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Old 12-14-2019, 04:35 PM   #61
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I, for one, would be interested to hear about your experiences
Yugoslavia and that's it on the matter, you also asked someone about risking your life for $30m, there are millions of people who risk their lives everyday for a whole lot less. Anyway I think the discussion as run its course, on my part it as.
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Old 12-14-2019, 04:38 PM   #62
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Anyway back to baseball, I wish it was baseball season, dont get me wrong I love the NFL but rather it was warm outside
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Old 12-14-2019, 05:00 PM   #63
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Yugoslavia and that's it on the matter
Not something you want to talk about? Why? Pretty horrific?

Maybe that's why it's distasteful to joke about it

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you also asked someone about risking your life for $30m, there are millions of people who risk their lives everyday for a whole lot less.
Uhh...yeah, I mentioned that.

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I don't know anything about your current situation, but I'd imagine, since you're taking the time to post on a website about a computer baseball game that you're at least semi-comfortable in your life. Probably not starving to death, or anything.

There are millions of people in Syria (and numerous other places around the world) who'd change places with you in a heartbeat. And not to receive tens of millions of dollars but who'd pay everything they have to be in your situation. Parents who'd sacrifice their own lives so their children could sit where you sit while you talk about how you'd go to Syria for $30 million dollars.
That makes your joke all the more distasteful.
People risk their lives to have what you have - not because you have so much, but because they have so little.
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Old 12-14-2019, 05:00 PM   #64
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This makes me think. I'm used to saying "After a while, what are the extra millions for?" All of us here cannot even imagine what it would be like to make even $1.5 million a year, let alone $15 million, let alone $30 million. Yet, we have player agents scrounging for an extra few mils a year and an extra few years, to boot. What do they spend their money on?

The thought that I just had, and that somebody mentioned here or someplace else: legacy. Of two forms: lots of money to leave to your heirs and be remembered by, and the ego gratification of being a multi, multi-millionaire while you're alive.

It really is insanity, regardless.



I linked this in some thread on this forum recently, but it applies here too...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xcYLVdfFro


a lack of needing more isn't the same as a lack of wanting more ... sometimes it's just greed (which I suppose is at least close to the ego reason)


and to be fair, there are obviously tons of other reasons too (leaving it to family as you said, the validation for a lifetime of work and effort to be named the highest paid at your profession, the desire to build capital to start a business afterward, maybe some want to be like Jordan and Jeter and try to be a team owner after they retire, etc)

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Old 12-14-2019, 06:03 PM   #65
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Not something you want to talk about? Why? Pretty horrific?

Maybe that's why it's distasteful to joke about it


Uhh...yeah, I mentioned that.


That makes your joke all the more distasteful.
People risk their lives to have what you have - not because you have so much, but because they have so little.
Most jokes are distasteful as most jokes mock people, Edinburgh comedy festival is one of the most famous in the world, the joke they awarded best joke mocked people with turrets. Also seems like your after an argument as your repeating yourself, sorry picked the wrong person, an argument on a forum is so far down my list it's not on my list so I'll let you have the win and the last word.
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Old 12-14-2019, 07:16 PM   #66
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Most jokes are distasteful as most jokes mock people, Edinburgh comedy festival is one of the most famous in the world, the joke they awarded best joke mocked people with turrets. Also seems like your after an argument as your repeating yourself, sorry picked the wrong person, an argument on a forum is so far down my list it's not on my list so I'll let you have the win and the last word.
Yeh, stop distracting my agent!
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Old 12-14-2019, 07:28 PM   #67
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inv...substance-list

I know this isn't a new story but havent seen it mentioned, I take CBD regular and smoked weed rarely. Did they have no other option seeing it's legal in Utah if I'm right.
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I would just like to point out the "ignore" feature. In case anybody is interested.......
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:03 PM   #69
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I would just like to point out the "ignore" feature. In case anybody is interested.......
I've never used the ignore button on anything, I figure everyone as a right to say what's on their mind if I agree with them or not. However some may have used it on me now and again
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To try to get discussion on Major League Baseball 2020 again --- talk top 2 player contracts on each Major League team **** and I will list a few .....

