Playoff roster management with injured player coming back

[Westheim]

I face an interesting dilemma here with my Raccoons. Prior to the playoffs we lost two batters (our 4-5 punch) to injury. Both were put on the DL, not expecting them to come back in time for the World Series, should we get into that one anyway (which is still not sure).

Five games through the LCS I have noticed that on the day of game 6 one of the batters is listed as being out for four days. Now, even if the series goes the full seven games, that means he won't be ready to get back BEFORE the series starts.

The question is the following: can he get back onto the roster DURING the World Series, if I leave a spot open deliberately?

If it makes a difference, we had only 24 eligible players anyway, there's a walk-on guy on there, who doesn't produce a lot. Can he be dropped after the LCS to open a spot for the prized batter to come back by - say - game 3 of the World Series?

Now, I once had a situation a few seasons ago where that same guy that is hurt now got hurt early in the LCS, was put on the DL (but no replacement was ever made and I could not even replace him after the LCS was over for whatever reason), and then was able to come back late in the World Series. Only to get hurt again. But that was a different deal since he was never taken off the roster.

[24Rocks]

Put him on the active roster and then put him on the playoff roster if there is I have yet to find a way to replace players injured during a series or put people in the lineup during the series but if he can't play right away you have to decide if it's worth it.

[tds7887]

I don't know if you can put an injured player on the 25 man roster.

If you make yourself the commissioner you can edit his injury and have him healthy before the series starts and add him that way. If you don't want him to play a game or three because he should be still injured just set your game strategy to not use him (assuming you let the PC manage the game)

There's no way to add or replace a player mid-series, which is unfortunate.

[Westheim]

I'm now through the LCS and the problem is not moot since we will play a few more games.

Originally Posted by tds7887

I don't know if you can put an injured player on the 25 man roster.

On the day between series now, at least on the player card, under Transactions, the option "place on playoff roster" appears. It is currently full, though, and I would have to consider whom to drop first, which isn't that much of an easy call, since that walk-on actually made himself useful.

At any rate, the injured player still has two days remaining, and is not listed under the eligible players on the playoff roster management screen.

Originally Posted by tds7887

If you make yourself the commissioner you can edit his injury and have him healthy before the series starts and add him that way. If you don't want him to play a game or three because he should be still injured just set your game strategy to not use him (assuming you let the PC manage the game)

I play-by-play all my games, so managing strategy is not a problem.

Would be neat to have this .920 OPS bat back, if only for games 3+. I'd consider editing out his injury as cheating, though. In the end it's my fault for disabling him in the first place.

Originally Posted by tds7887

There's no way to add or replace a player mid-series, which is unfortunate.

Aww.

Well, it's late here, I'm gonna think about this all day tomorrow at work.

[24Rocks]

Originally Posted by tds7887

I don't know if you can put an injured player on the 25 man roster.

If you make yourself the commissioner you can edit his injury and have him healthy before the series starts and add him that way. If you don't want him to play a game or three because he should be still injured just set your game strategy to not use him (assuming you let the PC manage the game)

There's no way to add or replace a player mid-series, which is unfortunate.

You can put injured players on the roster only if they have no DL days left remaining and you can add him to playoff roster assuming he is eligible which he should be if he was on MLB DL or roster during August 31st September 1st.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by tds7887

I don't know if you can put an injured player on the 25 man roster.

If you make yourself the commissioner you can edit his injury and have him healthy before the series starts and add him that way. If you don't want him to play a game or three because he should be still injured just set your game strategy to not use him (assuming you let the PC manage the game)

There's no way to add or replace a player mid-series, which is unfortunate.

Well, it may be unfortunate that one can't use the player, but the rule emulates real life MLB rules.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by tds7887

I don't know if you can put an injured player on the 25 man roster.

If you make yourself the commissioner you can edit his injury and have him healthy before the series starts and add him that way. If you don't want him to play a game or three because he should be still injured just set your game strategy to not use him (assuming you let the PC manage the game)

There's no way to add or replace a player mid-series, which is unfortunate.

