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Looks like you are getting some guys I don't already have .. they will have to join the LBA in 1913
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Dan Bayliff
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Global ID 57899 sex male division light heavyweight nationality United States residence Lima, Ohio, United States won 1 (KO 0) + lost 3 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 4 1893-1900 (Baliff) Boxrec has him listed as a LHW although the weight class came into being after Bayliff's retirement. It gives him losses on points to klondike and Jim Arnold and stopped by Kid McCoy. Credits him with a win vs. Ike Boone. Schutte's American Supplement of Boxing William schutte Whitewater, WI 1989 has his career running from 1892-1900 Schutte does not include the bout with Boone. Credits Bayliff with 5 KO wins, 3 KO loses, the 2 decision loses above, 1 ND, 4 Draws (3 due to police) Last fight given is a draw with big Ed Dunkhurst Dan Bayliff HW slugger 1
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Brutus Clay
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Global ID 234988 sex male division lightweight alias The Blue Grass Cyclone residence won 0 (KO 0) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 1 = 1 1898 Louisville, KY ? Judged strictly on points Crosby had the better of the argument, but the advantage was not sufficient to base a decision on". Attendance: 1,200. Brutus Clay LW boxer 0 Bear
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Global ID 347888 sex male division heavyweight nationality United Kingdom residence birth place Yorkshire won 0 (KO 0) + lost 1 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 1 1884 stopped by Joe Coverwell in South Africa Trooper Denton HW slugger 0 Bear
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Joe Coverwell
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Global ID 305230 sex male division heavyweight nationality South Africa residence height 6' 1? won 1 (KO 1) + lost 1 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 2 1884 240 lbs lost to early South African star mw James Robertson Couper Joe Coverwell HW slugger 0
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Good stuff bear, i'll try and join in soon, ploughing through my photo's at the moment.
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I've gotten my copy of Schutte's record book out. I'll try to rate everyone he provides a record for that isn't already in my Database Bayliff was the first of these. Clay was found in boxrec while looking for TC's and i liked his nickname "The Bluegrass Cyclone". Coverwell and Denton are part of my examination of Woolf Bendoff's rating. I'm re-reading a source that lists 11 bouts, all draws or wins, that Bendoff participated in before the first of his boxrec listings. His rating in the game is based on the boxrec posting that has only one draw and a half dozen loses. Bear
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Woolf Bendoff
Here is my tweak of Woolf Bendoff, He is now a weak HW slugger 1.
a discussion can be found athttp://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post2522766 Bear
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William Bachman
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Global ID 447500 sex male nationality United States residence Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States won 0 (KO 0) + lost 1 (KO 0) + drawn 0 = 1 1895-05-20 Joseph Elliott L PTS 9 8 scheduled extra round fought Schutte's American supplement of Boxing gives his career dates as 1892-1896 Record is 5-2-1 and does not include the boxrec bout. Most notworthy effort is a win over Elwood McClusky. 115 thru 120 lbs 5' 6" William Bachman BW boxer 1
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Larry Becker
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Global ID 67342 sex male division lightweight nationality United States residence Bayonne, New Jersey, United States won 5 (KO 3) + lost 3 (KO 3) + drawn 4 = 12 Schutte's American supplement of boxing has him boxing from 1893-1898 1874-10-17 128 thru 130 5' 6" (New York, NY) TB 30 W 21 (15 ko, 5 Wd 1 wf) L 5 (1 ld 4 kod'by) D 3 ND 1 Schutte doesn't give the Delaney draw, the Roth ko, or the Burgo draw among Becker's results and has the Burns tko win as a ko loss Larry Becker LW slugger 3
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Philadelphia Jimmy Weeden