Stanton (26 m) and Cole (36 m) - Yankees = 62 M
Strasburg and Scherzer - Nationals = 70.9 M
Price and Sales - Red Sox = 62 M
Kershaw and Turner - Dodgers = 51 M
Trout and Pujois - Angels = 65.8 M
Cespedes and deGrom - Mets 54.5 M and they are paying 12 M to David Wright

So pick your TOP pay two ...
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Cubs young talent just hitting arbitration and big contracts - BUT

Heyward and Darvish - Cubs 43 M

add Lester @ 20 M and Bryant @ 18.5 M (est.)
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:25 PM   #72
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A's have Davis (16.75 M) and Piscotty ( 7.33 M ) at 24.08 M

And last I heard they were trying to trade Davis ..
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:26 PM   #73
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To try to get discussion on Major League Baseball 2020 again --- talk top 2 player contracts on each Major League team **** and I will list a few .....

Stanton (26 m) and Cole (36 m) - Yankees = 62 M
Strasburg and Scherzer - Nationals = 70.9 M
Price and Sales - Red Sox = 62 M
Kershaw and Turner - Dodgers = 51 M
Trout and Pujois - Angels = 65.8 M
Cespedes and deGrom - Mets 54.5 M and they are paying 12 M to David Wright

So pick your TOP pay two ...
Went with something that interested me.

Jonathan Villar &
Miguel Rojas Miami Marlins both being paid $10m according to spotrac way less than Stanton or Cole infact Cole is being paid more than the top 7 Marlins combined.
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Revenue Sharing from National Media and some local per team ......

In Major League Baseball, 48% of local revenues are subject to revenue sharing and are distributed equally among all 30 teams, with each team receiving 3.3% of the total sum generated. As a result, in 2018, each team received $118 million from this pot. Teams also receive a share of national revenues, which were estimated to be $91 million per team, also in 2018.
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Most jokes are distasteful as most jokes mock people, Edinburgh comedy festival is one of the most famous in the world, the joke they awarded best joke mocked people with turrets.
I don't know that your premise is correct
Here are the top ten jokes from the Edenburgh festival
https://www.nme.com/news/10-funniest...stival-2539446
I wouldn't say that most are mocking anything.


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Also seems like your after an argument as your repeating yourself, sorry picked the wrong person, an argument on a forum is so far down my list it's not on my list so I'll let you have the win and the last word.
Arguing does nothing
Discussing is much more useful endeavor
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Old 12-15-2019, 02:55 PM   #76
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Last year they said MLB owners/teams were in league to lower salaries by not signing players early, this season big contracts have been signed early just wondering what peoples takes on it was. Personally I think it was rubbish about owners trying to get players on the cheap.
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Cleveland and Texas make a swap
Cleveland gives up Corey Cluber
Texas gives up DeShields jr and Clase

Clase is a super hard throwing reliever. DeShields is a fast OFer who has never hit.

It's much less of a return for Kluber than would have been expected before his injury.

And a light return for what even a 50% Kluber would be expected to produce going forward
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Old 12-16-2019, 10:32 AM   #78
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What is Arizona trying to do down there? I feel as though they don't have an idea. They don't want to give up but don't know if they should go for it.
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Went with something that interested me.

Jonathan Villar &
Miguel Rojas Miami Marlins both being paid $10m according to spotrac way less than Stanton or Cole infact Cole is being paid more than the top 7 Marlins combined.
Stanton was signed by Marlins -- Yankees did the bailout in trading for him but did part with Castro , who is a free agent this year

Marlins still have 1 year of Wei-Yin Chen from the previous owner group at $22 million

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I get the yankees have close to infinite money but they will be regretting this hard in a couple years
Yes, but CBeisbol made a good point, here or someplace else, that the deal can be viewed as initial success, hopefully years of it, being amortized over the life of the contract.

In other words, say Cole helps them win a championship or two, or at least get close to it, in the next few years. The Yankees are paying for that not only in those years but in the remaining years of Cole's decline.

Thus you cannot just look at the final couple of years of the contract and say "what a waste." The Yankees themselves may be viewing it in this manner.
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