Historical Leagues

Jestre · 07-10-2014, 03:16 PM

I rarely see any straightforward Historical Leagues posting for openings anymore. I wonder if there are any left. Particularly ones that are in the 1901-1950 era. I used to commish the MLBC which started with OOTP2 with the 1905 season and lasted thru the 1980 season with OOTP 6.5 . Have been kicking the tires on maybe jumping back into joining a league but I don't ever see any that fit my criteria. Are there any historical leagues that use only historical players with historical league structure??? Seems they all are fictional, or random entry or some relegation type crap or some other hybrid league if they aren't modern leagues....

changewand · 07-10-2014, 04:24 PM

you aren't alone - I'm looking for exactly the same thing. Unfortunately have also seen the same thing around new leagues...

BigBen · 07-10-2014, 09:57 PM

If the interest is there I can do it with 16 serious GM.
I'm pre-retire so I've plenty of time for running a League.
16 GM should be fun but we can start with 8.
Pick 1 team in each division without trades between them.
Just reply here & I'll see.

Jestre · 07-11-2014, 12:25 AM

Sure if you get enough interest I would be in.

SilverSlugger · 07-11-2014, 11:23 AM

I would be interested in a such league.

changewand · 07-11-2014, 12:06 PM

I might be down for that!

Bigdummie · 07-11-2014, 10:22 PM

I would be interested in a historical league. Thanks

Okay · 07-12-2014, 03:36 AM

Yeah, well who gets to be the Yankees and who gets to be the Browns? That's a problem right off for straight historical leagues. I play some solo leagues historical, but in online leagues, people usually want something a bit more balanced.

Jestre · 07-12-2014, 10:11 AM

That's why you start the league with a draft.....

and you can play without finances or with leveled market sizes...

We are talking about historical players and historical league structure.

I would argue that an historical league with an opening draft is the most balanced way to play because everyone knows the incoming rookies and how well they will perform.

Okay · 07-12-2014, 12:21 PM

Can also be the most boring way to play, because of those last factors ... Look, I'm a fan of historical play. But the phrase "straightforward historical" in your OP does not equate to historical fiction, which you are now describing.

Jestre · 07-12-2014, 12:36 PM

Fiction is fictional players, fictional teams etc, using historical teams with historical players is historical. Don't be that guy....

blade von bartle · 07-13-2014, 01:34 PM

Home there might be 1-2 openings

Bigdummie · 07-13-2014, 10:21 PM

Is there a contact person that could give me some details on the league? I visited the league site, but I did not see a comish email. Thanks

Grandbudda · 07-22-2014, 05:49 PM

Interested in. Historical league from 50s-60s too

BigBen · 07-22-2014, 07:32 PM

Ok I need 3 more GM (1 team in each League without trades between them) or 11 to be an all human GM League. I'll not run a team, only as Commish.
Depending of the interest I'll contact Fidel asap to setup a League website.
Here's what I thinking :
Sim 1880 to 1900, erase all the history / records ect & dump all players in a draft.
Before I'll run the draft I'll creating a financially balance League to be fair for everybody.
Gm will know his players when they will pick their teams.
Rating 1-100 / Scouts & Coaches on & I would like to implant a salary cap later.
For the AMMY draft I'll use a lotery system only for the 1st round, the 3 worst record of each League will be in. For moving quickly I'll sim 7days every weekdays. More to come

So far peoples interested :
Jestre / Changewand / Silver Slugger / Bigdummie & Grandbudda.

captaincoop17 · 07-22-2014, 08:10 PM

Never been in a historical league before, wouldn't mind trying it?

Jestre · 07-22-2014, 11:26 PM

There is no point in having scouts and coaches in a historical league, all the players are known quantities. I would recommend using the reserve clause without free agency at least for awhile since there will be few extra players and filling positions can be difficult.

Jax Powers · 07-24-2014, 12:41 AM

im interested

BigBen · 07-24-2014, 10:39 PM

Thanks for those who has shown interest but unfortunately I'll pass this project.
After reflexions I think playing an historical League(1901) solo & online it's very different, solo you can finish your season in 1 week but online it's another story ...
Simulate 5 seasons a year (and I'm very generous) we'll reach the Baseballs Rebirth Era in year 2018, the Golden Years Era in year 2023, the Baseball Boom Era in year 2026 ect ect ... that's no sense

. That's maybe why we don't see opening often for this type of League ...
Anyway sorry guys but life continue

Jestre · 07-24-2014, 11:24 PM

No prob, fyi when I commished the MLBC we ran about 7 1/2 seasons per year. We started with the 1905 season in the year 2000 and completed the 1980 season in the year 2009. We simmed a half month every M-W-F.

