CubbyFan's 2011 Roster Set Thread - Page 4

winniethepujols · 07-24-2011, 02:09 PM

Cubby,

Could you elaborate on what will be touched in the August release (the original 2.0 version)? In your first post, you describe it as containing "more detail on the minor leagues, including re-ratings for Single-A through Triple-A", but in one of your recent posts, you say that the complete minor league revamping will carry over late into the year, and will converge with your work on the 2012 set.

I guess I'm just kind of curious which players will be touched. Like, let's say the Top 100 prospects make the cut for the August release. Which Top 100 prospects is that based off of -- the preseason lists? For instance, the Cardinals had two prospects on Baseball America's Top 100 -- Zach Cox and Shelby Miller. However, I've heard Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus and Keith Law both insinuate that they could have upwards of 6-7 of the top 100 in baseball right now, based on performances this season.

So I guess what I'm asking is this: should I expect players like Oscar Taveras, Matt Adams, Carlos Martinez, Tyrell Jenkins (in other words, present-day top 100 prospects that missed the preseason cut) to be tweaked for the set that's going to be released in the coming weeks?

Thanks, and I'm really looking forward the rosters!

CubbyFan23 · 07-25-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by speedy

I second this comment. i am struggling with the game rosters for all the reasons mentioned before.

The version that is out now... are the nationals (and other) ratings addressed?

I would hold off - I'd anticipate them being finished either this weekend 7/31 or next weekend 8/7 at the very latest (the only reason I hedge is that this weekend has the possibility of ending up kind of hectic for me without a ton of time to work on them like I originally anticipated). The difference between the MLB quickstart/my beta rosters and these rosters will be immense. I would compare this upcoming release to a final version of my sets in 2008-2009.

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Originally Posted by winniethepujols

Cubby,

Could you elaborate on what will be touched in the August release (the original 2.0 version)? In your first post, you describe it as containing "more detail on the minor leagues, including re-ratings for Single-A through Triple-A", but in one of your recent posts, you say that the complete minor league revamping will carry over late into the year, and will converge with your work on the 2012 set.

I guess I'm just kind of curious which players will be touched. Like, let's say the Top 100 prospects make the cut for the August release. Which Top 100 prospects is that based off of -- the preseason lists? For instance, the Cardinals had two prospects on Baseball America's Top 100 -- Zach Cox and Shelby Miller. However, I've heard Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus and Keith Law both insinuate that they could have upwards of 6-7 of the top 100 in baseball right now, based on performances this season.

So I guess what I'm asking is this: should I expect players like Oscar Taveras, Matt Adams, Carlos Martinez, Tyrell Jenkins (in other words, present-day top 100 prospects that missed the preseason cut) to be tweaked for the set that's going to be released in the coming weeks?

Thanks, and I'm really looking forward the rosters!

Since I burned through the MLB re-rating so quickly, it kind of shifted the timeline which shifted the release details, so I'm glad you asked.

The upcoming release will include each team's pre-season Top 30 prospects rated, as well as any prospects de-rated (is that a word?) who were too high. Your in-game BA prospect rankings will be 100% identical to real life. However, this does not account for any in-season adjustments that would or should be made. If anyone has taken leaps forward mid-season, that will not be reflected. The Cardinals' Martinez is a great example of a guy who will be a good prospect in the set (I believe he was #6 in the Cardinals' Top 30), but not as good as he is currently.

A lot of these guys either had very poor ratings which didn't make them any sort of prospect, or no ratings at all for recent draftees, so I think this should help get us at least halfway there. I'm anticipating that this upcoming release will be the last 2011 release, and at that point I'm going to dig in and start adjusting minor league rosters to reflect what the 2012 Opening Day landscape will look like (updated actual ratings, updated prospects, and more in-depth things for bit players in the minor leagues such as fielding ratings, etc.)

Hope that helps explain!

MunichCubFan · 07-27-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

I would hold off - I'd anticipate them being finished either this weekend 7/31 or next weekend 8/7 at the very latest (the only reason I hedge is that this weekend has the possibility of ending up kind of hectic for me without a ton of time to work on them like I originally anticipated). The difference between the MLB quickstart/my beta rosters and these rosters will be immense. I would compare this upcoming release to a final version of my sets in 2008-2009.

I'm anticipating that this upcoming release will be the last 2011 release, and at that point I'm going to dig in and start adjusting minor league rosters to reflect what the 2012 Opening Day landscape will look like (updated actual ratings, updated prospects, and more in-depth things for bit players in the minor leagues such as fielding ratings, etc.)

Hope that helps explain!

