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11-07-2019, 01:14 PM | #61 |
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Strike zone is 3 dimensional. The width and depth are determined by home plate. The height is determined by the batter. If the ball touches any part of that box, it is a strike. The depth has nothing to do with how far forward or back in the batters box the batter stands. The pitcher can throw a big lob pitch that is outside the strike zone at the front of the plate but if it enters that box sometime before the ball passes the back of home plate, it is a strike. Is it is in the strike zone as it passes the front of home plate and then drops down on home plate, it is a strike. If at any point they ball touches the 3 dimensional strike zone, it is a strike.
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11-07-2019, 01:26 PM | #62 |
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The naive side of me wants to believe that MLBPA would be eager to adopt this in order to improve their performances, one way or the other. The cynical side of me sees what you are saying and agrees.
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I'm just curious: How does the current technology - be it robo umps in the Atlantic league or the superimposed grids that tv uses to let us know what's a strike and what's a ball (regardless of the actual call) - determine the top and bottom of the strike zone? The width of the strike zone isn't subjective at all - the ball is either over the plate or it's not, regardless of the batter. But "between the knees and midpoint of the torso" not only changes from batter to batter, but it also changes as the batter adjusts his stance during the pitch, and, while "the knees" is sorta specific, isn't "midpoint of the torso" kinda nebulous?
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11-08-2019, 07:26 AM | #67 |
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The rule book says it is the area directly above home plate. Where the batter stands has nothing to do with it. The height of the strike zone is determined by the batter’s stance.
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I'd guess baseball is similar.
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11-08-2019, 09:59 AM | #69 |
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All of which makes me wonder how an AI strike zone works in reality.
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I am against the Tech the Robo Umpire just invites cheating to give media something more to talk about ....
The replays have brought too much tech into the game and slowed the game down.
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01-22-2020, 04:35 PM | #74 |
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If the tech is clean and transparent, in any game, I don't mind it. Goal line technology in soccer and the tennis system of tracking the lines comes to mind. If the strike calls are quick and correct, then it should fall into the same category.
On the other hand, I have never liked the use of replay to re-referee plays. I recognize that they correct some calls, but they also screw up calls, seemingly in about equal measure (I will admit that there may be confirmation bias, on my part, involved here.) Replay also disrupts the flow of the game, creates artificial momentum changes, and has encouraged refs to go away calling what they see, which I consider the golden rule of officiating.
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I've heard from players forever that all they want is consistency and then they can adjust appropriately. A computer calling balls and strikes is consistent. Doesn't really seem like a big change to me. They could have introduced it without telling anyone and fans wouldn't have noticed.
Replay generally seems to cause more controversy than it solves because sports aren't meant to be officiated from ten different angles in 4K slow-mo. Offsides calls in soccer that no one asked for before are suddenly being made because of armpit alignment. Catches in football getting overturned from ball movement you needed a microscope to detect. A player slides over second base and there is a millisecond where he might not have been in contact with it. And the worst of all IMO, a basketball player gets the ball simply knocked out of his hands and now there's an investigation to see if there could have been a fraction of a second in which it was rolling off his fingers after the defender moved his hand back. |
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There is also the fact that "letting it play out" and "indisputable evidence to overturn" are at odds with each other.
If there might have been a fumble most people say that you should let it play out, see who recovers, then replay can always go back and rule the runner was down. But the process also says the default is to stick with the original call, so now there is a higher standard of proof for "no fumble" even if the refs best judgment during the play is that is what most likely happened. Other sports are obviously similar. |
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If the ref sees it as an incomplete, but it may be an interception, let it play on, but then make the call on the play an incomplete, which then can be reviewed.
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