The Standings?

Orioles1966 · 01-07-2013, 04:59 PM

I remember the day when you had W-L-T-PTs-GF-GA. Nowadays you get a point if you show up for a game. How many different variations will we have of the Standings?

phantompenguin · 01-07-2013, 05:09 PM

Will changing the point system be possible?

I really want to go with a 3-2-1-0 system with 3 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an OT/SO win, 1 point for an OT/SO loss, and 0 points for a regulation loss.

Orioles1966 · 01-07-2013, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by phantompenguin

Will changing the point system be possible?

I really want to go with a 3-2-1-0 system with 3 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an OT/SO win, 1 point for an OT/SO loss, and 0 points for a regulation loss.

Thats how I would go-only if there must be the 1 point for OT/SO loss.

I never understood why the NHL loves the three point overtime game. Makes it next too impossible for teams to gain in the standings late in the season because teams go into defensive shells and actually want to play overtime instead of trying too win in regulation. If the NHL gave 3 points for regulation win-it would change the game drastically.

Sebastian Palkowski · 01-07-2013, 06:37 PM

Maybe I should make a screenshot of one of the rule screens.

Orioles1966 · 01-07-2013, 06:50 PM

Especially the rule that forbids the Toronto Maple Leafs from having Stanley Cup Victory parades.

RchW · 01-07-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1966

Especially the rule that forbids the Toronto Maple Leafs from having Stanley Cup Victory parades.

That's not a rule but a physical law of the universe.

Orioles1966 · 01-07-2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

That's not a rule but a physical law of the universe.

When the NHL came up with the one point for an OT loss or Shootout loss (which they stole from the AHL)they had the Maple Leafs in mind. Still hasn't helped them too make the playoffs.

Le Grande Orange · 01-07-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by phantompenguin

I really want to go with a 3-2-1-0 system with 3 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an OT/SO win, 1 point for an OT/SO loss, and 0 points for a regulation loss.

I never understand why a team should be rewarded for losing. I'd assign points this way: 3 points for a regulation win; 2 points for an overtime win; and 1 point for a shootout win. Losing gets a club 0 points no matter if it lost in regulation, overtime,or the shootout.

If you really wanted to emphasize scoring and offence, a bonus point system for goals scored during a game similar to what the old NASL used to use might be worth considering.

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Originally Posted by Orioles1966

If the NHL gave 3 points for regulation win-it would change the game drastically.

Much the same was said when soccer (football elsewhere in the world) changed from two points for a win to three points for a win. There didn't end up being much difference in play.

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Originally Posted by Orioles1966

Especially the rule that forbids the Toronto Maple Leafs from having Stanley Cup Victory parades.

Harold Ballard had it figured out decades ago: you can pretty much throw any turkey onto the ice and Toronto hockey fans will pay money to watch it. Sure, they may complain a lot about it, but in the end they keep ponying up their dough.

The best thing that ever happened to the Maple Leafs franchise from a business point of view was the salary cap: it immediately boosted the club's profits by a considerable amount since expenses were artificially constrained. Is it just coincidence that in the seven years the salary cap has been in place the Leafs have missed the playoffs every year? I'm not so sure.

Orioles1966 · 01-07-2013, 07:29 PM

The reason they award a point for losing in OT or shootout is too keep the crappy teams(see Toronto Maple Leafs) in the playoff hunt. Toronto would be eliminated from the playoffs in January every season if it weren't for that gift point.

Le Grande Orange · 01-07-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1966

The reason they award a point for losing in OT or shootout is too keep the crappy teams(see Toronto Maple Leafs) in the playoff hunt. Toronto would be eliminated from the playoffs in January every season if it weren't for that gift point.

The easier way is to just expand the playoffs. (That may well also help the less well off clubs since playoff money is a big part of the NHL's revenue.) There's nothing magical about the sixteen team figure that's been in use since 1979-80.

Really, as it stands now the NHL is on the low side, historically speaking, in terms of the percentage of teams qualifying for the post-season. The "original six" years saw four out of the six clubs making the playoffs—67%. That'd translate into 20 out of the current 30 teams. Heck, from the 1979-80 through 1990-91 seasons it was 16 out of 21 teams making the playoffs—76%. That'd translate into 22-23 teams out of the current 30.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the playoffs expanded at some point during the next couple of years. (The NHL has traditionally always led the 'big four' sports leagues when it comes to percentage of clubs qualifying for the post-season.)

dave1927p · 01-07-2013, 09:31 PM

A screenshot of the rule screen would be great!

Also seeing as how this is titled Standings i will ask this here. Will we be able to view the standings in conferences by default as opposed to division? I really dislike how ootp forces you to view by divisions all the time. It would be nice it the user had a setting to change the default view so it would save us a click each time we go to the standings.

tcblcommish · 01-07-2013, 10:10 PM

The more screens the better!!!!

Djungelurban · 01-07-2013, 10:51 PM

I suggest we have a topic called "The Daily Screenshot"... With a new screenshot... Daily...

geckon · 01-07-2013, 10:59 PM

I'd love to see as many screenshots as possible but we have to let developers work too if we want to see the game released.

jayze302 · 01-07-2013, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1966

The reason they award a point for losing in OT or shootout is too keep the crappy teams(see Toronto Maple Leafs) in the playoff hunt. Toronto would be eliminated from the playoffs in January every season if it weren't for that gift point.

