Do you play Draft Kings and/or FanDuel? - Page 5

TheMaus2 · 11-20-2015, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NYYANKS98

No. Although I disagree with making them illegal when we have the lottery peddling tons of money, their commercials piss me off to no end so good riddance.

Where is the no option in this poll?

^

kevrock · 11-20-2015, 10:36 PM

As a yearly buyer and evangelist for OOTP (just recruited a friend to our online league and he loves it!), this is maybe the one direction for the franchise that would seriously seriously concern me.

Raidergoo · 11-21-2015, 12:07 PM

I am surprised by the very strong opinions offered on the subject.

I do not like telling people what they can and cannot do with their money. I do not like telling a capitalist that they may or may not a particular business. I do not like telling Americans that they may not indulge in practices that are extremely common in most every other part of the world. I do not like like imposing a code of morality on other people's conduct.

Just because I do not like it doesn't mean that I will flinch from doing so. There are certain things that I find beyond the pale. Some of these bad things are silly, like the DH and astroturf. Others are bedrock principles of civilization, like child sacrifice and cannibalism. Between these extremes are a few things that I find reprehensible. One thing that I find reprehensible is for a professional sport to allow any association with gambling.

I think it is unethical to bet on baseball games if a person is a player, manager, or member of a professional club. I think it is unethical to bet on the statistical output of baseball games, if a person is involved in baseball. I think it is unethical to accept marketing dollars in exchange for goods and services if you are a player, coach, owner, or league. I believe that punishment for these actions must be savage, complete, unyielding, and eternal.

I am confident these actions are wrong and I am willing to write my ethical beliefs into Law. I am ready to impose my ethics on other people using the law enforcement powers of the State.

glenmere14 · 11-21-2015, 03:05 PM

No.

Zero interest

RchW · 11-21-2015, 03:38 PM

This thread confirms something I've felt for a long time. Fantasy sports players and sports management sim players are very different groups for the most part. I remember years ago trying to get some people I know who are in to fantasy sports interested in OOTP. They were mostly not interested with some being outright hostile to the idea. The hostility bewildered me.

swoboda · 11-21-2015, 03:39 PM

Still no

PS Given that there are limited resources to improve OOTPBB, I would vote for those resources to be used on improving other things

r0nster · 11-21-2015, 04:14 PM

incase you guys haven't heard that both those organizations are being sued. Well I should say the organizations that are promoting them and sponsoring the online stuff like that. From an attorney friend of mine said that based on their filing it seems to have some merit to their claim. Based on other class action court cases. I wouldn't expect these sites to last much longer

USF · 11-21-2015, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Hey guys,

do you play Draft Kings and / or FanDuel? It seems to be extremely popular and only growing, so we are thinking if we could add some features in OOTP which could act as a tool for users of those services.

Is there anything you could see as useful in OOTP? Would you take advantage of it in order to optimize your daily picks?

Thanks!
Markus

No interest.

BIG17EASY · 11-21-2015, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

This thread confirms something I've felt for a long time. Fantasy sports players and sports management sim players are very different groups for the most part. I remember years ago trying to get some people I know who are in to fantasy sports interested in OOTP. They were mostly not interested with some being outright hostile to the idea. The hostility bewildered me.

Very good point. It's obviously a small sample size, but my friends who play fantasy sports regularly are generally not that knowledgeable about sports beyond fanboy status. My friends who know sports extremely well and would understand the intricacies of OOTP are not interested in or rarely play fantasy sports.

I don't mean this to say all fantasy sports players don't understand sports. My point is that, in my experience, fans who understand the game on a deeper level (roster and transaction rules, game strategy, etc.) are more interested in those things than who has the most yards or who went 3-for-4.

kq76 · 11-21-2015, 08:55 PM

I just added a "neither" option as I think it's important to see the % of us that would never use it.

I don't mind OOTP spending some time on this if these sites throw a million dollars OOTP's way as they seem to love to spend their money on advertising, but I'd hope OOTP would reinvest that money into features more of us would want.

kevrock · 11-21-2015, 10:35 PM

Neither already has 35% of the vote after an hour and a half.

Amazin69 · 11-22-2015, 04:53 PM

I've never really enjoyed "fantasy" because it lacks the simulation-depth of games such as this (random people stuck together for stats accumulation? pass) and also lacks the analytical aspect of gambling on actual games. It's a worthless concept for people whose idea of "sports" is throwing a dollar on the random-number Super Bowl pool at the office.

The sites in question are bold-faced gambling, offering the worst payoffs this side of a slot machine, and their omnipresent ads are a disgrace. The last thing OOTP needs to do is get into bed with them. JMO.

ETA: I like the guy in the FanDuel football ad who says "Sundays are a lot more interesting for me now".

