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Old 01-21-2020, 06:49 PM   #1
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Updating in 2.5

Why doesn't it work? Why do we get "Error writing to file"?

After some research, I have a theory.

I went through the Change List to see what the last updates to go through were. It was 12 June 2016, when IceTea added Vissia Trovato and made a batch of other changes. Those show up fine. The next update on the list was 16 June 2016, where he made another slew of changes. Those don't update on 2.5 nor any others from that day on.

Looking at the Change List for 16 June 2016 I noticed something odd. Bear added three venues that day and they're showing in the fighter list. I looked through all 210 pages of changes and those are the only venues listed. I suspect the game is trying to add them as fighters then stopping the update and showing the error message when it realizes they aren't.

I don't know what, if anything, can be done about it but that seems like a likely answer to why updates quit working in 2.5.
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Old 01-22-2020, 11:07 AM   #2
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OK, I'm an idiot. I was thinking like a person instead of a computer.

I went into the config.ini and changed the time stamps for updates to 20200117, the date of the last update listed on the Change List. It worked! The latest updates loaded just fine. So, I figured we could skip over whatever file is causing problems by setting a later date. I switched to 20170101. Error, error, error. Tried 20180101. Error, error, successfully wrote biographies! At 20190101 I got success on all three. Now experimenting with dates to try and isolate the problem(s).
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Old 01-22-2020, 11:45 AM   #3
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Fighters and RatingRecords work if you set the date in your config.ini to 20180516. Biographies work if you set the date to 20170217.

That means the Fighters/RatingRecords error is in the 5/15/2018 update and the biography error is in the 2/16/2017 update.
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Old 01-22-2020, 07:30 PM   #4
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NOTE: The presence of problems on those dates do not preclude the possibility of other problems between then and August of 2015 when the new database went online.

There were only a couple of bio updates on 2/16/2017. Aside from some inconsistent spacing there's nothing apparent in what's shown on the Change List to suggest why either would be causing errors.

Same story on 5/15/2018. Only a few updates, none with obvious issues.

Of course I don't have database access, so I'm pretty limited in what I can see and even more so when it comes to doing anything about it.
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Old 01-24-2020, 12:41 PM   #5
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TB2013 is unusable, but it does pick up the updates and it uses an identical file system to 2.5. I was able to use WinMerge to identify Fighters, RatingRecords, and Biographies that existed in the TB2013 files but not in the 2.5 files and copy them over..
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Old 01-28-2020, 10:31 AM   #6
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TB2013 will add fighters without RatingRecords while 2.5 will not. The next step in this project was to identify fighters who show up in 2013 but not in 2.5. 73 such fighters were found:

x Angel Acosta
Michael Arango
x Jose Argumedo
x Clive Atwell
Teodora Bacheva
Booker Beckwith
Jessica Belder
Nicki Bigwood
Christophe Bizot
Arlene Blencowe
Robert Feliciano Bolonti
Liz Butler
Paul Butler
Leroy Caldwell
x Luke Campbell
Yamil Caraballo
Amanda Carriere
x Jack Catterall
Samuel Colombian
x James Dickens
x Daniel Estrada
x Remo Fernandez
Saxon Harrison
x Joksan Hernandez
Kaelon Hollon
Kumiko Seeser Ikehara
Marina Isami
Mika Iwakawa
x Albert Johnson
x Saul Juarez
Tewa Kiram
x Andrey Klimov
Juliane Koffnit
Konni Konrad
x Tomas Kovacs
x Kristijan Krstacic
Dmitry Kudryashov
x Sydney LeBlanc
Rey Loreto
Peggy Maerz
x Guadalupe Maria Antonia Maldonado
x Eduardo Martinez
Tony Masiarelli
Esther Matshiya
x Andy Mejias
x Richie Mepranum
Igor Mikhalken
Ivana Mirkov
Lillian Molala
x Go Odaira
Kumi Oishi
Buangern Onesongchaigym
Carlos Ortega
x Warlito Parrenas
Adela Celeste del Carmen Peralta
Endrimar Pirona
Angi Paola Rocha
x Fahsai Sakkreerin
Olga Salas
x Edgar Santana
Bintou Schmill
x Michel Soro
Melania Sorroche
Nina Stojanovic
Vanesa Taborda
Kei Takenaka
x Keith Tapia
x Silvia Torres
Ana Cristina Vargas
Fernando Luna Velez
x Jayson Velez
Felix Verdejo
Khlaid Yafai

The ones marked with an x had a tbdx file I found posted on the boards, and so could be added to your database manually.