07-10-2014, 03:16 PM	#1
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	Historical Leagues I rarely see any straightforward Historical Leagues posting for openings anymore. I wonder if there are any left. Particularly ones that are in the 1901-1950 era. I used to commish the MLBC which started with OOTP2 with the 1905 season and lasted thru the 1980 season with OOTP 6.5 . Have been kicking the tires on maybe jumping back into joining a league but I don't ever see any that fit my criteria. Are there any historical leagues that use only historical players with historical league structure??? Seems they all are fictional, or random entry or some relegation type crap or some other hybrid league if they aren't modern leagues.... __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"

07-10-2014, 09:57 PM	#3
BigBen Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 92 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	If the interest is there I can do it with 16 serious GM. I'm pre-retire so I've plenty of time for running a League. 16 GM should be fun but we can start with 8. Pick 1 team in each division without trades between them. Just reply here & I'll see. Last edited by BigBen; 07-10-2014 at 10:05 PM.

07-11-2014, 12:25 AM	#4
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	Sure if you get enough interest I would be in. __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"

07-12-2014, 10:11 AM	#9
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	That's why you start the league with a draft..... and you can play without finances or with leveled market sizes... We are talking about historical players and historical league structure. I would argue that an historical league with an opening draft is the most balanced way to play because everyone knows the incoming rookies and how well they will perform. __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers" Last edited by Jestre; 07-12-2014 at 10:16 AM.

07-12-2014, 12:36 PM	#11
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	Fiction is fictional players, fictional teams etc, using historical teams with historical players is historical. Don't be that guy.... __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"

07-10-2014, 04:24 PM	#2
changewand Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 88	you aren't alone - I'm looking for exactly the same thing. Unfortunately have also seen the same thing around new leagues...

07-11-2014, 11:23 AM	#5
SilverSlugger Bat Boy Join Date: May 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 8	I would be interested in a such league.

07-11-2014, 12:06 PM	#6
changewand Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 88	I might be down for that!

07-11-2014, 10:22 PM	#7
Bigdummie Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: West Michigan Posts: 358	I would be interested in a historical league. Thanks

07-12-2014, 03:36 AM	#8
Okay Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2014 Location: OK Posts: 53 Blog Entries: 1	Yeah, well who gets to be the Yankees and who gets to be the Browns? That's a problem right off for straight historical leagues. I play some solo leagues historical, but in online leagues, people usually want something a bit more balanced.

07-12-2014, 12:21 PM	#10
Okay Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2014 Location: OK Posts: 53 Blog Entries: 1	Can also be the most boring way to play, because of those last factors ... Look, I'm a fan of historical play. But the phrase "straightforward historical" in your OP does not equate to historical fiction, which you are now describing.

07-13-2014, 01:34 PM	#12
blade von bartle Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alberta ,Canada Posts: 46	Home there might be 1-2 openings __________________ 1970,72,74 ,American League East Champions ORB2 1970,72 ,American League Champions ORB2 1973 Americian League Wild Card 1972 Manager of the Year ORB2 1986 New York Mets Champions USBL

07-13-2014, 10:21 PM	#13
Bigdummie Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: West Michigan Posts: 358	Is there a contact person that could give me some details on the league? I visited the league site, but I did not see a comish email. Thanks

07-22-2014, 05:49 PM	#14
Grandbudda Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Rochester NY Posts: 374 Blog Entries: 5	Historical league Interested in. Historical league from 50s-60s too

07-22-2014, 07:32 PM	#15
BigBen Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 92 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Ok I need 3 more GM (1 team in each League without trades between them) or 11 to be an all human GM League. I'll not run a team, only as Commish. Depending of the interest I'll contact Fidel asap to setup a League website. Here's what I thinking : Sim 1880 to 1900, erase all the history / records ect & dump all players in a draft. Before I'll run the draft I'll creating a financially balance League to be fair for everybody. Gm will know his players when they will pick their teams. Rating 1-100 / Scouts & Coaches on & I would like to implant a salary cap later. For the AMMY draft I'll use a lotery system only for the 1st round, the 3 worst record of each League will be in. For moving quickly I'll sim 7days every weekdays. More to come So far peoples interested : Jestre / Changewand / Silver Slugger / Bigdummie & Grandbudda.

07-22-2014, 08:10 PM	#16
captaincoop17 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 869	Never been in a historical league before, wouldn't mind trying it?

07-22-2014, 11:26 PM	#17
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	There is no point in having scouts and coaches in a historical league, all the players are known quantities. I would recommend using the reserve clause without free agency at least for awhile since there will be few extra players and filling positions can be difficult. __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"

07-24-2014, 12:41 AM	#18
Jax Powers Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 141	im interested

07-24-2014, 10:39 PM	#19
BigBen Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 92 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Thanks for those who has shown interest but unfortunately I'll pass this project. After reflexions I think playing an historical League(1901) solo & online it's very different, solo you can finish your season in 1 week but online it's another story ... Simulate 5 seasons a year (and I'm very generous) we'll reach the Baseballs Rebirth Era in year 2018, the Golden Years Era in year 2023, the Baseball Boom Era in year 2026 ect ect ... that's no sense . That's maybe why we don't see opening often for this type of League ... Anyway sorry guys but life continue

07-24-2014, 11:24 PM	#20
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	No prob, fyi when I commished the MLBC we ran about 7 1/2 seasons per year. We started with the 1905 season in the year 2000 and completed the 1980 season in the year 2009. We simmed a half month every M-W-F. __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"