What aging speed do you use?

Habsfan18 · 03-07-2015, 04:49 PM

I know, many will say the default 1.000 is the most accurate, and maybe so. But I've noticed a lot of top stars decline rapidly as early as 29-30 in my OOTP games, and I'd like to stay away from that. Again, I get that it may be realistic in some cases, but I'd like to see a players prime last until 33-34 at least..rather than 29-30.

I've experimented with .850 and the results were a bit better, but many stars were still flaming out after only 6-7 year careers (and out of the Majors completely by 31-32 in some cases).

So I was just wondering, which aging speed do you use? I've read some people go as low as .250..but that seems too drastic of a change IMO.

Also, is it safe to change aging speed in the MLB quickstart? Or only for fictional and historical setups?

Thanks

Honorable_Pawn · 03-07-2015, 06:47 PM

I go with Marcus on this one. I keep it at default so that the program executes as designed. I trust the "fun-factor" of default.

BCStone · 03-07-2015, 07:07 PM

I'm quite happy with .750 aging speed. Prime years seem to be in that 24-25 to 32-34 year old range while continuing to be productive into late 30's for the star players. Most of the Superstar's retire around 38-39. a very small % 40-41. I really wasn't happy with the default setting but that's just me.

.750 aging for both batters and pitchers. ( Star Pitchers seem to last until 40-41)
1.000 dev speed for both pitchers and batters

This is for fictional league.

BCStone · 03-07-2015, 07:26 PM

This is one of my all time favorite players. I play stats only and traded for him thinking I was getting a decent bat with a little pop. I was in desperate need of a leadoff hitter that could get on base. I wanted more speed but he was the only one I could find with the kind of OBP so I sacrificed the speed for his on base ability. What a surprise he turned out to be. A very sad day for me when he retired. Anyway my point is this is with the .750 aging speed so you can see what to expect.

darkcloud4579 · 03-07-2015, 07:26 PM

Somewhere between .150 and .400

I like seeing older players actually play until they are old. But this thread might convince me to go upwards. I've played this way for years though.

The Game · 03-07-2015, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCStone

I'm quite happy with .750 aging speed. Prime years seem to be in that 24-25 to 32-34 year old range while continuing to be productive into late 30's for the star players. Most of the Superstar's retire around 38-39. a very small % 40-41. I really wasn't happy with the default setting but that's just me.

.750 aging for both batters and pitchers. ( Star Pitchers seem to last until 40-41)
1.000 dev speed for both pitchers and batters

This is for fictional league.

What he said.

SirMichaelJordan · 03-07-2015, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCStone

I'm quite happy with .750 aging speed. Prime years seem to be in that 24-25 to 32-34 year old range while continuing to be productive into late 30's for the star players. Most of the Superstar's retire around 38-39. a very small % 40-41. I really wasn't happy with the default setting but that's just me.

.750 aging for both batters and pitchers. ( Star Pitchers seem to last until 40-41)
1.000 dev speed for both pitchers and batters

This is for fictional league.

Funny thing is I get the same results with defaults.

Im convince other things play into effect rather than just those settings.

mpejkrm · 03-07-2015, 09:43 PM

I play with .250 for hitters and .300 for pitchers. Most guys hit the decline around age 32, sometimes later if they are elite and sometimes earlier if they suck. I like it.

Honorable_Pawn · 03-07-2015, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpejkrm

I play with .250 for hitters and .300 for pitchers. Most guys hit the decline around age 32, sometimes later if they are elite and sometimes earlier if they suck. I like it.

That sounds kinda cool. I've never tried it. Keeps the inventory of the players turning over.

ihatenames · 03-07-2015, 11:10 PM

I'm happy with 1.00. I've had a few guys that peaked in their mid 20s and fell off in their early twenties. I currently have a 6 time Cy Young Award winning starter at 40 and still throwing 98. I just had closer who finally hit the wall at 41 and fell off the earth. I think Markus got it right so I don't feel the need to change it. I've seen a few guys stay productive into their 40s but most are done by their mid to late 30s. Some fringe guys go earlier. I think Markus has it pretty close to right.

BusterKing · 03-08-2015, 05:53 AM

I'm using one that's way too fast, I'm already 61.

Honorable_Pawn · 03-08-2015, 09:23 AM

Face it with honor, my friend.

SirMichaelJordan · 03-08-2015, 07:37 PM

One thing I do notice is that regardless of settings, once the league start replacing real players with fictional players, the fictional players will have a hard time playing in a lot of games compared to real life. This is a lil irrelevant but I should point that out as this will screw up any long term test looking for realistic settings.

