Possible issue with creating free agents

phenom · 04-07-2020, 10:54 AM

I was messing around and created a fictional league with no inaugural draft. Once created there were no free agents so I went ahead and created some. The only thing I remember changing was the quality of created players, which I selected as "scrubs."

I had the game create 500 players but many of them(maybe 10%) were 3.5-4.0 star guys (OSA scouting) that were much, much better than scrubs. I was hoping for a bunch of 2.0 star guys (at best).

Is there something more I should know about creating free agents that would allow this?

Curve Ball Dave · 04-07-2020, 12:42 PM

The players are rated against each other, so if one scrub is a little better than the average scrub he'll be rated higher. If player creation more or less followed a normal distribution (bell) curve then you're going to have below average, average, and above average players even if the above average players aren't really that good in absolute terms.

phenom · 04-07-2020, 08:27 PM

Then why are there options for player quality at all on free agent creation?

Curve Ball Dave · 04-07-2020, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by phenom

Then why are there options for player quality at all on free agent creation?

Because the assumption is you're not creating hundreds of the same quality player for the entire league. If you added those same players you created in your original post to a more talented pool, they were have lower star ratings because they are now rated against those better players. I went through the same thing you did when I did this once. I created a pool of fictional minor league players, and the upper tier were 5 star guys. Their actual ratings weren't really that high. Once I imported the historical teams and dumped those guys into the draft pool those once 5 star guys because 2 star guys because rather than being rated against the original pool, there were rated against all of the historical Major League players. Ratings are relative, not absolute. Any player created or imported is rated against everyone else. You can create 10 fully developed All Stars to add to a large pool, but if you make an entire pool of All Stars, then no one is an All Star.

Rain King · 04-07-2020, 10:22 PM

I think it is likely randomizing each player quality with the "base" being scrub level. So, when you create a bunch it is still going to create some good players...there shouldn't be many though.

You could probably lower the creation modifiers before creating the players to make it less likely.

phenom · 04-09-2020, 08:53 AM

All right. Good to know. Thanks.

04-07-2020, 10:54 AM	#1
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,711	Possible issue with creating free agents I was messing around and created a fictional league with no inaugural draft. Once created there were no free agents so I went ahead and created some. The only thing I remember changing was the quality of created players, which I selected as "scrubs." I had the game create 500 players but many of them(maybe 10%) were 3.5-4.0 star guys (OSA scouting) that were much, much better than scrubs. I was hoping for a bunch of 2.0 star guys (at best). Is there something more I should know about creating free agents that would allow this? __________________ reported

04-07-2020, 12:42 PM	#2
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,271	The players are rated against each other, so if one scrub is a little better than the average scrub he'll be rated higher. If player creation more or less followed a normal distribution (bell) curve then you're going to have below average, average, and above average players even if the above average players aren't really that good in absolute terms. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

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phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,711	Then why are there options for player quality at all on free agent creation? __________________ reported

04-09-2020, 08:53 AM	#6
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,711	All right. Good to know. Thanks. __________________ reported

04-07-2020, 10:22 PM	#5
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,108	I think it is likely randomizing each player quality with the "base" being scrub level. So, when you create a bunch it is still going to create some good players...there shouldn't be many though. You could probably lower the creation modifiers before creating the players to make it less likely.