Does anyone think there should be an Agent Mode?

TheMaus2 · 11-11-2015, 08:07 PM

I, for one, would think it would be awesome.

RchW · 11-11-2015, 08:32 PM

No, but that's why we have the forums; we can say yea and nay to our hearts content.

TomVeal · 11-11-2015, 09:31 PM

A game about being a sports agent would be fascinating, but I doubt that it would graft well onto OOTP.

RchW · 11-11-2015, 09:40 PM

There's just not enough stuff in it. In order to make the agent part interesting you would have to have way too much bad stuff happening. It would be a caricature.

IRL most agents do their job well and stay in the background. Quick without cheating and looking it up name the top ten baseball agents.

Kent814 · 11-11-2015, 10:25 PM

The only agent anyone knows is Scott Boras and not for good reasons

ihatenames · 11-12-2015, 12:34 AM

I think it would get pretty boring quick. There wouldn't be a ton to do during the season and the majority of the game would negotiating contracts which would lose it's appeal fast in my opinion.

Wolverine Studies experimented with the idea with their basketball game a number of years ago and the idea was pulled from the game during beta testing simply because it wasn't very interesting.

ohiodevil · 11-12-2015, 09:39 AM

Only if said game/mode was based on the life of "Ari Gold"

But in all honesty, I agree with the last few comments, it would be fun for maybe a few hours, but then it would get very tedious and lose it's luster rather quick.

Now maybe if they added an OPTIONAL Agent Factor to the game, where each player has an agent and you have to deal with different types of agents (i.e. Rich Paul, Scott Boras, ect...) that could make for a fun extra layer when negotiating with players.

r0nster · 11-12-2015, 09:44 AM

perhaps if it had an option to be turned on. But that would take time for programing. However with the negotiations with $$$ aspect with player could be said that your negotiating with the agent on behalf of player.

SirMichaelJordan · 11-12-2015, 10:15 AM

I would rather see agents implemented in the game with different personalities and such and you as the GM/Manager have to negotiate with them.

I do believe you can build a good game around a sports agent concept (business text sims like gamebiz 3 is a good game about making video games) but I am not sure if OOTP is the platform for something like this lol.

MBarrett · 11-12-2015, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

I would rather see agents implemented in the game with different personalities and such and you as the GM/Manager have to negotiate with them.

This would be interesting. To go along with a player's Loyalty/Greed rating, you'd have to consider the Agent's personality and his desire to see his client "test the market".

Assos · 11-12-2015, 12:53 PM

I would like the player's personalities worked on a little more with more of a greed/ eager to play factor in. The agent mode can wait.

jpeters1734 · 11-12-2015, 01:37 PM

I think adding agents would be a redundant and unnecessary addition. I see agents already represented in the game,via the greed trait. I see the loyalty and desire to win traits as the player's influence on his agent regarding where he wants to play.

SirMichaelJordan · 11-12-2015, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

I think adding agents would be a redundant and unnecessary addition. I see agents already represented in the game,via the greed trait. I see the loyalty and desire to win traits as the player's influence on his agent regarding where he wants to play.

I disagree as that is the player's traits. Agents would add another layer to negotiations, news articles and relationships if added (Agent A dislikes GM B)

Those player traits also effect a players's personality, I am sure some of the slimiest agents have humble clients...

jpeters1734 · 11-12-2015, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

I disagree as that is the player's traits. Agents would add another layer to negotiations, news articles and relationships if added (Agent A dislikes GM B)

Those player traits also effect a players's personality, I am sure some of the slimiest agents have humble clients...

That's how it's represented in the game but now how it should be viewed. A greedy player will hire a greedy agent.

SirMichaelJordan · 11-12-2015, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

That's how it's represented in the game but now how it should be viewed. A greedy player will hire a greedy agent.

Not necessarily, a greedy agent can also be a terrible negotiator. I don't think it's that black and white. A player would hire someone who is good at his job. A greedy agent with 0 patience would probably not get you the best deal possible.

It's not a must have feature but it will add more personality to the game.

jpeters1734 · 11-12-2015, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

Not necessarily, a greedy agent can also be a terrible negotiator.

Then the player will fire him and hire someone else. Maybe that's why it takes some guys till the preseason to sign.

SirMichaelJordan · 11-12-2015, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

Then the player will fire him and hire someone else. Maybe that's why it takes some guys till the preseason to sign.