Thanks CF! I'm looking forward to running a new game off of your rosters. I always get carried away when I tweak the Cubs organization, and they end up playing .750 ball after a year. That gets boring. (Although I got Colvin somewhat right, he's back in AAA hitting in the low .200s with decent power.)

Matty86 · 07-31-2011, 05:35 PM

Looking forward to the roster. Although I'll probably start a game tonight, I always like to start fresh around the real life trade deadline.

johndoe8865 · 07-31-2011, 06:00 PM

CubbyFan, any update. How is 7/31 looking?

CubbyFan23 · 08-01-2011, 03:46 PM

Still looking at release this upcoming weekend rather than the past (obviously now

) - got bogged down with some things this weekend and was able to get through the Philadelphia minor league system, just eight more to update for release.

As a consolation prize, I'll be releasing two sets this weekend; the first will be pre-season 2011, the second will include all roster moves to date, including those made at the trade deadline. Both will be identical in terms of ratings, etc. but will have different rosters.

gobravez · 08-02-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

Still looking at release this upcoming weekend rather than the past (obviously now

) - got bogged down with some things this weekend and was able to get through the Philadelphia minor league system, just eight more to update for release.

As a consolation prize, I'll be releasing two sets this weekend; the first will be pre-season 2011, the second will include all roster moves to date, including those made at the trade deadline. Both will be identical in terms of ratings, etc. but will have different rosters.

Does this mean that the second roster set will be dated 8-1-11 with accurate standings or will it be set to opening day?

CubbyFan23 · 08-02-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gobravez

Does this mean that the second roster set will be dated 8-1-11 with accurate standings or will it be set to opening day?

Opening Day

metsgl · 08-02-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

Still looking at release this upcoming weekend rather than the past (obviously now

) - got bogged down with some things this weekend and was able to get through the Philadelphia minor league system, just eight more to update for release.

As a consolation prize, I'll be releasing two sets this weekend; the first will be pre-season 2011, the second will include all roster moves to date, including those made at the trade deadline. Both will be identical in terms of ratings, etc. but will have different rosters.

Will the 2nd set include this year's draft picks?

CubbyFan23 · 08-02-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by metsgl

Will the 2nd set include this year's draft picks?

That will be something that will be put into the 2012 set, due in November'ish.

CubbyFan23 · 08-02-2011, 10:47 PM

Although I may try to squeeze the first few rounds of players into the draft pool for teams to draft from - kind of depends on how quick I can finish out the Top 30 prospects, I'd like to be wrapped up on the project by Sunday. I suppose there could always be a mini-release afterwards with updated draft pools.

OutS|der · 08-03-2011, 12:21 AM

i can't wait for this roster set.

but i'd like to ask how do you edit or update the draft pool?
i'm still using an older roster set and would love to update my draft pool rather then creating a player and having them a free agent

nutt · 08-03-2011, 06:39 AM

Cubby, I don't know if this has been mentioned but when looking over team histories, the New York Yankees 2009-2010 is listed as a defunct Baltimore Orioles history. Can this be corrected?

CubbyFan23 · 08-03-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by nutt

Cubby, I don't know if this has been mentioned but when looking over team histories, the New York Yankees 2009-2010 is listed as a defunct Baltimore Orioles history. Can this be corrected?

Unfortunately, the only fix I've found is to do a complete re-import of the MLB file, which probably is a bit too much at this point. It will be fixed for the '12 file though.

Just read through the notes for the recent patch, and they have (rightly so) changed the ranking formula for the BA Top Prospects list, which MAY require me to tweak prospect ratings a bit. Since the top 30 are already re-rated, that won't require much, and we should still be on track for a Sunday release. I'll update if I get home and find that has changed at all.

mgom27 · 08-03-2011, 04:33 PM

If somebody wants the Date as of Today your going to have to do redo Schedule to make it start on 8-1-11 but be less Games. Draft Picks from this year can just be created.

CubbyFan23 · 08-03-2011, 08:42 PM

Well shoot - latest patch completely rewrote prospect ranking formulas so the rankings are slightly jumbled now. I won't have time to re-do them all, so apologies for those being off. We'll get 'em right for 2012. The top 30s for all teams HAVE been rated though. I disagree with the new prospect rankings, but there's nothing I can do about that.

millhousebc · 08-04-2011, 02:05 AM

Sorry, maybe a noob question, but what are the main diffeneces between update # 3 and what Cubby is going to release in a week or two? Both are editing/re-calc the prospects list. Thanks for any insight.

CubbyFan23 · 08-04-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by millhousebc

Sorry, maybe a noob question, but what are the main diffeneces between update # 3 and what Cubby is going to release in a week or two? Both are editing/re-calc the prospects list. Thanks for any insight.