Of course you can put an injured player on the roster. Obviously he can't have days left on the DL and he needs to be on the active roster and playoff eligible. The 25 man roster in the playoffs is different than the regular season. The active roster is 40 or whatever setting is made. You then have a playoff eligible roster, usually more than 25 from which you can move players back and forth in between series to make up the 25 players you wish to use.

The bad news is that there is no way to replace an injured player while a series is underway

[Westheim]

The player in question has been on the DL for more than 15 days, so that should not be an issue. I will try to get him off and onto the main roster, and then the playoff roster tonight.

Thanks guys.

[tds7887]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Well, it may be unfortunate that one can't use the player, but the rule emulates real life MLB rules.

Real life rules say if a player gets injured during the series he can be replaced but cannot return for the following series. In real life a team could totally put an injured player on the playoff roster and not use him until he's not injured. Obviously it's not so 'I AM INJURED FOR ONE MORE DAY BUT THEN I'M HEALTHY' in real life.

Originally Posted by RchW

Of course you can put an injured player on the roster.

Your right, I was thinking of a situation where you can't demote an injured player to the minors

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by tds7887

Real life rules say if a player gets injured during the series he can be replaced but cannot return for the following series. In real life a team could totally put an injured player on the playoff roster and not use him until he's not injured. Obviously it's not so 'I AM INJURED FOR ONE MORE DAY BUT THEN I'M HEALTHY' in real life.



Your right, I was thinking of a situation where you can't demote an injured player to the minors

We're not talking about a player injured during a series. The OP clearly stated the players were injured prior to the play-offs. You cannot add players to your 25 man roster during a series.

When he's eligible to come off the DL, he can be added after that series ends and before the next one starts, provided he's eligible.

[Westheim]

I've had some issues here, since

a) the game refused to move the player from the DL to the active roster, which it deemed full (29 out of 40 doesn't sound full to me, unless you consider the expanded rosters to seize existence after game #162)
b) the game refused to move the player from the DL to the playoff roster, even when I removed one of the eight infielders on there and thus had only 24 men left on it

It did b) while maintaining this was either due to

c) the playoff roster being full (which it wasnt, a spot was open) or
d) the player not being eligible (which he was, since he has been either on the 25-man roster or the DL for more than 13 years without interruption);

That's when I went into commishioners mode to find out that he in fact WAS eligible for the playoff roster, so adding him should not be an issue!

At this point I consider my reservation from yesterday about "cheating" moot, since the program clearly doesn't adhere to what it states from one page to the next.

I have thus edited out his injury, added him to the 25-man roster (which required cleaning out everybody not on the playoff roster and waiving two scrubs, including that eighth infielder), then added him to the playoff roster, and will now leave him on the bench until game 3.

Since his DL time was up, I felt entitled to do some "cheating" here.

This is all back in OOTP 12, by the way (don't have 13 and don't feel like migrating the dynasty anyway), so the erratic behavior may or may not be fixed in 14.

Thanks guys!

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by Westheim

I've had some issues here, since

a) the game refused to move the player from the DL to the active roster, which it deemed full (29 out of 40 doesn't sound full to me, unless you consider the expanded rosters to seize existence after game #162)
b) the game refused to move the player from the DL to the playoff roster, even when I removed one of the eight infielders on there and thus had only 24 men left on it

It did b) while maintaining this was either due to

c) the playoff roster being full (which it wasnt, a spot was open) or
d) the player not being eligible (which he was, since he has been either on the 25-man roster or the DL for more than 13 years without interruption);

That's when I went into commishioners mode to find out that he in fact WAS eligible for the playoff roster, so adding him should not be an issue!

At this point I consider my reservation from yesterday about "cheating" moot, since the program clearly doesn't adhere to what it states from one page to the next.

I have thus edited out his injury, added him to the 25-man roster (which required cleaning out everybody not on the playoff roster and waiving two scrubs, including that eighth infielder), then added him to the playoff roster, and will now leave him on the bench until game 3.

Since his DL time was up, I felt entitled to do some "cheating" here.

