So if my DH is the backup for my 3b, who subs for the DH when he starts for the 3B?

warneke · 03-20-2019, 02:54 PM

The ability to use startering players as backups to tired players at other positions has been a long time coming and a great feature.

But how do I set the lineups and depth charts correctly now?

I mean if my DH (Spangenberg) is the Utility1 for my 3B (Longoria) and Longoria needs to rest, how do I correctly set up my depth chart?

Would I just need a player in Utility1 and/or Utiliy2 for DH Spangenberg, and what should those DH backups be set to?

If I set the backups (Utility1 and/or Utility2) to start Never, then I dont think they would replace Spangenberg as DH in the starting lineup, would they? So do I set them as Start When Tired? But Spagenberg isnt tired, he is switching to 3B for the game for Longoria....

Matt Arnold · 03-20-2019, 03:03 PM

Yeah, "start when tired" or better (any of the "Every X games") will also have him start when your DH is shifted to start at another position.

fredbeene · 03-22-2019, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Yeah, "start when tired" or better (any of the "Every X games") will also have him start when your DH is shifted to start at another position.

and what TIRED LEVEL makes the sub happen?
and how much does performance suffer as fatigue gets worse????

warneke · 03-22-2019, 11:41 PM

The OOTP 20 manual says Tired is defined as less than 70% effectiveness... So somewhere in the yellow range.

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fredbeene · 03-23-2019, 08:57 AM

thanks but i am pretty sure if a player is slightly tired or tired they don't lose 70% effectiveness.
there is no way a pitcher could pitch a complete game if they were only lobbing the ball.
i can''t tell when the player gets subbed....the yellow indicator apparently is not granular enough

warneke · 03-23-2019, 09:22 AM

69% or Less effectiveness and the starter gets subbed for. Which is what I said the first time.

03-20-2019, 02:54 PM	#1
warneke Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 91	So if my DH is the backup for my 3b, who subs for the DH when he starts for the 3B? The ability to use startering players as backups to tired players at other positions has been a long time coming and a great feature. But how do I set the lineups and depth charts correctly now? I mean if my DH (Spangenberg) is the Utility1 for my 3B (Longoria) and Longoria needs to rest, how do I correctly set up my depth chart? Would I just need a player in Utility1 and/or Utiliy2 for DH Spangenberg, and what should those DH backups be set to? If I set the backups (Utility1 and/or Utility2) to start Never, then I dont think they would replace Spangenberg as DH in the starting lineup, would they? So do I set them as Start When Tired? But Spagenberg isnt tired, he is switching to 3B for the game for Longoria....

03-20-2019, 03:03 PM	#2
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,145	Yeah, "start when tired" or better (any of the "Every X games") will also have him start when your DH is shifted to start at another position.

03-22-2019, 11:41 PM	#4
warneke Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 91	The OOTP 20 manual says Tired is defined as less than 70% effectiveness... So somewhere in the yellow range. Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

03-23-2019, 08:57 AM	#5
fredbeene All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,510 Blog Entries: 3	thanks but i am pretty sure if a player is slightly tired or tired they don't lose 70% effectiveness. there is no way a pitcher could pitch a complete game if they were only lobbing the ball. i can''t tell when the player gets subbed....the yellow indicator apparently is not granular enough

03-23-2019, 09:22 AM	#6
warneke Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 91	69% or Less effectiveness and the starter gets subbed for. Which is what I said the first time.