Owners Dying

GiantYankee · 12-24-2013, 02:07 PM

Please give us the ability to turn off owners dying. Or the ability to turn off owners altogether. I don't like seeing so much change in ownership especially when death comes into play. I play OOTP for entertainment and time away from reality.

Mr. Baseball · 12-24-2013, 03:03 PM

People have brought this up before. It's not the big issue people make it out to be. Death happens in movies and books, why not OOTP? Nobody actually dies, it's just fictional. If it bothers you ignore it.

Fyrestorm3 · 12-24-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Baseball

People have brought this up before. It's not the big issue people make it out to be. Death happens in movies and books, why not OOTP? Nobody actually dies, it's just fictional. If it bothers you ignore it.

While I do agree with your basic premise, there's no reason why we shouldn't have the option to turn owners off. Even with the death aspect out of the picture, some people just might not like having an ownership turnover, regardless of how realistic it might be.

Mr. Baseball · 12-24-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

While I do agree with your basic premise, there's no reason why we shouldn't have the option to turn owners off. Even with the death aspect out of the picture, some people just might not like having an ownership turnover, regardless of how realistic it might be.

There is a reason to not have it. If you make it possible to 'turn off' and 'turn on' every feature and little thing in the game you're going to overwhelm some people. The complexity of OOTP is already pretty heavy for beginners. You need to prioritize what's important and leave the rest in an effort to not make things too complex.

Fyrestorm3 · 12-24-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Baseball

There is a reason to not have it. If you make it possible to 'turn off' and 'turn on' every feature and little thing in the game you're going to overwhelm some people. The complexity of OOTP is already pretty heavy for beginners. You need to prioritize what's important and leave the rest in an effort to not make things too complex.

Au contraire - the brilliance of OOTP is, in my opinion, the incredible level of customization you can have in your league. It also doesn't have to be overwhelming to a beginner - as it stands right now, what beginner is going to delve into custom financials? Or database editing? Those are FAR more complicated than a simple on/off switch for owners. The default setting would be on, and there's no reason to change it unless you're already experienced and looking to set up your own league. More customization options is NEVER a bad idea.

Orcin · 12-24-2013, 05:16 PM

It's annoying. It damages the immersion. Owner fatality rates of 20% are unrealistic. The incidence of men naming their sons with the same name is not 99% in the real world.

I think the feature should be fixed, then there would be no reason to turn it off. In lieu of correcting the behavior, an off switch would be a nice option.

le receveur · 12-24-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

While I do agree with your basic premise, there's no reason why we shouldn't have the option to turn owners off. Even with the death aspect out of the picture, some people just might not like having an ownership turnover, regardless of how realistic it might be.

but on the other hand, if it's turned off i would hate now having a 112 year old owner

Mr. Baseball · 12-24-2013, 06:10 PM

Doesn't matter. From my experience, OOTP doesn't read any of our suggestions anyway. So many things are brought up and receive tons of support every year...things that are incredibly easy to implement (more filters), and OOTP does nothing about it.

I'm convinced they don't even read these.

The Wolf · 12-24-2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GiantYankee

Please give us the ability to turn off owners dying. Or the ability to turn off owners altogether. I don't like seeing so much change in ownership especially when death comes into play. I play OOTP for entertainment and time away from reality.

This is a good idea.

The Wolf · 12-24-2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by le receveur

but on the other hand, if it's turned off i would hate now having a 112 year old owner

Why not? We have an undead commissioner.

Fyrestorm3 · 12-24-2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by le receveur

but on the other hand, if it's turned off i would hate now having a 112 year old owner

That could happen if you sim more than you play out games. Everyone plays differently; I would never see that, as I play out every game and therefore only get through 10-15 seasons max in each game.

This is exactly why there should be an option.

Orcin · 12-24-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by le receveur

but on the other hand, if it's turned off i would hate now having a 112 year old owner

It's no worse than having a 129-year-old attend his Hall of Fame induction and make a speech.

BigCity · 12-24-2013, 10:50 PM

Just a personal note - I'm having a difficult time reading post after post about improving the "immersion factor" and getting more realism into the game - yet wanting to remove death because it's "too" realistic.

I think the "death formula" should not only be fixed but expanded to every "character" in the game. I could even accept a news story each year with a list of "people we lost" with a link to their career stats. I also agree that teams should be bought and sold as well as owners passing.

