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04-15-2016, 09:55 PM | #1 |
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Worst Team Ever
I am playing with the 1988 Chicago Cubs and near the midpoint of the season, our team record is 18-51 (.261). The bullpen is atrocious (7.13 ERA) and it seems as if I hardly ever have a 1-2-3-inning when I bring in a reliever. I have played OOTP for several years and this has to be the worst team I have ever played with. Granted, the 1988 Cubs were not a good team in real life, but this is absolutely terrible.
I was wondering what other people's worst single season performances are with a team? Obviously, the club morale and team chemistry is embarrassing. I have fired the pitching coach, traded for pitching, promoted/demoted players and nothing seems to work. This team stinks. Last edited by hillm2ca; 04-15-2016 at 09:57 PM. |
04-15-2016, 10:12 PM | #2 |
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Great post! I had a couple of chuckles while reading this. I can vaguely remember catching those 1988 Cubs on TV on lazy afternoons that summer after my high school graduation. But man, 18-51? I bet Harry Caray sounds downright morbid on those TV broadcasts.
One question: The "Batting Leaders" column has Rob Deer with 6 HRs and less than 24 RBIs (he's not listed in RBIs) but on the right side where the lineup is shown, he has 14 HRs and a team-leading 34 RBIs. Is this because you picked him up from Milwaukee? I admire your patience and commitment to this 1988 Cubs project. I wonder how you find the desire to keep plowing forward. Great post! |
04-15-2016, 10:19 PM | #3 |
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I did acquire Rob Deer in a trade with the Brewers in exchange for Rafael Palmeiro to (1) please the owner who wanted a power hitter, and (2) free up a spot for Mark Grace at first. So, yeah, he has 6 HR as a Cub but 14 overall.
Thanks for the response - I must be patient indeed! Thank goodness Harry loved Budweiser; he'd need quite a few to call the games for this team. |
04-15-2016, 10:34 PM | #4 |
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This won't cheer you up any .... the real-life 1988 Cubs were 36-33 after 69 games and they finished within sight of .500 (77-85). So ... maybe it will get better?
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04-15-2016, 10:46 PM | #5 |
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Yeah, I guess there is a long way to go and maybe things will become a little more promising. I cannot image the 1988 Cubs maintaining such a dismal pace throughout the year but who knows On a side note, the Phillies have a team batting average of .199 and have a better record than the Cubbies because of their pitching. What a weird sim!
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04-16-2016, 11:52 AM | #6 |
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04-16-2016, 04:12 PM | #7 |
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I think you can catch the Phillies. Forget about .500. If your not playing single season I'd say let the bench warmers play. Can't do any worse.
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04-16-2016, 05:58 PM | #8 |
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Agree - .500 is an impossibility at this point and I will definitely give some guys playing time that otherwise would not get much of it - Hector Villaneuva, Gary Varsho, Darrin Jackson, etc. I'm hoping for at least a 50 win season, but who knows with these guys.
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04-16-2016, 10:01 PM | #9 |
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Just curious, are you playing each game out? I started a league once not knowing the 'warmup pitcher option' was turned on. It drove me nuts until I finally figured it out. My Bullpen pitchers didn't stand a chance.
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04-17-2016, 10:01 AM | #10 | |
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The Phillies, on the other hand, have improved their team batting average to .207 so I imagine things will start to balance out a little more going forward. |
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04-19-2016, 03:13 PM | #11 |
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I'm going into my 4th year of sim, started as the Expos in 1969 went:
1969: 42-120 1970: 49-113 1971: 57-105 My entire pitching staff is BRUTAL, but especially my bullpen, my staff low is 5.26, bullpen has never been under 6. Though I think I finally have a decent pair of relievers to close out games. I usually play out the games but it's been way to frustrating so I've summed 95% lately. Hopefully I will be back to playing in 1972 as draft picks like Rick Rescheul, George Brett and Dave Kingman help out |
05-10-2016, 10:39 PM | #12 |
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Dang, that is pretty brutal! I gave up on the Cubs franchise and started a new game with the 1981 Detroit Tigers and, even though we are below .500 for the year coming up the halfway point of the season, it's a bearable mediocrity that I can deal with.
I always thought an Expos franchise starting in 1969 would be interesting and something I might try out in the future. |
05-19-2016, 11:21 PM | #13 |
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Those early brutal seasons are paying off now. Last 3 seasons:
1974 86-76 1975 89-73 1976 89-73 Unfortunately the Mets pitching staff was too much for me. They won their 4th & 5th straight NL East titles in 74-75. In 76 the Phillies got lucky and won 13 more games than expected to win the division. My 1977 team is 17-7 so far but are a 1/2 back of the Cardinals. Starting to feel like the real life Expos, no matter how good they are someone is always a little better. |
07-14-2016, 12:01 PM | #14 |
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Have any of you had any problems with OOTP 17 and the draft?
I started a league in 1969, and players that are drafted for example Rich Reuschel was drafted in 1969 by the Oakland A's, signed a contract - and the next year he was not traded or released and signed with the St. Louis Cardinals. Same thing happened to George Brett - he was drafted by the helpless Expos, and the very next year he was on the White Sox. Do I have setting off or something? I used the basic default settings. |
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I have seen similar issues elsewhere so I am not sure what is going on. |
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08-04-2016, 10:04 AM | #17 |
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I have never noticed it before either! But, I believe there is a problem with the reserve clause era - draft process. Those players were not released. They were drafted played for the team that drafted them for one year, then signed somewhere else - they were not released, waived, or traded ---- this is not right, and has not been addressed yet!
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