Missions + AH = Proof The Game NEEDS Trading Function - Page 2

Westheim · 08-20-2019, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

2. There needs to be a way to get more historical cards into circulation. It's just too difficult to get usable historical cards except from the AH. I don't know the answer for this, but I feel it's just too stinking difficult to get historical cards from packs. Maybe the answer to this is some sort of "historical pack" that would guarantee one or more non-live cards. I don't know what it'd have to cost but it's something I hope OOTP considers. (granted - perhaps OOTP *likes* the difficulty in obtaining historical cards, since it might drive people to purchase more packs... what the users want isn't always what the business wants!).

My answer is "tournament rewards". Those would wash extra packs / cards into circulation, and with the right set of "you must be this tall / so small" criteria, everybody could have a real shot at a slice of the pie.

That's what the game needs. Tournaments!

dkgo · 08-20-2019, 10:28 AM

I sure hope that tournaments put packs into circulation instead of random special cards. Otherwise they are basically just doubling down on missions where specific cards within a category shoot up in price.

eldur00 · 08-20-2019, 12:20 PM

A pack with an increased chance at a historical player or a pack with a guaranteed historical player would probably do the trick. Give them as tournament rewards and give one to the WS winner. Who cares about the rich getting richer when there's no cards to buy anyway ?
I've been a bit disappointed with the "special packs slot" in general since PT19. Putting the diamond pack there for 2 days every 2-3 months is...not optimal.

Ty Cobb · 08-20-2019, 12:57 PM

There are a lot of very good ideas being put forth here. This is very different from how these threads have going on in the past! Hopefully someone’s watching.

Nero · 08-20-2019, 12:59 PM

To the original idea.....

The biggest thing that the AH does, it take coin out of the economy, with the 10% tax. That's great for OOTP, because it encourages people to buy more points. If you had a trade system, I think you'd have to have the same sort of tiered tax structure to have the same impact, and yes, it really is needed.

The idea of a historical pack would be great, I'd enjoy opening those and getting more historical cards than live ones. Taking that thought to the next level, for accomplishments you recive 1k PP and up, give the points and a pack, that would help more packs to be opened, and more cards ending up on the market.

Findest2001 · 08-20-2019, 08:07 PM

I love the pack only idea. there's no way Im giving the morons my hard earned pp paying %12000 of the last 7 because they have the only card I need for a mission. However, my pack opening is impossible because of issues with animations that the devs have completely ignored. 3 tickets in six weeks and still only one generic response that was not followed up on. And yes I posted in bug reports forum as well as opened tickets in their old AND new ticket system. Their customer service has absolutely tanked on OOTP20. I was really amped for this iteration after well over a decade of playing ootp games, but they've dropped the ball big-time from a customer service standpoint. I really only log in to check my PT records because I can't buy overpriced cards on ah and can't do packs without the game crashing so it's basically useless.

BigRed75 · 08-20-2019, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

I sure hope that tournaments put packs into circulation instead of random special cards. Otherwise they are basically just doubling down on missions where specific cards within a category shoot up in price.

This. I get the allure of special cards, but they will not help the overall game economy more than putting more packs (especially into the hands of people who would not ordinarily purchase packs) would.

And when they give out packs for prizes, it should be meaningful. I'm talking like 10-20 packs, not 1-2.

Westheim · 08-21-2019, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRed75

And when they give out packs for prizes, it should be meaningful. I'm talking like 10-20 packs, not 1-2.

I think there's a healthy middle ground somewhere in there, but there'd be a lot to be said about making any sort of reward at least one gold pack.

Ty Cobb · 08-23-2019, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OMGPuppies

I can't remember the last time I got a useful card from packs.

Completed a mission and burned 4K to open 5 packs. Third one I opened had Snell & Kluber. Also picked up 4 mission important cards out of the packs...

It does happen...just not as often as I wished...

bailey · 08-23-2019, 02:55 PM

There already is a trading function -- it's called Discord. There you can promote the players you want to sell and offer for the players you want to buy. How is that not trading, just because it uses the AH as a middleman?

<Pion> · 08-23-2019, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

Completed a mission and burned 4K to open 5 packs. Third one I opened had Snell & Kluber. Also picked up 4 mission important cards out of the packs...

It does happen...just not as often as I wished...

So who was the useful ones you picked up?

