Perfect Team World Series Week! - Page 2

Hertston · 10-25-2019, 06:22 AM

Collect and 'win'? Seriously? Win what? There's no reward even vaguely comparable to the effort of getting it any more. I managed to 'win' a standard pack from one of the new missions this week with minimal PP cost, but that was only because I saw it within minutes of it coming up before the usual speculators bought up every copy of the cards in circulation. I was already too late for the next one. Anything else, if the reward comes even close to matching the real value of the cards, resale or auction, none are ever available at all. And even if you manage to navigate all THAT, you realise your card reward had actually ceased to be of any practical use to you at least three 'seasons' ago. The whole system is, and will remain, a futile exercise until this virtual trading card game actually incorporates a way to trade them for each other, as opposed to selling them (less the 10%, totally unjustifiable, 'cut', of course).

You can't even 'collect' just out of interest. I'd love to do the 'Moneyball' one as spare PP presents itself, for example, but in three months I've barely seen half a dozen cards (including duplicates), all of which had bloody stupid prices attached to them. Listen up kiddies, if you want to get rid of those cards you are holding on to. Many people, including myself, are probably happy to pay well over the odds for sub-diamond cards if they only need one or two to complete the set.. but NOBODY is if none of the others, including all the iron and bronze, are even available!

My advice, until the broken gets fixed, forget the collecting and, ahem.. 'winning' and just save your points (which accumulate rather quicker than it first appears). Use the auctions with a little common sense, and you'll build up your team(s) in no time. Well, not that much time, anyway.

dkgo · 10-25-2019, 07:43 PM

that take is completely off base. Ive made close to a million pp in surplus value from doing the big team collections from scratch without any prior investing. All the teams left I prepared most of the pieces already, the cardinals especially should be very rewarding. Obviously dont buy now when demand is at its highest.

trading is stupid and the 10% tax is a necessity, you clearly have no experience within this genre of game

Dogberry99 · 10-25-2019, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

that take is completely off base. Ive made close to a million pp in surplus value from doing the big team collections from scratch without any prior investing. All the teams left I prepared most of the pieces already, the cardinals especially should be very rewarding. Obviously dont buy now when demand is at its highest.

trading is stupid and the 10% tax is a necessity, you clearly have no experience within this genre of game

While I personally agree that their take is off base, it merits at least a passing discussion because it is not unique. Their complaint is basically broken up into two parts: 1) cards are too expensive, and 2) cards aren't available for sale.

Point 1 already had a dedicated thread ( https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=304693 ) that is on its 12th page. Its been a minute or too since its been bumped, but it has been an extremely long lived thread. Plenty of people have lamented the conduct of the market speculators, and many others have proposed rules to limit their activity. This is not new.

As far as point 2 goes, this is a point that is expressed (albeit in a far more positive and constructive manner usually) on these forums quite regularly. One such example is https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=307696 who is specifically looking for ways to increase the volume of historic cards in circulation. Here ( https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=307669 ) is another recent example of someone concerned about players hoarding cards.

Hertston is expressing views that are commonly represented in this community. The content is not off base.

However, the anger and vitriol in their comments is completely unwarranted and is the reason why their argument will be ignored. They ruined any chance at being taken seriously by being combative instead of constructive. Their argument actually did more to hurt their position than advance it.

dkgo · 10-25-2019, 09:49 PM

Im all for putting more cards into circulation. Ive been a big proponent of converting lots of rewards from pp to packs. ultimate team does that pretty well.

QuantaCondor · 10-26-2019, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

Im all for putting more cards into circulation. Ive been a big proponent of converting lots of rewards from pp to packs. ultimate team does that pretty well.

I think the dev team has definitely been too shy in this area. Why not have a big set reward come with 10 packs in the topper? It's good for the economy and fun for the players.

One Great Matrix · 11-04-2019, 04:50 AM

Jackson's card wants glasses.

10-25-2019, 06:22 AM	#21
Hertston Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 327	Collect and 'win'? Seriously? Win what? There's no reward even vaguely comparable to the effort of getting it any more. I managed to 'win' a standard pack from one of the new missions this week with minimal PP cost, but that was only because I saw it within minutes of it coming up before the usual speculators bought up every copy of the cards in circulation. I was already too late for the next one. Anything else, if the reward comes even close to matching the real value of the cards, resale or auction, none are ever available at all. And even if you manage to navigate all THAT, you realise your card reward had actually ceased to be of any practical use to you at least three 'seasons' ago. The whole system is, and will remain, a futile exercise until this virtual trading card game actually incorporates a way to trade them for each other, as opposed to selling them (less the 10%, totally unjustifiable, 'cut', of course). You can't even 'collect' just out of interest. I'd love to do the 'Moneyball' one as spare PP presents itself, for example, but in three months I've barely seen half a dozen cards (including duplicates), all of which had bloody stupid prices attached to them. Listen up kiddies, if you want to get rid of those cards you are holding on to. Many people, including myself, are probably happy to pay well over the odds for sub-diamond cards if they only need one or two to complete the set.. but NOBODY is if none of the others, including all the iron and bronze, are even available! My advice, until the broken gets fixed, forget the collecting and, ahem.. 'winning' and just save your points (which accumulate rather quicker than it first appears). Use the auctions with a little common sense, and you'll build up your team(s) in no time. Well, not that much time, anyway. __________________ Ballymahon Bassets (FTP) Last edited by Hertston; 10-25-2019 at 06:32 AM.

10-25-2019, 07:43 PM	#22
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	that take is completely off base. Ive made close to a million pp in surplus value from doing the big team collections from scratch without any prior investing. All the teams left I prepared most of the pieces already, the cardinals especially should be very rewarding. Obviously dont buy now when demand is at its highest. trading is stupid and the 10% tax is a necessity, you clearly have no experience within this genre of game Last edited by dkgo; 10-25-2019 at 07:45 PM.

11-04-2019, 04:50 AM	#26
One Great Matrix All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,782	Jackson's card wants glasses. __________________

10-25-2019, 09:49 PM	#24
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	Im all for putting more cards into circulation. Ive been a big proponent of converting lots of rewards from pp to packs. ultimate team does that pretty well.