My beloved Panthers lost their way to a Division Title this way last year

Sebastian Palkowski · 01-08-2013, 08:29 PM

It is one of the league-edit screens (the one with the points).

I had to remove the Upper Area because I used archibalduk's great logo pack, it's 2:30 AM here in Germany and I had no desire to start a new game with fictional logos for the screenshot.

dave1927p · 01-08-2013, 08:34 PM

HAHA! Talk about realism, with Leaf clause disabled by default.

Is free agency eligibility age / years of service editable?

Finally are we able to change when teams lose the rights to prospects? I would like to change that the NHL teams keeps rights to all european players drafted until the team chooses to release the rights (similar to how it used to be). I want to keep my russian players in the KHL until they around age of 24 then sign them. I really hope this will be possible.

Empach · 01-08-2013, 08:47 PM

Having never played OOTP I am very impressed.

And there's seriously a Toronto clause?

geckon · 01-08-2013, 09:00 PM

LOL Toronto clause

What league uses such playoff rules and has Toronto unable to win at the same time?

CeeBee · 01-08-2013, 09:24 PM

OMG!!!!! I can get rid of the *&@* shootout even

Sweeeeet!

01-07-2013, 04:59 PM	#1
Orioles1966 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,869	The Standings? I remember the day when you had W-L-T-PTs-GF-GA. Nowadays you get a point if you show up for a game. How many different variations will we have of the Standings?

01-07-2013, 06:37 PM	#4
Sebastian Palkowski Developer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 5,119	Maybe I should make a screenshot of one of the rule screens. __________________ Buy Franchise Hockey Manager 10

01-07-2013, 07:29 PM	#9
Orioles1966 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,869	The reason they award a point for losing in OT or shootout is too keep the crappy teams(see Toronto Maple Leafs) in the playoff hunt. Toronto would be eliminated from the playoffs in January every season if it weren't for that gift point. Last edited by Orioles1966; 01-07-2013 at 07:30 PM.

01-07-2013, 09:31 PM	#11
dave1927p FHM Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brantford, ON Posts: 2,888	A screenshot of the rule screen would be great! Also seeing as how this is titled Standings i will ask this here. Will we be able to view the standings in conferences by default as opposed to division? I really dislike how ootp forces you to view by divisions all the time. It would be nice it the user had a setting to change the default view so it would save us a click each time we go to the standings. __________________ IN 1964 THE LEAFS WON THE STANLEY CUP :: IT'S ALSO THE YEAR THE CANADIAN FLAG WAS DESIGNED...coincidence? Last edited by dave1927p; 01-07-2013 at 09:36 PM.

01-08-2013, 08:29 PM	#16
Sebastian Palkowski Developer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 5,119	It is one of the league-edit screens (the one with the points). I had to remove the Upper Area because I used archibalduk's great logo pack, it's 2:30 AM here in Germany and I had no desire to start a new game with fictional logos for the screenshot. __________________ Buy Franchise Hockey Manager 10

01-07-2013, 05:09 PM	#2
phantompenguin Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 58	Will changing the point system be possible? I really want to go with a 3-2-1-0 system with 3 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an OT/SO win, 1 point for an OT/SO loss, and 0 points for a regulation loss.

01-07-2013, 06:50 PM	#5
Orioles1966 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,869	Especially the rule that forbids the Toronto Maple Leafs from having Stanley Cup Victory parades.

01-07-2013, 10:10 PM	#12
tcblcommish Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 3,435	The more screens the better!!!!

01-07-2013, 10:51 PM	#13
Djungelurban Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 20	I suggest we have a topic called "The Daily Screenshot"... With a new screenshot... Daily...

01-07-2013, 10:59 PM	#14
geckon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 2,077	I'd love to see as many screenshots as possible but we have to let developers work too if we want to see the game released.

01-08-2013, 08:34 PM	#17
dave1927p FHM Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brantford, ON Posts: 2,888	HAHA! Talk about realism, with Leaf clause disabled by default. Is free agency eligibility age / years of service editable? Finally are we able to change when teams lose the rights to prospects? I would like to change that the NHL teams keeps rights to all european players drafted until the team chooses to release the rights (similar to how it used to be). I want to keep my russian players in the KHL until they around age of 24 then sign them. I really hope this will be possible. __________________ IN 1964 THE LEAFS WON THE STANLEY CUP :: IT'S ALSO THE YEAR THE CANADIAN FLAG WAS DESIGNED...coincidence? Last edited by dave1927p; 01-08-2013 at 09:00 PM.

01-08-2013, 08:47 PM	#18
Empach Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 125	Having never played OOTP I am very impressed. And there's seriously a Toronto clause?

01-08-2013, 09:00 PM	#19
geckon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 2,077	LOL Toronto clause What league uses such playoff rules and has Toronto unable to win at the same time?

01-08-2013, 09:24 PM	#20
CeeBee Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chase BC Canada Posts: 105	OMG!!!!! I can get rid of the &@ shootout even Sweeeeet!