This is all back in OOTP 12, by the way (don't have 13 and don't feel like migrating the dynasty anyway), so the erratic behavior may or may not be fixed in 14.

Thanks guys!

AFAIK, and from my own experience, it works in 14. I believe it was new to this version or maybe 13, can't remember now.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Westheim

I've had some issues here, since

a) the game refused to move the player from the DL to the active roster, which it deemed full (29 out of 40 doesn't sound full to me, unless you consider the expanded rosters to seize existence after game #162)
b) the game refused to move the player from the DL to the playoff roster, even when I removed one of the eight infielders on there and thus had only 24 men left on it

It did b) while maintaining this was either due to

c) the playoff roster being full (which it wasnt, a spot was open) or
d) the player not being eligible (which he was, since he has been either on the 25-man roster or the DL for more than 13 years without interruption);

That's when I went into commishioners mode to find out that he in fact WAS eligible for the playoff roster, so adding him should not be an issue!

At this point I consider my reservation from yesterday about "cheating" moot, since the program clearly doesn't adhere to what it states from one page to the next.

I have thus edited out his injury, added him to the 25-man roster (which required cleaning out everybody not on the playoff roster and waiving two scrubs, including that eighth infielder), then added him to the playoff roster, and will now leave him on the bench until game 3.

Since his DL time was up, I felt entitled to do some "cheating" here.

This is all back in OOTP 12, by the way (don't have 13 and don't feel like migrating the dynasty anyway), so the erratic behavior may or may not be fixed in 14.

Thanks guys!

You have to use the playoff tab to make all these moves. If you try them in the transactions screen you will get the responses above. I don't have a screen shot or a league in playoffs otherwise it could be shown.

[Westheim]

Nah, it gave the responses in the playoff roster screen, AND the disabled list screen, AND the transactions screen.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Westheim

Nah, it gave the responses in the playoff roster screen, AND the disabled list screen, AND the transactions screen.

Are you in-between series?

[tds7887]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

We're not talking about a player injured during a series. The OP clearly stated the players were injured prior to the play-offs. You cannot add players to your 25 man roster

Right, I was mistaken in thinking you couldn't move an injured player to the active roster.

Originally Posted by Westheim

Nah, it gave the responses in the playoff roster screen, AND the disabled list screen, AND the transactions screen.

I usually play without playoff roster rules for this reason. Usually causes problems for me

[Matt Arnold]

I've done the same, with similar error messages. They keys are to do the operations one at a time.

Step 1: demote player from playoff roster, freeing room
Step 2: move player from IR to 40-man roster. This should bring him into the eligible players for playoff roster
Step 3:Move player on to active playoff roster

I believe if you go in this order, it should work itself out. I do this nearly every playoffs, as i always seem to have a guy who can only come back for game 3, and I figure it's usually better to have them for games 3-7 than someone else for the full series.

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by RchW

Are you in-between series?

Yes, I was in between series when I did all the movement stuff, so that off day after LCS game 7 and before WS game 1.

Originally Posted by UWHabs

Step 2: move player from IR to 40-man roster. This should bring him into the eligible players for playoff roster

I tried to move him directly from the DL to the playoff roster, which didn't work. Little worked after that.

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by Westheim

Yes, I was in between series when I did all the movement stuff, so that off day after LCS game 7 and before WS game 1.



I tried to move him directly from the DL to the playoff roster, which didn't work. Little worked after that.

The other thing that I've cheated with in the past is if you can demote people down to AAA with options, and get your active (non-playoff) roster below the 25 men limit, then you can sometimes activate the guy directly from the DL and you won't hit that "your active roster can't support this move" error.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Westheim

Yes, I was in between series when I did all the movement stuff, so that off day after LCS game 7 and before WS game 1.



I tried to move him directly from the DL to the playoff roster, which didn't work. Little worked after that.

Inside the playoff tab you have to move him from the DL to the active roster first. Then he should show up on the playoff eligible list.

Then and this is important you must move someone from the playoff 25 to the eligible for playoff list. Only then can you drag and drop him onto the playoff roster.

I'm working blind as there is no screen shot.