Two quick things from 90 minutes of playing

rudel.dietrich · 05-05-2011, 01:38 AM

First off I want to say how amazing this is. It seems like that all the right decisions were made in decided what to put into the game and what was decided to leave out.
It really is quite an amazing effort.

Two things I noticed though right off.

The first is what I am going to call a bug. I did a 30 team fictional league without an inaugural draft. I selected a team (the Nashville Pistons) and began my player evaluation. I noticed that one of my SPs was a very good pitcher and was selected to be my #1 pitcher. However, when I noticed his expected role I saw that it was 'bullpen assignment'
So I scrolled over to look at his endurance at it was a 3/10
I switched over to 1-100 ratings and it was a 27/100. Hardly starter material. So I changed his role to MR and made one of my MR's with an 8 endurance a SP.

However, the problem is that whenever I ask the CPU to auto do my rotation it puts him back as a SP even though he is still set as an MR.
I decided to look over all the players in the league and I see that other pitchers around the league are set to be SPs despite having very low endurance. I figure this has the potential to be a problem for simulation accuracy.
So far it is the only problem I see.

The other thing I noticed is an omission. Unless I am missing it, I do not see a team developmental report.
This is absolutely 100% vital if you are going to play your game in career mode. Otherwise you don't really have a way to track the development of your minor leagues.
This is the only critical thing that I see the game needs. It should definitely be in update #1. Without it the drafting and watching your prospects grow aspect of the game is not going to be all that fun.

Thanks for putting this out and I am going to quit typing and go dig in and play some more!

rudel.dietrich · 05-05-2011, 01:47 AM

Actually, now that I think about it. I think the reports tab from OOTP 11 should just be copied directly over.
Salary report, ratings reports, injury report and developmental report.
Since this game relies on touch instead of mouse and keyboard it is a lot harder to navigate around. Being able to go to one screen for example and see your entire teams salaries would save a lot of time.

Also, in the 'it would be nice' column I think I can add top prospects for both your team and the top 100 prospects for your league. But that can come later.
I consider the reports to be critical. Especially the developmental report.

Mike D · 05-05-2011, 02:26 AM

Two things that I noticed after playing one game. Quick-play to inning is needed. I quick play it till the 7th inning, one inning at a time is not fun. The other thing, which maybe I over looked it, once I pinch-hit for a pitcher, it'd be nice to see what the opposing teams has due up so I can see if I need to bring in a lefty or righty.

Sebastian Palkowski · 05-05-2011, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

Two things that I noticed after playing one game. Quick-play to inning is needed. I quick play it till the 7th inning, one inning at a time is not fun. The other thing, which maybe I over looked it, once I pinch-hit for a pitcher, it'd be nice to see what the opposing teams has due up so I can see if I need to bring in a lefty or righty.

Quick-play to inning: Believe me, we tried but there is not enough space on the screen. If we find a way to add it, we will (the Universal App should work, so at least on the iPad it would be available).

I will take a look into the second point.

Mike D · 05-05-2011, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by palli

Quick-play to inning: Believe me, we tried but there is not enough space on the screen. If we find a way to add it, we will (the Universal App should work, so at least on the iPad it would be available).

I will take a look into the second point.

Thanks!! It's fun so far, you got my 5 stars.

Mike D · 05-05-2011, 02:58 AM

Two more quick things (maybe I should start my own thread):

How do you double switch? Maybe injuries are a bit high. Two games, two starting pitchers go down. And no, I'm playing as the 2004 Cubs.

Markus Heinsohn · 05-05-2011, 03:39 AM

Regarding the SP issue, at such a low endurance rating, the player still is able to start, the low limit is 25. However, the pitcher will not be as good as his ratings might suggest given his low endurance. But in your case the AI obviously thinks it's worth a shot and uses him as a starter.

Regarding the reports, you got a point. I am certain we will add these sometime in the future!

Markus Heinsohn · 05-05-2011, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

Two more quick things (maybe I should start my own thread):

How do you double switch? Maybe injuries are a bit high. Two games, two starting pitchers go down. And no, I'm playing as the 2004 Cubs.