Not noob at all - latest patch just rewrote the coding that ranks prospects, it didn't actually re-rate any of the players (some of which don't even have ratings at the moment). I've gone through and entered pitch types, speeds, ratings, etc. for each of the Top 30 on each team.

tejdog1 · 08-04-2011, 03:17 PM

Hopefully Cubby's rosters are better than OOTP's. No way, for example, Kirk Nieuwenhuis has a 21 ceiling on the 20-80 scale.

CubbyFan23 · 08-04-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tejdog1

Hopefully Cubby's rosters are better than OOTP's. No way, for example, Kirk Nieuwenhuis has a 21 ceiling on the 20-80 scale.

If you are a Nieuwenhuis fan, I think you will be very happy if you play as the Mets.

Close to ML ready with some significant upside.

08-03-2011, 04:33 PM	#75
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,520	If somebody wants the Date as of Today your going to have to do redo Schedule to make it start on 8-1-11 but be less Games. Draft Picks from this year can just be created. __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

08-04-2011, 03:17 PM	#79
tejdog1 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Danbury, CT Posts: 1,618	Hopefully Cubby's rosters are better than OOTP's. No way, for example, Kirk Nieuwenhuis has a 21 ceiling on the 20-80 scale. __________________ It's amazing How you make your face just like a wall How you take your heart and turn it off How I turn my head and lose it all And it's unnerving How just one move puts me by myself There you go just trusting someone else Now I know I put us both through hell ~Matchbox 20, "Leave" Everyone knows it's spelled "TRAID", not trade

07-24-2011, 02:09 PM	#61
winniethepujols Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4	Cubby, Could you elaborate on what will be touched in the August release (the original 2.0 version)? In your first post, you describe it as containing "more detail on the minor leagues, including re-ratings for Single-A through Triple-A", but in one of your recent posts, you say that the complete minor league revamping will carry over late into the year, and will converge with your work on the 2012 set. I guess I'm just kind of curious which players will be touched. Like, let's say the Top 100 prospects make the cut for the August release. Which Top 100 prospects is that based off of -- the preseason lists? For instance, the Cardinals had two prospects on Baseball America's Top 100 -- Zach Cox and Shelby Miller. However, I've heard Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus and Keith Law both insinuate that they could have upwards of 6-7 of the top 100 in baseball right now, based on performances this season. So I guess what I'm asking is this: should I expect players like Oscar Taveras, Matt Adams, Carlos Martinez, Tyrell Jenkins (in other words, present-day top 100 prospects that missed the preseason cut) to be tweaked for the set that's going to be released in the coming weeks? Thanks, and I'm really looking forward the rosters!

07-31-2011, 05:35 PM	#64
Matty86 Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 401	Looking forward to the roster. Although I'll probably start a game tonight, I always like to start fresh around the real life trade deadline.

07-31-2011, 06:00 PM	#65
johndoe8865 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 86	CubbyFan, any update. How is 7/31 looking?

08-01-2011, 03:46 PM	#66
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Still looking at release this upcoming weekend rather than the past (obviously now ) - got bogged down with some things this weekend and was able to get through the Philadelphia minor league system, just eight more to update for release. As a consolation prize, I'll be releasing two sets this weekend; the first will be pre-season 2011, the second will include all roster moves to date, including those made at the trade deadline. Both will be identical in terms of ratings, etc. but will have different rosters.

08-02-2011, 10:47 PM	#71
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Although I may try to squeeze the first few rounds of players into the draft pool for teams to draft from - kind of depends on how quick I can finish out the Top 30 prospects, I'd like to be wrapped up on the project by Sunday. I suppose there could always be a mini-release afterwards with updated draft pools.

08-03-2011, 12:21 AM	#72
OutS\|der Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 2,247	i can't wait for this roster set. but i'd like to ask how do you edit or update the draft pool? i'm still using an older roster set and would love to update my draft pool rather then creating a player and having them a free agent

08-03-2011, 06:39 AM	#73
nutt OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,077	Cubby, I don't know if this has been mentioned but when looking over team histories, the New York Yankees 2009-2010 is listed as a defunct Baltimore Orioles history. Can this be corrected?

08-03-2011, 08:42 PM	#76
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Well shoot - latest patch completely rewrote prospect ranking formulas so the rankings are slightly jumbled now. I won't have time to re-do them all, so apologies for those being off. We'll get 'em right for 2012. The top 30s for all teams HAVE been rated though. I disagree with the new prospect rankings, but there's nothing I can do about that.

08-04-2011, 02:05 AM	#77
millhousebc Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 161	Sorry, maybe a noob question, but what are the main diffeneces between update # 3 and what Cubby is going to release in a week or two? Both are editing/re-calc the prospects list. Thanks for any insight.