We can act as if that is whats happening but I don't think that the game is actually simulating that lol. I also don't think the turnover rate for agents are that high.

Assos · 11-12-2015, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

We can act as if that is whats happening but I don't think that the game is actually simulating that lol. I also don't think the turnover rate for agents are that high.

Generally, most agents do a good job and turn over is real low. It is the wining and dining that you would need to woo a player to your side. Strippers, bling-bling, cars, promises that you can not fulfill, just not really what I want out of a game like this.

ohiodevil · 11-12-2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Assos

Generally, most agents do a good job and turn over is real low. It is the wining and dining that you would need to woo a player to your side. Strippers, bling-bling, cars, promises that you can not fulfill, just not really what I want out of a game like this.

They're saving that function for the secret College Football and Basketball projects

SirMichaelJordan · 11-12-2015, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Assos

Generally, most agents do a good job and turn over is real low. It is the wining and dining that you would need to woo a player to your side. Strippers, bling-bling, cars, promises that you can not fulfill, just not really what I want out of a game like this.

That's why its not as black and white as a "greedy player will hire a greedy agent" or why a terrible negotiator would even be employed in the first place. None of those relationship factors need to be in the game though.

A specific football game (soccer) has player personalities and agents with their own personalities and everything works well.

11-11-2015, 08:07 PM	#1
TheMaus2 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The OOTP Forums. Always. Posts: 1,949 Blog Entries: 16	Does anyone think there should be an Agent Mode? I, for one, would think it would be awesome. __________________ I write a monthly newsletter on the Food Baseball Association. I also listen to music no one's ever heard of in hopes of looking cool and alternative.

11-11-2015, 08:32 PM	#2
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	No, but that's why we have the forums; we can say yea and nay to our hearts content. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

11-11-2015, 09:40 PM	#4
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	There's just not enough stuff in it. In order to make the agent part interesting you would have to have way too much bad stuff happening. It would be a caricature. IRL most agents do their job well and stay in the background. Quick without cheating and looking it up name the top ten baseball agents. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

11-12-2015, 12:34 AM	#6
ihatenames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rockford Posts: 2,535	I think it would get pretty boring quick. There wouldn't be a ton to do during the season and the majority of the game would negotiating contracts which would lose it's appeal fast in my opinion. Wolverine Studies experimented with the idea with their basketball game a number of years ago and the idea was pulled from the game during beta testing simply because it wasn't very interesting. __________________ New Album coming soon!

11-12-2015, 10:15 AM	#9
SirMichaelJordan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,629	Does anyone think there should be an Agent Mode? I would rather see agents implemented in the game with different personalities and such and you as the GM/Manager have to negotiate with them. I do believe you can build a good game around a sports agent concept (business text sims like gamebiz 3 is a good game about making video games) but I am not sure if OOTP is the platform for something like this lol. Last edited by SirMichaelJordan; 11-12-2015 at 10:18 AM.

11-11-2015, 09:31 PM	#3
TomVeal All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Spanaway, Washington Posts: 1,181	A game about being a sports agent would be fascinating, but I doubt that it would graft well onto OOTP.

11-11-2015, 10:25 PM	#5
Kent814 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 650	The only agent anyone knows is Scott Boras and not for good reasons

11-12-2015, 09:39 AM	#7
ohiodevil OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Rocky River, Ohio Posts: 2,392	Only if said game/mode was based on the life of "Ari Gold" But in all honesty, I agree with the last few comments, it would be fun for maybe a few hours, but then it would get very tedious and lose it's luster rather quick. Now maybe if they added an OPTIONAL Agent Factor to the game, where each player has an agent and you have to deal with different types of agents (i.e. Rich Paul, Scott Boras, ect...) that could make for a fun extra layer when negotiating with players.

11-12-2015, 09:44 AM	#8
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,002	perhaps if it had an option to be turned on. But that would take time for programing. However with the negotiations with $$$ aspect with player could be said that your negotiating with the agent on behalf of player.

11-12-2015, 12:53 PM	#11
Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,772	I would like the player's personalities worked on a little more with more of a greed/ eager to play factor in. The agent mode can wait.

11-12-2015, 01:37 PM	#12
jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 5,623	I think adding agents would be a redundant and unnecessary addition. I see agents already represented in the game,via the greed trait. I see the loyalty and desire to win traits as the player's influence on his agent regarding where he wants to play. __________________ "Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet