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Old 01-03-2014, 01:42 PM   #21
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My understanding is that they should.

that's interesting. So the yankees would be off the hook for ARod salary, however every other team would be affected in what they have to offer their potential Free agents.
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Old 01-03-2014, 01:46 PM   #22
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The point is that the game AI should not be doing any evaluation. Under the new CBA rule all FA that have played a complete season ie not traded waived etc with one team are eligible to receive a QO before free agency. The concept of compensation eligible does not exist except for the one team rule described above.

I don't even care about how the QO is calculated. Just give me the opportunity to make QO's or not, to any all or none of my pending FA.

Can we agree it's broken and needs to be fixed?
Question, since you have been here longer, is the AI capable of making decision of accepting the QO vs going FA at this point? i have not seen one potential FA accept a QO (wrongly called arbitration), so i'm curious if that whole logic needs to be changed.
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Old 01-03-2014, 01:49 PM   #23
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Question, since you have been here longer, is the AI capable of making decision of accepting the QO vs going FA at this point? i have not seen one potential FA accept a QO (wrongly called arbitration), so i'm curious if that whole logic needs to be changed.
Well, to be fair, no potential FA's accepted their qualifying offers this year irl either.

Perhaps the logic does need to be changed, idk, but this years crop of rl fa's certainly doesn't suggest that that's the case.
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Old 01-03-2014, 01:50 PM   #24
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that's interesting. So the yankees would be off the hook for ARod salary, however every other team would be affected in what they have to offer their potential Free agents.
I think so... I may be wrong though.
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Old 01-03-2014, 01:53 PM   #25
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Well, to be fair, no potential FA's accepted their qualifying offers this year irl either.

Perhaps the logic does need to be changed, idk, but this years crop of rl fa's certainly doesn't suggest that that's the case.
well, they didn't because GM are afraid of the consequences. how would AI have handled had i offered a QO to Josh Johnson (which i would have btw). this needs to be programmed. how would AI evaluate this?
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well, they didn't because GM are afraid of the consequences. how would AI have handled had i offered a QO to Josh Johnson. this needs to be programmed. how would AI evaluate this?
Yeah, good point.
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Old 01-03-2014, 02:23 PM   #27
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Question, since you have been here longer, is the AI capable of making decision of accepting the QO vs going FA at this point? i have not seen one potential FA accept a QO (wrongly called arbitration), so i'm curious if that whole logic needs to be changed.
I had a DH accept arbitration (since it's really arb, not a QO, currently) once, and I was mildly upset that I wasn't going to get the draft pick (I ate his salary and traded him, instead), but I can only think of one instance where a comp-eligible free agent took arbitration rather than free agency.

Related, are teams allowed to offer QOs to players who decline a player option? I know we can offer a QO to players with vesting options where they fail to vest.
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well, they didn't because GM are afraid of the consequences. how would AI have handled had i offered a QO to Josh Johnson (which i would have btw). this needs to be programmed. how would AI evaluate this?
The AI would have released him or traded him for a pot of pine tar long before it got to the QO.
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Compensation for unsigned pick also appears incorrect.

in didn't sign the 40th pick overall round 2, no.4

i now was awarded next year round 2 no.5. I believe the CBA rules say i should get no.41 next year.


added: yep. In 2012 Mets didn't sign Teddy Stankiewicz, 15th pick round 2 (75th overall). This year they got pick 76 to compensate, which was actually in the 3rd round

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Old 01-04-2014, 11:25 PM   #30
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Compensation for unsigned pick also appears incorrect.

in didn't sign the 40th pick overall round 2, no.4

i now was awarded next year round 2 no.5. I believe the CBA rules say i should get no.41 next year.


added: yep. In 2012 Mets didn't sign Teddy Stankiewicz, 15th pick round 2 (75th overall). This year they got pick 76 to compensate, which was actually in the 3rd round
Never noticed this before, thanks.
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:51 PM   #31
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Compensation for unsigned pick also appears incorrect.

in didn't sign the 40th pick overall round 2, no.4

i now was awarded next year round 2 no.5. I believe the CBA rules say i should get no.41 next year.
That's not actually in the CBA, but is a change in the Major League Rules regarding the draft made back in 2007.

It has been pointed out before, but unfortunately, due to the way the draft was coded, the "draft pick plus one" compensation selection couldn't be done that way. Thus the way OOTP does it instead.

Maybe that can be changed for OOTP 15. Time will tell...
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Old 01-05-2014, 12:32 AM   #32
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thanks. interesting that they would not have put it in the new CBA specifically, especially with the other change to protection (2 years).

(but i guess since it affects players who are not yet part of the union, they didn't really care)

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