My 2 cents.

RchW · 12-24-2013, 11:10 PM

Anyone who doesn't want to be immortal doesn't know the meaning of immersion.

The Game · 12-25-2013, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Baseball

People have brought this up before. It's not the big issue people make it out to be. Death happens in movies and books, why not OOTP? Nobody actually dies, it's just fictional. If it bothers you ignore it.

As Orcin pointed out 6 owners in 18 months is a little severe.

Honorable_Pawn · 12-25-2013, 09:07 AM

And players not dying is twice as severe.

Painmantle · 12-25-2013, 09:15 AM

Last time I checked the mortality rate among Human Beings was 100%

Honorable_Pawn · 12-25-2013, 05:38 PM

le receveur · 12-26-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Painmantle

Last time I checked the mortality rate among Human Beings was 100%

actually over 100% when including the one who died twice

Honorable_Pawn · 12-27-2013, 08:31 AM

I hate seeing 100 yr old players. That needs to change as well as the owner mortality rate.

12-24-2013, 02:07 PM	#1
GiantYankee All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,104	Owners Dying Please give us the ability to turn off owners dying. Or the ability to turn off owners altogether. I don't like seeing so much change in ownership especially when death comes into play. I play OOTP for entertainment and time away from reality.

12-24-2013, 03:03 PM	#2
Mr. Baseball All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mequon, Wisconsin Posts: 1,020	People have brought this up before. It's not the big issue people make it out to be. Death happens in movies and books, why not OOTP? Nobody actually dies, it's just fictional. If it bothers you ignore it. __________________ Duluth Danger (HBL) Dynasty Report -- Online League Franchise Duluth - 1985/1989 North League Champions!

12-24-2013, 06:10 PM	#8
Mr. Baseball All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mequon, Wisconsin Posts: 1,020	Doesn't matter. From my experience, OOTP doesn't read any of our suggestions anyway. So many things are brought up and receive tons of support every year...things that are incredibly easy to implement (more filters), and OOTP does nothing about it. I'm convinced they don't even read these. __________________ Duluth Danger (HBL) Dynasty Report -- Online League Franchise Duluth - 1985/1989 North League Champions!

12-24-2013, 11:10 PM	#14
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	Anyone who doesn't want to be immortal doesn't know the meaning of immersion. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

12-25-2013, 09:07 AM	#16
Honorable_Pawn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,407	And players not dying is twice as severe. __________________ PBA Quickstart for OOTP Background Images Collection All PBA games broadcast live on Steam.

12-24-2013, 05:16 PM	#6
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,798	It's annoying. It damages the immersion. Owner fatality rates of 20% are unrealistic. The incidence of men naming their sons with the same name is not 99% in the real world. I think the feature should be fixed, then there would be no reason to turn it off. In lieu of correcting the behavior, an off switch would be a nice option.

12-24-2013, 10:50 PM	#13
BigCity All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South Shore, Great Lakes Posts: 1,386	Just a personal note - I'm having a difficult time reading post after post about improving the "immersion factor" and getting more realism into the game - yet wanting to remove death because it's "too" realistic. I think the "death formula" should not only be fixed but expanded to every "character" in the game. I could even accept a news story each year with a list of "people we lost" with a link to their career stats. I also agree that teams should be bought and sold as well as owners passing. My 2 cents.

12-25-2013, 09:15 AM	#17
Painmantle Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greenfield ,IN Posts: 3,053	Last time I checked the mortality rate among Human Beings was 100% __________________ “As soon as I got out there I felt a strange relationship with the pitcher's mound. It was as if I'd been born out there. Pitching just felt like the most natural thing in the world. Striking out batters was easy.” -Babe Ruth “Ruth made a grave mistake when he gave up pitching. Working once a week, he might have lasted a long time and become a great star.”-Tris Speaker My Dynasties The Beantown Bambino

12-25-2013, 05:38 PM	#18
Honorable_Pawn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,407	__________________ PBA Quickstart for OOTP Background Images Collection All PBA games broadcast live on Steam.

12-27-2013, 08:31 AM	#20
Honorable_Pawn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,407	I hate seeing 100 yr old players. That needs to change as well as the owner mortality rate. __________________ PBA Quickstart for OOTP Background Images Collection All PBA games broadcast live on Steam.