Home | Webstore
Latest News: OOTP Hotfix 21.1.33 - OOTP 21 Available - FHM 6 Available

OOTP Baseball 21 Available Now!

  

Go Back   OOTP Developments Forums > Out of the Park Baseball 20 > OOTP 20 - Technical Support > Bug Reports Forum

Bug Reports Forum Have a bug to report? Please post here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-18-2019, 06:07 PM   #1
Curve Ball Dave
All Star Starter
 
Curve Ball Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,840
Thanks: 52
Thanked 998x in 550 posts
Historical Player Import Issues

The ratings for imported historical players are totally out of whack. Here is Hank Aaron from 1954. Current ratings based on real stats, potential based remaining years of career. Hank was good, he wasn't that good.

Offering this as example. Many other hitters, including some imported pitchers, are 100s across the board. The pitching ratings for imported pitchers seem reasonable, it's the hitting ratings are out of kilter.
Attached Images
Image 
__________________
"Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

Last edited by Curve Ball Dave; 03-18-2019 at 06:18 PM.
Curve Ball Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2019, 06:15 PM   #2
Curve Ball Dave
All Star Starter
 
Curve Ball Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,840
Thanks: 52
Thanked 998x in 550 posts
And when we based the import on his peak seasons suddenly he's a strike out king.
Attached Images
Image 
__________________
"Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.
Curve Ball Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2019, 06:50 PM   #3
AESP_pres
All Star Starter
 
AESP_pres's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Province of Quebec
Posts: 1,129
Blog Entries: 25
Thanks: 1,762
Thanked 340x in 218 posts
Is it just with random import or the same happen when you play a normal historical game? I hope not because it's the only way I play...
__________________
AESP_pres is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2019, 06:58 PM   #4
Curve Ball Dave
All Star Starter
 
Curve Ball Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,840
Thanks: 52
Thanked 998x in 550 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by AESP_pres View Post
Is it just with random import or the same happen when you play a normal historical game? I hope not because it's the only way I play...

Imports into a 2019 league. This was never a problem before when I did this in other versions. If I import a whole historical team the ratings seem pretty much in line, but not when I try individual players.
__________________
"Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.
Curve Ball Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Thank you for this post:
AESP_pres (03-18-2019)
Old 03-18-2019, 08:57 PM   #5
Curve Ball Dave
All Star Starter
 
Curve Ball Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,840
Thanks: 52
Thanked 998x in 550 posts
Two more examples. Please take note of Grover "Pete" Alexander's hitting ratings. I posted Stan Musial as another example of a Superman.
Attached Images
Image Image 
__________________
"Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

Last edited by Curve Ball Dave; 03-18-2019 at 09:00 PM.
Curve Ball Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2019, 06:00 AM   #6
Highstreet
Bat Boy
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 posts
Random Debut, neutralized stats, switched to real stats same results. Here are two examples of below average players with inflated power ratings.








Last edited by Highstreet; 03-19-2019 at 06:45 AM.
Highstreet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2019, 07:20 AM   #7
Curve Ball Dave
All Star Starter
 
Curve Ball Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,840
Thanks: 52
Thanked 998x in 550 posts
At least I'm not the only one who noticed the issue. There doesn't appear to be much interest in addressing it, however.
__________________
"Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.
Curve Ball Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2019, 11:10 AM   #8
Ktulu
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: BC
Posts: 3,429
Thanks: 1,163
Thanked 1,150x in 615 posts
How and where are you importing the player(s)?
__________________
"The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"
Ktulu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2019, 11:13 AM   #9
pstrickert
Hall Of Famer
 
pstrickert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,639
Thanks: 2,949
Thanked 3,748x in 2,107 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curve Ball Dave View Post
At least I'm not the only one who noticed the issue. There doesn't appear to be much interest in addressing it, however.
Patience, Dave. Patience.

I'm sure the development team will take a closer look as soon as they can.
pstrickert is online now   Reply With Quote
Thank you for this post:
Markus Heinsohn (03-19-2019)
Old 03-19-2019, 11:14 AM   #10
Markus Heinsohn
Developer OOTP
 
Markus Heinsohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 23,728
Thanks: 5,900
Thanked 41,777x in 6,501 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curve Ball Dave View Post
At least I'm not the only one who noticed the issue. There doesn't appear to be much interest in addressing it, however.
Huh, you just posted this!? We're not magicians

I'll have a look at this tomorrow...
Markus Heinsohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2019, 11:15 AM   #11
pstrickert
Hall Of Famer
 
pstrickert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,639
Thanks: 2,949
Thanked 3,748x in 2,107 posts
I just tried it and, yup, there's definitely a problem.
pstrickert is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2019, 11:18 AM   #12
pstrickert
Hall Of Famer
 
pstrickert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,639
Thanks: 2,949
Thanked 3,748x in 2,107 posts
I get the expected results when I import a player to a historical league. But when I import the same player to a 2019 league, I see what Dave sees -- inflated ratings.
pstrickert is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2019, 11:23 AM   #13
Curve Ball Dave
All Star Starter
 
Curve Ball Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,840
Thanks: 52
Thanked 998x in 550 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn View Post
Huh, you just posted this!? We're not magicians

I'll have a look at this tomorrow...

That's cool. I'm not expecting instant results, just an acknowledgment that the issue is noted and will be looked at.
__________________
"Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.
Curve Ball Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Thank you for this post:
Markus Heinsohn (03-20-2019)
Old 03-20-2019, 02:55 AM   #14
Markus Heinsohn
Developer OOTP
 
Markus Heinsohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 23,728
Thanks: 5,900
Thanked 41,777x in 6,501 posts
OK, I have looked at this and cannot reproduce this. I have tried the exact same things in a brand new 2019 MLB standard game, and the ratings come out just fine. So whatever it was, it looks to be fixed.

Please test this again with the update we will release later today. Thanks

Last edited by Markus Heinsohn; 03-20-2019 at 02:58 AM.
Markus Heinsohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2019, 06:51 AM   #15
Curve Ball Dave
All Star Starter
 
Curve Ball Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,840
Thanks: 52
Thanked 998x in 550 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn View Post
OK, I have looked at this and cannot reproduce this. I have tried the exact same things in a brand new 2019 MLB standard game, and the ratings come out just fine. So whatever it was, it looks to be fixed.

Please test this again with the update we will release later today. Thanks

Ugh, words a user never wants to see.


I'll try after the update and see what happens. I'll post the result.
__________________
"Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.
Curve Ball Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2019, 01:56 PM   #16
Curve Ball Dave
All Star Starter
 
Curve Ball Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,840
Thanks: 52
Thanked 998x in 550 posts
Looks like it's fixed Hank's ratings, while very high, reflect one of the greatest hitters who ever played so I'd say this is in line. The pitchers aren't super hitters anymore either. Thank you for working on this.
Attached Images
Image 
__________________
"Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.
Curve Ball Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:02 PM.

 

Major League and Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of Major League Baseball. Visit MLB.com and MiLB.com.

Officially Licensed Product – MLB Players, Inc.

Out of the Park Baseball is a registered trademark of Out of the Park Developments GmbH & Co. KG

Google Play is a trademark of Google Inc.

Apple, iPhone, iPod touch and iPad are trademarks of Apple Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries.

COPYRIGHT © 2020 OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENTS. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © 2020 Out of the Park Developments