Players sitting out of games more often has nothing to do with fatigue or injuries though, the AI just like to rotate players around different positions considering mostly all generated fictional players can play everywhere and have multiple position ratings. The more fatigue and injuries you have in your save will be even worse, Its probably best to turn those off in any test.

megamanmatt · 03-09-2015, 12:54 PM

.65 for batters, .6 for pitchers

03-07-2015, 04:49 PM	#1
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,238	What aging speed do you use? I know, many will say the default 1.000 is the most accurate, and maybe so. But I've noticed a lot of top stars decline rapidly as early as 29-30 in my OOTP games, and I'd like to stay away from that. Again, I get that it may be realistic in some cases, but I'd like to see a players prime last until 33-34 at least..rather than 29-30. I've experimented with .850 and the results were a bit better, but many stars were still flaming out after only 6-7 year careers (and out of the Majors completely by 31-32 in some cases). So I was just wondering, which aging speed do you use? I've read some people go as low as .250..but that seems too drastic of a change IMO. Also, is it safe to change aging speed in the MLB quickstart? Or only for fictional and historical setups? Thanks

03-07-2015, 06:47 PM	#2
Honorable_Pawn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,407	I go with Marcus on this one. I keep it at default so that the program executes as designed. I trust the "fun-factor" of default. __________________ PBA Quickstart for OOTP Background Images Collection All PBA games broadcast live on Steam.

03-07-2015, 07:07 PM	#3
BCStone Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 108	I'm quite happy with .750 aging speed. Prime years seem to be in that 24-25 to 32-34 year old range while continuing to be productive into late 30's for the star players. Most of the Superstar's retire around 38-39. a very small % 40-41. I really wasn't happy with the default setting but that's just me. .750 aging for both batters and pitchers. ( Star Pitchers seem to last until 40-41) 1.000 dev speed for both pitchers and batters This is for fictional league. Last edited by BCStone; 03-07-2015 at 07:10 PM.

03-07-2015, 07:26 PM	#4
BCStone Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 108	This is one of my all time favorite players. I play stats only and traded for him thinking I was getting a decent bat with a little pop. I was in desperate need of a leadoff hitter that could get on base. I wanted more speed but he was the only one I could find with the kind of OBP so I sacrificed the speed for his on base ability. What a surprise he turned out to be. A very sad day for me when he retired. Anyway my point is this is with the .750 aging speed so you can see what to expect. Attached Images Last edited by BCStone; 03-07-2015 at 07:27 PM.

03-07-2015, 07:26 PM	#5
darkcloud4579 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,308 Blog Entries: 32	Somewhere between .150 and .400 I like seeing older players actually play until they are old. But this thread might convince me to go upwards. I've played this way for years though. __________________ Godfather of Fast-Sim OOTP My Mods: GMExcel 24 Major League Women's Baseball (OOTP24) quickstart Indian Premier League \| 300+ years of baseball quickstart \| Expatriate League quickstart \| Off-Field Injuries Update \| Women's Name File for OOTP \| My (outdated) market calculator & financial spreadsheets

03-07-2015, 09:43 PM	#8
mpejkrm All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 951	I play with .250 for hitters and .300 for pitchers. Most guys hit the decline around age 32, sometimes later if they are elite and sometimes earlier if they suck. I like it.

03-07-2015, 11:10 PM	#10
ihatenames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rockford Posts: 2,535	I'm happy with 1.00. I've had a few guys that peaked in their mid 20s and fell off in their early twenties. I currently have a 6 time Cy Young Award winning starter at 40 and still throwing 98. I just had closer who finally hit the wall at 41 and fell off the earth. I think Markus got it right so I don't feel the need to change it. I've seen a few guys stay productive into their 40s but most are done by their mid to late 30s. Some fringe guys go earlier. I think Markus has it pretty close to right. __________________ New Album coming soon!

03-08-2015, 05:53 AM	#11
BusterKing Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,369	I'm using one that's way too fast, I'm already 61.

03-08-2015, 09:23 AM	#12
Honorable_Pawn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,407	Face it with honor, my friend. __________________ PBA Quickstart for OOTP Background Images Collection All PBA games broadcast live on Steam.

03-08-2015, 07:37 PM	#13
SirMichaelJordan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,629	What aging speed do you use? One thing I do notice is that regardless of settings, once the league start replacing real players with fictional players, the fictional players will have a hard time playing in a lot of games compared to real life. This is a lil irrelevant but I should point that out as this will screw up any long term test looking for realistic settings. Players sitting out of games more often has nothing to do with fatigue or injuries though, the AI just like to rotate players around different positions considering mostly all generated fictional players can play everywhere and have multiple position ratings. The more fatigue and injuries you have in your save will be even worse, Its probably best to turn those off in any test. Last edited by SirMichaelJordan; 03-08-2015 at 07:40 PM.

03-09-2015, 12:54 PM	#14
megamanmatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 2,416	.65 for batters, .6 for pitchers __________________ "The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes; The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil; the Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music; The Oakland Raiders moved to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland, no one in Los Angeles seemed to notice." Note to self: Princess Kenny was really off-putting.