Double switches should work the way as in OOTP to be honest. Insert a pitcher into a different lineup slot (using the button with the two blue arrows on the right of the lineup screen) and then insert a position player in the #9 slot.

Injuries have actually been toned down, you're suffering the dreaded small sample size issue

AirmenSmith · 05-05-2011, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Regarding the SP issue, at such a low endurance rating, the player still is able to start, the low limit is 25. However, the pitcher will not be as good as his ratings might suggest given his low endurance. But in your case the AI obviously thinks it's worth a shot and uses him as a starter.

Regarding the reports, you got a point. I am certain we will add these sometime in the future!

Any chance of a force start, for all players, option in an update?

cody8200 · 05-05-2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

Two more quick things (maybe I should start my own thread):

How do you double switch? Maybe injuries are a bit high. Two games, two starting pitchers go down. And no, I'm playing as the 2004 Cubs.

Actually that exact thing happened to this year's 2011 Cubs. Randy Wells and Andrew Cashner (our 4 and 5 starter's) went down for what appears to be about 2 months each. Real life hurts.

05-05-2011, 02:26 AM	#3
Mike D Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a van, down by the river Posts: 2,789	Two things that I noticed after playing one game. Quick-play to inning is needed. I quick play it till the 7th inning, one inning at a time is not fun. The other thing, which maybe I over looked it, once I pinch-hit for a pitcher, it'd be nice to see what the opposing teams has due up so I can see if I need to bring in a lefty or righty. __________________ Sometimes the best laid plans will never get you laid the way you plan.

05-05-2011, 02:58 AM	#6
Mike D Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a van, down by the river Posts: 2,789	Two more quick things (maybe I should start my own thread): How do you double switch? Maybe injuries are a bit high. Two games, two starting pitchers go down. And no, I'm playing as the 2004 Cubs. __________________ Sometimes the best laid plans will never get you laid the way you plan.

05-05-2011, 03:39 AM	#7
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,739	Regarding the SP issue, at such a low endurance rating, the player still is able to start, the low limit is 25. However, the pitcher will not be as good as his ratings might suggest given his low endurance. But in your case the AI obviously thinks it's worth a shot and uses him as a starter. Regarding the reports, you got a point. I am certain we will add these sometime in the future! __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

05-05-2011, 01:38 AM	#1
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Two quick things from 90 minutes of playing First off I want to say how amazing this is. It seems like that all the right decisions were made in decided what to put into the game and what was decided to leave out. It really is quite an amazing effort. Two things I noticed though right off. The first is what I am going to call a bug. I did a 30 team fictional league without an inaugural draft. I selected a team (the Nashville Pistons) and began my player evaluation. I noticed that one of my SPs was a very good pitcher and was selected to be my #1 pitcher. However, when I noticed his expected role I saw that it was 'bullpen assignment' So I scrolled over to look at his endurance at it was a 3/10 I switched over to 1-100 ratings and it was a 27/100. Hardly starter material. So I changed his role to MR and made one of my MR's with an 8 endurance a SP. However, the problem is that whenever I ask the CPU to auto do my rotation it puts him back as a SP even though he is still set as an MR. I decided to look over all the players in the league and I see that other pitchers around the league are set to be SPs despite having very low endurance. I figure this has the potential to be a problem for simulation accuracy. So far it is the only problem I see. The other thing I noticed is an omission. Unless I am missing it, I do not see a team developmental report. This is absolutely 100% vital if you are going to play your game in career mode. Otherwise you don't really have a way to track the development of your minor leagues. This is the only critical thing that I see the game needs. It should definitely be in update #1. Without it the drafting and watching your prospects grow aspect of the game is not going to be all that fun. Thanks for putting this out and I am going to quit typing and go dig in and play some more!

05-05-2011, 01:47 AM	#2
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Actually, now that I think about it. I think the reports tab from OOTP 11 should just be copied directly over. Salary report, ratings reports, injury report and developmental report. Since this game relies on touch instead of mouse and keyboard it is a lot harder to navigate around. Being able to go to one screen for example and see your entire teams salaries would save a lot of time. Also, in the 'it would be nice' column I think I can add top prospects for both your team and the top 100 prospects for your league. But that can come later. I consider the reports to be critical. Especially the developmental report.