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I don't really care either way to be honest. I don't care what he says or does. In my opinion, it's not abuse. In yours it is. We will agree to disagree.
Edit: I also think if it was SO abusive someone would have said something to him. No one said a word. Not one single person. I wouldn't tolerate being "abused" by a co-worker. Would you? That's all.
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And as I stated before, but you gnored like my last sentence above, trash talking occurs in EVERY practice and in EVERY game. Trash talking is normal. So using your logic, wouldn't that be "abusive"? Saying "you can't effen stop me" or similar, and then proving it basket after basket, is "abusive"? Give me a break.
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Vegas has them at 31.5 wins and I think they have no incentive to compete this year. I am not saying they will throw games, but I expect them to play their young guys a lot. Maybe run out Noah since they are paying him anyways. Lots of Knox and Robinson and Ntilikina. Your team will be pretty terrible and Porzingis is not expected back until Jan/Feb. If your team is already 10 games out of the 8th seed by that point I would not be surprised if they simply shut him down for all the season and worked to build up that knee back to strength. Just focus on next offseason and do what you can to free up cap space. Maybe frame Tim Hardaway Jr for a murder? Produce documents showing Noah is a member of ISIS? Whatever you can do to get off bad contracts and hope you land a good draft pick next June. |
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As far as the last part, I would use the "all poodles are dogs but not all dogs are poodles" cliche. Trash talking can be harmless, but some goes beyond acceptable. Bragging about your abilities I wouldn't call abuse. But demeaning another is. That's where Butler would have crossed the line if the reports are true.
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Like I said. I will not change your mind. You will not change mine. We will agree to disagree. I have no desire to pursue this any further.
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I also wasn't seeking to change your opinion. What I was attempting to do was show the reasons you gave for saying it wasn't abuse didn't measure up. I'm not going to try and convince anyone of anything when the sources given are unnamed. I also recognize mainstream media would not be able to quote word for word the worst of what was potentially said because it wouldn't make it past the censors. But if you want to say it wasn't abuse & say the reason why is because you just don't think so....God speed.
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And I explained why I didn't think it's abusive. In no way, shape or form did I or do I "just don't think so." Now I'm done. Just answered out of respect for your opinions and thoughts. No matter how misguided and wrong they are.
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One of the biggest errors people make in debates is concluding someone's comparison is the same as equalizing. People who do think that way either misunderstand what is said, or are making a cheap accusation when they see they aren't defending their position well. In no way, shape or form did I equate what Butler did to hazing, rape & schoolyard bullying. I would never attempt to rank any of those things on some kind of "heinous meter". I was very clear in why I brought up those other things: Just because something is considered common does not mean it isn't abuse.
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The only bright note is that since you posted this, they did divest themselves of Noah, finally. The Knicks apparently freed up some cap room (and a roster spot), by spreading his final contract year over three years in exchange for being released. Another rebuilding year, sigh. It's like waiting for one of the Egyptian pyramids to be built.
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Lonzo Ball's new kicks. I think they asked Ball which color he liked best & he answered "Yes".
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I have seen worse. Not often but I have seen worse.
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No one talking Lakers/Rockets melee? If I was basketball czar, Rondo would get 20, Ingram 10, Paul 3. I've got no time for spitting in someone's face. I have no idea what got into Ingram, but he needs a serious time out. I don't blame Paul one bit for how he reacted. Even if he had thrown the 1st punch. You don't spit on someone and not expect to get your butt whooped. The fact that he "held back" initially a modicum of restraint. And once you are hit, you are allowed to defend yourself. He gets suspended simply because the NBA can't appear to condone fighting under any circumstances.
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