Whoever has access to the database should reupload these rating records.
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Old 02-17-2020, 04:03 PM   #7
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where do you go to change the config ini?
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Old 02-17-2020, 04:15 PM   #8
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In windows the config.ini is at:

C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Roaming\Out of the Park Developments\Title Bout Championship Boxing 2.5

You might not have the Roaming folder, Out of the Park Developments could be directly under AppData.

The parameters you need to change are at the very bottom of the file, under Web Options. Put in the dates listed above as YYYYMMDD followed by six zeroes.
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Old 10-08-2021, 10:38 AM   #9
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We've had a few new glitches lately, but I think I've identified at least part of the problem.

I've been running updates within a day or two of them showing up on the change list on both 2.5 and 2013. The programs handle problems very differently. 2.5 gives error messages and stops updating while 2013 skips the problem files without telling you there's a problem. Neither added Edward Malave from back on August 9th but I set my config timestamps on 2.5's config.ini to the 10th and it's worked fine.....until today. Error/error/error. So I ran 2013. It worked but only picked up some of the adds. Specifically. Tony Yoka showed up but Bakole and Wallisch did not. So I went to the list to see if I could determine what the problem was. One thing jumped out at me immediately.

Bakole and Wallisch both had

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extid 0
while Yoka had

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extid 795843
Malave also has a 0 for external ID

So I'm thinking that leaving the external ID blank or at 0 when entering new fighters hangs up the updates. I can't do anything about it, but those of you who do updates (i.e. Ice Tea) should make a note of it and maybe go back and put External IDs in for Bakole, Wallisch, and Malave.
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From manually inputting the numbers myself, I know the extid is the box rec.com id number. Would that number cause a problem with the database?
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Old 10-08-2021, 11:42 AM   #11
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From manually inputting the numbers myself, I know the extid is the box rec.com id number. Would that number cause a problem with the database?
Yes it would.

If you've ever looked at the fighter records under Default Data you'll see that the file names are three numbers, such as 16355_1946_1953. The first number is the External ID. The Rating Records have file names that are two numbers, such as 16355_194601. Again, the first number is the External ID. That's how the game knows which Rating Record(s) go with which fighter.

The other numbers in the fighter record name are the start and end year of their career. The other number in the Rating Record name is the "valid as of" date.
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Old 10-08-2021, 01:47 PM   #12
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Good work Pilight.

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Old 10-08-2021, 02:01 PM   #13
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If the guys who do the updates have a search function for the database for every boxer who has an extid of 0, those numbers could be changed and the database could update properly.
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Old 10-08-2021, 02:51 PM   #14
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If the guys who do the updates have a search function for the database for every boxer who has an extid of 0, those numbers could be changed and the database could update properly.
I don't actually think this particular issue is that widespread. The original hangup from May 2018 came after an update with no fighter adds.
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Old 10-08-2021, 05:32 PM   #15
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It looks like you have another update to test your hypothesis. The first boxer in this update (Michal Cieslak ) has a 0 for extid.
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It looks like you have another update to test your hypothesis. The first boxer in this update (Michal Cieslak ) has a 0 for extid.
He didn't download either.

I don't know how much IceTea reads the board. Might send him a PM.

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Old 10-09-2021, 06:56 PM   #17
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Another update. This one has Jamie Mitchell, who has a 0 for extid.
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Old 10-09-2021, 07:44 PM   #18
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2.5 gave me error/error/error again.

2013 added Mitchell but gave her a bunch of extra ratings. Looked in the 2013 Import Data and sure enough there are several ratings records without external IDs. Gonna look now and see if I can determine who they belong to.
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Old 10-10-2021, 10:58 AM   #19
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This morning's update has no fighters with a 0 extid.
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This morning's update has no fighters with a 0 extid.
I did send IceTea a PM about it and he added the missing number to some of those that were missing.
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