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(jeremiah Weeden) not in box rec Source Schutte's American Supplement of Boxing 1989 London Prize Ring fighter 1875-1876. 5'4 130 Born in England 1854 Died 1877 3 bouts 2 KO wins in 43 and 76 rounds, a LF in 80 In his last fight, his opponent Billy Walker died and Weeden spent the rest of his life in prison in Trenton, NJ. Philadelphia Jimmy Weeden LW slugger 2 Bear
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Pittsburgh Jimmy Weeden
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not in boxrec Source Schutte's American Supplement of Boxing 1989 Born 1850-05-10 Kendal, England 5' 6 1/2 130lbs came to US in 1879 3-0 in fights in England with 2 of these wins by KO. In 1882 fought a draw and ND bout here Pittsburgh Jimmy Weeden LW slugger 1 Bear
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Billy Springfield
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not in boxrec Source Schutte's American Supplement of Boxing 1989 140 lbs 1896-1897 1 W-KO, 3 LD, 2 ND in Philadelphia Schutte reports him boxing in San Francisco late in 1897 Springfield, then remembered The Maine, enlisted in the army serving in Cuba and Puerto Rico. Billy Springfield WW slugger 0 Bear
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Harry Walsh
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Global ID 146563 sex male division welterweight nationality Canada residence Canada won 2 (KO 1) + lost 5 (KO 3) + drawn 0 = 7 1899-1904 Schutte's American Supplement of Boxing 1989 gives Born 1877-05-12 Montreal Died 1960 5' 9 145-158 Schutte has his career span as 1897-1904 TB 42 W 22 (13 ko, 6 wd, 3 wf) D 8 L 9 (5 ld, 4 kb) ND 2 NC 1 In 1901 he appears to have moved to Chicago Schutte does not include a tko loses to Jack Dwyer in 1899 Seems to have done quite well against average competition but but when facing better guys like Mike Schreck he had problems Harry Walsh WW slugger 2 Bear
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Joe Percente
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Global ID 36024 sex male division lightweight nationality United States residence Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States won 5 (KO 4) + lost 7 (KO 1) + drawn 4 = 16 1900-1905 Schutte's American Supplement of Boxing 1989 has born 1877 died 1928-03-10 5'4 130-135 career span given 1899-1903 TB 51 W 18 (12 ko, 6 wd) D 16 L 17 (9 ld, 3lf, 5ko) Schutte has box rec's loss to Ryan as a draw tko Loss to Bill Quinn and 05 decision loss to Bronson aren't included Joe Percente LW slugger 3
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Global ID 57882 sex male birth date 1870-01-01 death date 1897-04-20 division welterweight nationality United States residence height 5' 7½? won 6 (KO 3) + lost 5 (KO 4) + drawn 0 = 14 1890-1897 Schutte's American Supplement of Boxing 1989 gives birth 1870-01-10 5' 7 135-140 nickname: The Haverstraw Brickmaker career span 1888-1897 TB 45 W 30 (18 ko 11 wd 1 wf) D 6 L 9 (1 ld 8 ko) EX 3 a ND bout vs Johnson and a NC vs Everhardt don't appear in Schutte 10 year career came to a sad conclusion when he died after being ko'd by Leslie Pearce in Athens, PA. Billy Vernon WW slugger 3 Bear
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Global ID 189833 sex male division bantamweight nationality United States residence Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States won 5 (KO 2) + lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 0 = 8 1902-1906 Schutte's American Supplement of Boxing 1989 gives 126-130 lbs career span 1901-1906 military service Nov. 1902 to July 1905 TB 20 W 10 (3ko 7 wd) D 4 L 5 (1 ld 4ko) ND 1 boxrec includes a ko win vs Duggan that isn't in Schutte Johnny Stone BW boxer 1 Bear
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Excellent stuff Bear.
These will all be joining my uni when I get it going again. Only about 50 pics more to upload, plus pics from Chris Greyvensteins 'The fighters' |
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Global ID 248606 sex male division lightweight nationality United States residence Youngstown, Ohio, United States won 2 (KO 2) + lost 4 (KO 2) + drawn 1 = 7 1903-1907 Schutte's American Supplement of Boxing 1989 gives Birthplace: Belfast, Ireland 120-130 lbs Alias: Curley Smith career span 1902-1907 TB 12 W 6 (6 ko) D 3 L 3 (2 ld, 1 kb) EX 1 Schutte indicates that Smith had additional fights in Ireland, Arkansas, and Missouri in 1904-1905. KO win vs Wolf and dec. loss to Ryan not in Schutte Corky Smith FW slugger 2 He's a real weak 2 sincw his career seems to have been comprised of his barnstorming local yokels. Bear
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