Players Learning new positions

[Havokk]

I know during spring training players learn a new position quickly. What about the minors. Lets say a player has never played 1B and you put him at that position, how long in games will it take him to learn that position and get good at it?

What about the Majors? Same result?

[xx2khazard]

a lot of it really depends on his current ratings and if they are good enough to transfer quickly to another position.


look this is from the actual manual : OOTP follows the concept of the "defensive spectrum." The defensive spectrum is as follows: DH - 1B - LF - RF - 3B - CF - 2B - SS. Generally speaking, the further to the right, the harder the position is to play and the harder it will be to convert a player to that position. Position players can learn to play catcher, but it often takes a very long time, and they typically don't make very good ones.

[jpeters1734]

My question is, does the length of the season matter when gaining experience? Meaning, if I have an 84 game season, would it take 2 seasons to gain the same experience as a player in a 162 game season?

[TonyJ]

Originally Posted by Havokk

I know during spring training players learn a new position quickly. What about the minors. Lets say a player has never played 1B and you put him at that position, how long in games will it take him to learn that position and get good at it?

What about the Majors? Same result?

It takes about 30 games to gain a rating at the position. To actually be good at it takes a couple seasons. The minors is the perfect place to do this. Doing it at the major league level is...interesting

[rstoomeyii]

when you go into the player editor it will base their ability off of games played. i'm not 100% positive, but based off of that you need 200 games at a position to max out your ability there

[TonyJ]

Originally Posted by rstoomeyii

when you go into the player editor it will base their ability off of games played. i'm not 100% positive, but based off of that you need 200 games at a position to max out your ability there

Yep, this is accurate.

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by rstoomeyii

when you go into the player editor it will base their ability off of games played. i'm not 100% positive, but based off of that you need 200 games at a position to max out your ability there

You are saying that every game played gets 1 added to the position rating? Are you sure about that?

[kingcharlesxii]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

You are saying that every game played gets 1 added to the position rating? Are you sure about that?

No, let's say the player has a talent to be 50/100 at a position with full experience. Full experience is defined in the editor as 200, a player starts off with 0. Each game has a chance to add 1 depending on other factors I won't get into here.

Let's say a player has earned 100 of 200 experience and still has the talent to be 50/100. Since he has 50% of the experience to become his best at the position, it would display as 25/100.

[subtle]

Originally Posted by TonyJ

It takes about 30 games to gain a rating at the position. To actually be good at it takes a couple seasons. The minors is the perfect place to do this. Doing it at the major league level is...interesting

The only problem I have with positional learning is how many errors a decent infielder (someone with mediocre error rating) will make at 1B while learning the position. There's no way around it, unfortunately, but usually 1B is a position most non-Mark Reynolds players will pick-up really quickly without damaging the team too much. At most, they field a few balls out of position, ranging too far and cutting off the 2nd baseman.

Still, I'll take OOTP's method of positional learning over something like Baseball Mogul where players can never change positions. I love it when a left-handed player randomly has just enough infield skills to play third base so I can get a left-handed third baseman. It almost never happens, though.