hundred pro bouts under his belt when they met. Remarkably, Dougherty battled to a draw in their first meeting.
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DANIEL "The Haitian Sensation" EDOUARD MW

Birthplace - Haiti
Hometown - West Palm Beach, Florida, USA

16(9)-0-2 (through 08/27/04)

Edouard has moved up through the middleweight ranks rapidly while attending college in Florida. (He plans to graduate with a degree in communication in 2005). He won the WBA Fedecentro Middleweight Title in 2003 with a fifth round TKO over Ian Smith. In 2004, be fought to two ten round draws with Dorian Beaupierre in March and April. Then in November, Edouard won the USBA Title with a fourth round TKO over formerly unbeaten Willie Gibbs. At 25, the future is bright for this Haitian middleweight.
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ED DENFASS MW

Hometown - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

23(7)-8-3; 4 NC

Denfass was in the ring for six years and fought six rounders almost exclusively. He did however face a number of top Middle and Light-heavyweights of the day. Early on, Denfass scored victories over Tommy Cleary, Charley Johnson, Owen Ziegler and Billy Stift as well as a draw with Klondike Haines. Ed dropped bouts to Jack Root, Philadelphia Jack O'Brien, Jack Williams and three to George Cole. He was stopped twice in 34 pro bouts and only had two bouts scheduled for more than six rounds, one ended in a 10 round victory on points over Bob Long, the other saw the inexperienced Teddy McMahon knock Denfass out in the first.
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TOM BRODERICK LW

Hometown - Yonkers, New York, USA

9(5)-11-3

Broderick dropped bouts to Kid McPartland, Cub White, Matty Matthews and Joe Gans. The only good win on his resume was a sixth round TKO over Mike Leonard. When in trouble, Broderick was not adverse to using illegal methods in the ring.
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STEVE BRODIE MW

Hometown - San Francisco, California, USA (also lived in Seattle, Washington)

11(5)-5-1; 1 NC

Brodie fought mainly local stiffs on the US West Coast. His only bout against a name fighter was a decision loss to Pete Cerkan in what was the final fight of his pro career.
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GILBERT CASTILLO FW

Hometown - Havana, Cuba

17(5)-11-2

Castillo was the Cuban Featherweight Champion from July, 1934 to March, 1935. He fought in and around Havana on either side a multiple year swing through Miami and elsewhere on the US East Coast. While in the US, Castillo notched a 12-4-2 record.
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MARTY CROSS WW

Hometown - New York, New York, USA

26(13)-25-7; 2 NC

Cross was a tough journeyman that faced some of the best welterweights (not to mention middles and light-heavies) of his day and held his own. Though his record is not a stellar one, his single career stoppage loss is testament to his chin given the level of competition that he faced. Marty defeated Johnny Howard and Frank Loughrey on points; stopped the Zulu Kid and Albert Badoud; he also drew with Bryan Downey and Badoud. Cross took decision losses to Downey, Lou Bogash, K.O. Loughlin, Soldier Bartfield, Jimmy Jones, Panama Joe Gans, Oakland Jimmy Duffy, Jack Britton and Ted Krache. His lone KO loss came late in his pro career against Nate Siegal. Marty was a tough customer, he just ended up on the wrong side of too many decisions.
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RENE WELLER LW

Hometown - Pforzheim, Germany

52(24)-1-2

Rene held the German LW Title and the EBU LW Title.
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DONNEL WADE SMW

Hometown - New Mexico

2(0)-1-1

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PHIL CROSS LW

Hometown - New York, New York, USA

28(4)-6-6

Save two trips to Philadelphia and one to New Orleans, Cross fought his entire four year career in New York. He feasted on soft competition but fared rather well with the several name boxers that he faced. He scored wins over Paddy Sullivan, Phil Loughrey and Young Hickey. Cross and Young Erne had a six rounder declared a no decision but Cross won the newspaper decision. Kid Alberts handed Cross two losses at the end of his brief career, one of which was the only stoppage loss he suffered in the ring.
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I've missplaced my snapshot of Rene Weller - could someone repost it or point me in the right direction?

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Old 01-23-2005, 09:15 PM   #278
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LITTLE DEMPSEY (Robert Hilado) FW

Born - Philippines

12(0)-20-6; 1 NC

Little Dempsey fought as a pro for 13 years on the US West Coast and Hawaii. Other than a draw with Al Spina and a DQ win over Abie Israel, he had few resume builders in his career. He dropped bouts to Fidel LaBarba, Freddie Miller, Tommy Paul, Spina and Harold Hoshino. He suffered 6 stoppage losses during his career but did climb off the canvas (a six count) to defeat Frankie Gallucci in ten rounds.
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FRANK FIELDS MW

Hometown - Oxnard, California, USA

29(20)-10-14; 2 NC

Fields fought in California, mainly beating up on stiffs (one opponent was reposted to be an "off the street" replacement for a no-show). He drew with Willie Meehan and beat Fighting Bill Murray, although Murray defeated Fields on two other occasions. His one title shot (a chance at the Pacific Coast Welter Belt) ended in a 20 round draw with Mike McClure. Fields was stopped five times over a 55 bout career. However, he did fight a lot of soft competition and two of those stoppages came at the hands of very inexperienced boxers.
He appears to have had a pretty rough crowd in his corner. In his bout with Jack Walsh (who was debuting), both fighters landed low blows with Fields being disqualified. Field's corner men jumped the ropes and kicked Walsh into unconsciousness.
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