Perfecto imperfectly noted

jim255 · 01-13-2020, 05:39 PM

I love this game, but you have to wonder sometimes. I just played the 9-17 Cubs-Reds game in my replay of the 1954 season in which Cubs lefty Paul Minner pitched a perfect game: 27 up, 27 down--no runs, hits, walks, hit batsmen, errors! But the Game Recap merely congratulated him on his no-hitter. No-hitters are relatively common in MLB, there being roughly 2-4 every season. Perfectos? Not so much.

Oh, and Minner hit a solo homer in his first AB in the Cubs 7-0 victory. But what part of a perfect game doesn't the AI (or whatever) understand? What's so hard about detecting that?

I'm guess I'm more amused than annoyed. Anyone else encounter such a head-scratcher?:

BirdWatcher · 01-13-2020, 05:48 PM

If you go into league history under accomplishments, no-hitters (sorry, not in front of game right now to screenshot any of this), is there a notation there indicating that this is a perfect game?

Just curious if this was just a failing of the game recap or if the program really did not recognize this as a perfect game.

Palaaemon · 01-13-2020, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BirdWatcher

If you go into league history under accomplishments, no-hitters (sorry, not in front of game right now to screenshot any of this), is there a notation that indicating that this is a perfect game?

Just curious if this was just a failing of the game recap or if the program really did not recognize this as a perfect game.

Yes it does list it as a perfect game in parentheses after the no hitter information where you are noting it is.

BirdWatcher · 01-13-2020, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Palaaemon

Yes it does list it as a perfect game in parentheses after the no hitter information where you are noting it is.

Right.

But I was asking if it was for the OP in this case.

smiller · 01-13-2020, 09:00 PM

I recently had a perfect game, but the team used three pitchers so it wasn't even mentioned as a no hitter in the recap.

jim255 · 01-13-2020, 09:56 PM

Yes, the pitcher/game is listed under Accomplishments, but after the player name, date, etc. it merely says: 3K, 0BB and 9IP versus Cincinnati while playing for Chicago. Perfect game never mentioned, nor is there a category for it--just for no-hitters. Looks like another item for the "bug fixes," rare though these accomplishments are. Thanks for your input.

BirdWatcher · 01-13-2020, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jim255

Yes, the pitcher/game is listed under Accomplishments, but after the player name, date, etc. it merely says: 3K, 0BB and 9IP versus Cincinnati while playing for Chicago. Perfect game never mentioned, nor is there a category for it--just for no-hitters. Looks like another item for the "bug fixes," rare though these accomplishments are. Thanks for your input.

Right, it isn't a separate category, just a notation at the end of the line for a no-hitter in the accomplishments list.
What Palaaemon and I are talking about looks like this:
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If you aren't seeing this then something went wrong or something in this game led the program to believe that it wasn't in fact a Perfect Game.

jim255 · 01-14-2020, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BirdWatcher

Right, it isn't a separate category, just a notation at the end of the line for a no-hitter in the accomplishments list.
What Palaaemon and I are talking about looks like this:
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If you aren't seeing this then something went wrong or something in this game led the program to believe that it wasn't in fact a Perfect Game.

Yes, something had to have gone wrong somewhere along the line, because all of the game criteria earmark it as a (PERFECT GAME). But it having flown under the radar notwithstanding, it sure was fun to watch and play. But flaws do occur; fairly often I see duplicate entries in the pitching category of a box score--the same guy listed consecutively with the same row of numbers. And recently I saw a guy's pitching stats that looked rather odd: A 0.00 ERA despite his record showing 3 earned runs in a small number of innings. I should have taken note of it and reported it.

Matt Arnold · 01-14-2020, 08:56 AM

I'd suggest attaching the box score and game logs from the game. We should rarely miss noting a perfect game so must be something that prevented it.

bwburke94 · 01-17-2020, 11:29 AM

It's also possible that the OP thought it was a perfect game when it really wasn't.

01-13-2020, 05:39 PM	#1
jim255 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 148	Perfecto imperfectly noted I love this game, but you have to wonder sometimes. I just played the 9-17 Cubs-Reds game in my replay of the 1954 season in which Cubs lefty Paul Minner pitched a perfect game: 27 up, 27 down--no runs, hits, walks, hit batsmen, errors! But the Game Recap merely congratulated him on his no-hitter. No-hitters are relatively common in MLB, there being roughly 2-4 every season. Perfectos? Not so much. Oh, and Minner hit a solo homer in his first AB in the Cubs 7-0 victory. But what part of a perfect game doesn't the AI (or whatever) understand? What's so hard about detecting that? I'm guess I'm more amused than annoyed. Anyone else encounter such a head-scratcher?:

01-13-2020, 05:48 PM	#2
BirdWatcher Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 4,262	If you go into league history under accomplishments, no-hitters (sorry, not in front of game right now to screenshot any of this), is there a notation there indicating that this is a perfect game? Just curious if this was just a failing of the game recap or if the program really did not recognize this as a perfect game. __________________ The Denver Brewers of the W.P. Kinsella League-- The fun starts here(1965-1971: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=289570 And continues here (1972-1976): https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=300500 On we go (1977- 1979): https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=314601 For ongoing and more random updates on the WPK:https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=325147, https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=330717 Last edited by BirdWatcher; 01-13-2020 at 06:25 PM.

01-13-2020, 09:00 PM	#5
smiller Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Pittsboro NC Posts: 424	I recently had a perfect game, but the team used three pitchers so it wasn't even mentioned as a no hitter in the recap.

01-13-2020, 09:56 PM	#6
jim255 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 148	Yes, the pitcher/game is listed under Accomplishments, but after the player name, date, etc. it merely says: 3K, 0BB and 9IP versus Cincinnati while playing for Chicago. Perfect game never mentioned, nor is there a category for it--just for no-hitters. Looks like another item for the "bug fixes," rare though these accomplishments are. Thanks for your input.

01-14-2020, 08:56 AM	#9
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,136	I'd suggest attaching the box score and game logs from the game. We should rarely miss noting a perfect game so must be something that prevented it.

01-17-2020, 11:29 AM	#10
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,443	It's also possible that the OP thought it was a perfect game when it really wasn't.