A) So…you don't actually like football, is that it?

B) You've won a whopping $349. Settle down, bro.

Honorable_Pawn · 11-22-2015, 09:39 PM

As a gambler...

No.

But maybe yes.

Go for it.

Honorable_Pawn · 11-22-2015, 09:40 PM

View Poll Results: Do you play fantasy MLB with Draft Kings or FanDuel?
Draft Kings	12	23.53%
FanDuel	3	5.88%
Both	0	0%
Neither	36	70.59%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

11-21-2015, 12:07 PM	#83
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,004	I am surprised by the very strong opinions offered on the subject. I do not like telling people what they can and cannot do with their money. I do not like telling a capitalist that they may or may not a particular business. I do not like telling Americans that they may not indulge in practices that are extremely common in most every other part of the world. I do not like like imposing a code of morality on other people's conduct. Just because I do not like it doesn't mean that I will flinch from doing so. There are certain things that I find beyond the pale. Some of these bad things are silly, like the DH and astroturf. Others are bedrock principles of civilization, like child sacrifice and cannibalism. Between these extremes are a few things that I find reprehensible. One thing that I find reprehensible is for a professional sport to allow any association with gambling. I think it is unethical to bet on baseball games if a person is a player, manager, or member of a professional club. I think it is unethical to bet on the statistical output of baseball games, if a person is involved in baseball. I think it is unethical to accept marketing dollars in exchange for goods and services if you are a player, coach, owner, or league. I believe that punishment for these actions must be savage, complete, unyielding, and eternal. I am confident these actions are wrong and I am willing to write my ethical beliefs into Law. I am ready to impose my ethics on other people using the law enforcement powers of the State. Last edited by Raidergoo; 11-21-2015 at 12:09 PM.

11-21-2015, 03:38 PM	#85
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	This thread confirms something I've felt for a long time. Fantasy sports players and sports management sim players are very different groups for the most part. I remember years ago trying to get some people I know who are in to fantasy sports interested in OOTP. They were mostly not interested with some being outright hostile to the idea. The hostility bewildered me. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

11-21-2015, 03:39 PM	#86
swoboda All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guarding The Line Posts: 1,205	Still no PS Given that there are limited resources to improve OOTPBB, I would vote for those resources to be used on improving other things __________________ "...If you want to look ahead to the bottom of the ninth, the Mets will be sending up Buddy Harrelson, Jerry Buchek , and Don Bosch, we'll be right back after this word from Rheingold Beer" The late great Lindsey Nelson

11-21-2015, 08:55 PM	#90
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 10,703	I just added a "neither" option as I think it's important to see the % of us that would never use it. I don't mind OOTP spending some time on this if these sites throw a million dollars OOTP's way as they seem to love to spend their money on advertising, but I'd hope OOTP would reinvest that money into features more of us would want. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project)

11-20-2015, 10:36 PM	#82
kevrock Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 159	As a yearly buyer and evangelist for OOTP (just recruited a friend to our online league and he loves it!), this is maybe the one direction for the franchise that would seriously seriously concern me.

11-21-2015, 03:05 PM	#84
glenmere14 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 248	No. Zero interest

11-21-2015, 04:14 PM	#87
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,002	incase you guys haven't heard that both those organizations are being sued. Well I should say the organizations that are promoting them and sponsoring the online stuff like that. From an attorney friend of mine said that based on their filing it seems to have some merit to their claim. Based on other class action court cases. I wouldn't expect these sites to last much longer

11-21-2015, 10:35 PM	#91
kevrock Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 159	Neither already has 35% of the vote after an hour and a half.

11-22-2015, 04:53 PM	#92
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,383 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I've never really enjoyed "fantasy" because it lacks the simulation-depth of games such as this (random people stuck together for stats accumulation? pass) and also lacks the analytical aspect of gambling on actual games. It's a worthless concept for people whose idea of "sports" is throwing a dollar on the random-number Super Bowl pool at the office. The sites in question are bold-faced gambling, offering the worst payoffs this side of a slot machine, and their omnipresent ads are a disgrace. The last thing OOTP needs to do is get into bed with them. JMO. ETA: I like the guy in the FanDuel football ad who says "Sundays are a lot more interesting for me now". A) So…you don't actually like football, is that it? B) You've won a whopping $349. Settle down, bro. Last edited by Amazin69; 11-22-2015 at 04:56 PM.

11-22-2015, 09:39 PM	#93
Honorable_Pawn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,407	As a gambler... No. But maybe yes. Go for it. __________________ PBA Quickstart for OOTP Background Images Collection All PBA games broadcast live on Steam.

11-22-2015, 09:40 PM	#94
Honorable_Pawn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,407	__________________ PBA Quickstart for OOTP Background Images Collection All PBA games broadcast live on Steam.