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12-11-2013, 09:51 AM | #1 |
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MR to SP - LOL
How is this not possibe? I have some historically great examples (and I'm sure you do, too) of great pitchers that came up in the draft as MR. However, these historically future SPs remain MR in iOOTP.
I've set their position to SP in the Minors ... I've brought them up to the Majors as SPs ... But their stamina remains 6 pitches. They remain MRs For example: David Come David Stewart Ron Guidry Mark Fidrych Kevin Brown etc., etc., etc. Is it even possible to make ANY MR a SP? |
12-11-2013, 09:53 AM | #2 |
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wondering abt this as well..
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12-11-2013, 06:58 PM | #3 |
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The only way this happens is if the pitcher has 3+ good pitches and good stamina which is rare in MRs.
One of the few things I strongly dislike about this game is the stamina system for pitchers. Yearly, many pitchers' stamina ratings fall of the edge of the world. But I've found it extremely rare for MRs with really bad stamina to become a remote possibility for being a starter. Nolan Ryan, Steve Carlton, Phil Niekro, Adam Wainwright, and countless other pitching greats are career bullpen guys because their stamina ratings suck when you draft them in this game. I think if you give a reliever spot starts and a bigger workload overall their stamina should increase. The stamina concept in this game needs work. |
12-12-2013, 12:45 AM | #4 |
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I drafted this guy in round 5. He was a CF but when I looked at his ratings he had pitcher potential. When the year passed to January this is what he became. Look for these HS gems that are playing the wrong position.
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12-12-2013, 12:48 AM | #5 |
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Sorry I was wrong. I drafted him in round 4 and now he is the #85 prospect.
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12-20-2013, 12:36 AM | #6 |
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Yet there remains no way to develop a pitcher who is historically an ace, from MR to SP. Almost all the draft SP are rated as bullpen. Why does the draft rating have them as SP? It's called a defect in the program, a design defect to be a bit more specific. Fix it.
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12-23-2013, 12:26 PM | #7 |
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Yeah, I mentioned this before to no avail. I suppose it is out of the mistaken belief that all MR are failed SP.
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12-23-2013, 12:32 PM | #8 | ||
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Keep an eye on any MR with good stamina, though. Every now and then one will suddenly develop a third pitch and become unhappy as their expectation suddenly changes from bullpen to starter. Quote:
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01-03-2014, 06:01 PM | #9 |
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Sometimes i get a starter with stamina around 30 (out of 100). It really sucks cause i dont know how to work with a 4-5 inning starter. I have one so good that when i try to trade him the assistant coach thinks im getting ripped off and ruining the team. And i know from experience if i make him a closer his stamina will drop down below 10.
Will a starter never improve his stamina?
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01-17-2014, 04:28 PM | #10 |
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01-18-2014, 12:07 PM | #11 |
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Agreed: stamina needs tweaking, as does the mislabeling of MRs and CLs in the draft as SPs.
Players are rated for greed (and perhaps other factors), ratings that are hidden from us. Would coding be too costly in coders' time and/or memory to have a "work ethic" factor, too, which might influence potential stamina increases, potential third pitches, etc. -- I think of a "work ethic" rating as including coachability, off-season work habits, gym-rat tendencies, proper diet, avoidance of demon rum, etc. That should apply to defense, too -- don't 18-year-old fielders ever dramatically improve their defense? |
01-18-2014, 03:29 PM | #12 | |
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On the other hand, if you have an 18 year old catcher and his catching abilities are bad, then he will likely never get a good defense rating. |
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01-21-2014, 12:14 PM | #13 |
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If a pitcher increases his stamina his other ratings should probably come down a little including pitch speed just like a sprinter would if he decided to become a long-distance runner.
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04-25-2014, 05:13 AM | #14 |
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Now with the player editor... It changes this discussion a bit.
We can now experiment with giving someone an extra pitch before making them a starter. Changes a lot....
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05-07-2014, 09:01 AM | #15 |
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05-07-2014, 09:04 AM | #16 |
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I raised his stamina, and added a pitch( or was that two...?)
. After a year, he's now a slotted starter and expects to be one.
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05-07-2014, 09:05 AM | #17 |
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Experiment proven. In one case at least...
Goose Gossage! A starter!
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05-07-2014, 01:13 PM | #18 | |
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I know someone who only plays fictional so he doesn't have any expectation on a player based on his real life stats. |
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05-07-2014, 01:24 PM | #19 |
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If you are playing a historical league, with no recalc, you NEED to go under advanced settings in the creation wizard and set Stamina to be based on the player's entire career. Default is a 3-year period, so if a pitcher spent the better part of his first 3 seasons as a reliever he will NEVER (almost) become a starter without recalc.
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05-07-2014, 01:42 PM | #20 | |
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