Ty Cobb · 08-23-2019, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by <Pion>

So who was the useful ones you picked up?

they sell well, and getting a gaggle of points is useful...at least where I come from.

One Great Matrix · 08-23-2019, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bailey

There already is a trading function -- it's called Discord. There you can promote the players you want to sell and offer for the players you want to buy. How is that not trading, just because it uses the AH as a middleman?

Well, the AH is trading but trading card-for-card direct is not built into the game. And shouldn't be. But there should be...

a max PP sell on each level of card.

Ty Cobb · 08-23-2019, 06:12 PM

By the way...I'm not the guy selling Kluber for Seventy Million...

<Pion> · 08-23-2019, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

they sell well, and getting a gaggle of points is useful...at least where I come from.

That's all I ever do with Kluber and Snell. Sell them before they're seat has a chance to get warm. At 7K and 5K, even that's disappointing for a diamond. Love seeing those diamonds come up, but cringe when it's guys like that (as well as some others like them).

Ty Cobb · 08-24-2019, 02:26 AM

Points are points. I'll take 'em, and out 'em to good use.

08-20-2019, 12:20 PM	#23
eldur00 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 506	A pack with an increased chance at a historical player or a pack with a guaranteed historical player would probably do the trick. Give them as tournament rewards and give one to the WS winner. Who cares about the rich getting richer when there's no cards to buy anyway ? I've been a bit disappointed with the "special packs slot" in general since PT19. Putting the diamond pack there for 2 days every 2-3 months is...not optimal. Last edited by eldur00; 08-20-2019 at 12:21 PM.

08-20-2019, 12:57 PM	#24
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 3,941 Blog Entries: 65	There are a lot of very good ideas being put forth here. This is very different from how these threads have going on in the past! Hopefully someone’s watching. __________________ “What’s the most you ever lost on a coin toss?” “Everyone is an atheist until Templars begin marching in the rain.” Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. Society's tolerance for violent criminals is dumbfounding. "Colonics for EVERYONE!"

08-20-2019, 08:07 PM	#26
Findest2001 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 960	I love the pack only idea. there's no way Im giving the morons my hard earned pp paying %12000 of the last 7 because they have the only card I need for a mission. However, my pack opening is impossible because of issues with animations that the devs have completely ignored. 3 tickets in six weeks and still only one generic response that was not followed up on. And yes I posted in bug reports forum as well as opened tickets in their old AND new ticket system. Their customer service has absolutely tanked on OOTP20. I was really amped for this iteration after well over a decade of playing ootp games, but they've dropped the ball big-time from a customer service standpoint. I really only log in to check my PT records because I can't buy overpriced cards on ah and can't do packs without the game crashing so it's basically useless. __________________

08-23-2019, 02:55 PM	#30
bailey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,127	There already is a trading function -- it's called Discord. There you can promote the players you want to sell and offer for the players you want to buy. How is that not trading, just because it uses the AH as a middleman? __________________

08-23-2019, 06:12 PM	#34
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 3,941 Blog Entries: 65	By the way...I'm not the guy selling Kluber for Seventy Million... __________________ “What’s the most you ever lost on a coin toss?” “Everyone is an atheist until Templars begin marching in the rain.” Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. Society's tolerance for violent criminals is dumbfounding. "Colonics for EVERYONE!"

08-20-2019, 10:28 AM	#22
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	I sure hope that tournaments put packs into circulation instead of random special cards. Otherwise they are basically just doubling down on missions where specific cards within a category shoot up in price.

08-20-2019, 12:59 PM	#25
Nero Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 206	To the original idea..... The biggest thing that the AH does, it take coin out of the economy, with the 10% tax. That's great for OOTP, because it encourages people to buy more points. If you had a trade system, I think you'd have to have the same sort of tiered tax structure to have the same impact, and yes, it really is needed. The idea of a historical pack would be great, I'd enjoy opening those and getting more historical cards than live ones. Taking that thought to the next level, for accomplishments you recive 1k PP and up, give the points and a pack, that would help more packs to be opened, and more cards ending up on the market.

08-24-2019, 02:26 AM	#36
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 3,941 Blog Entries: 65	Points are points. I'll take 'em, and out 'em to good use. __________________ “What’s the most you ever lost on a coin toss?” “Everyone is an atheist until Templars begin marching in the rain.” Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. Society's tolerance for violent criminals is dumbfounding. "Colonics for EVERYONE!"