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Old 03-29-2016, 10:57 PM   #21
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Number 1 seed gone in the 1st Round????


Was there a goat involved?
Nah. Lefty Grove just went apegoof and won three games against the 1906 Cubs.
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Walter Johnson Quarter of the Draw 2nd round results:

41) 2) 1902 Pirates defeat 31) 1910 Cubs 4-3 MVP: Honus Wagner

42) 50) 1941 Dodgers defeat 18) 1998 Yankees 4-3 MVP: Joe Medwick

43) 26) 1912 Giants defeat 58) 1976 Reds 4-3 MVP: Chief Meyers

44) 55) 1938 Yankees defeat 23) 1936 Yankees 4-3 MVP: Joe DiMaggio

Cy Young Quarter of the Draw 2nd round results:

45) 35) 1914 Athletics defeat 3) 1939 Yankees 4-0 MVP: Eddie Collins Sr

46) 14) 1969 Orioles defeat 19) 1912 Red Sox 4-1 MVP: Mike Cuellar

47) 27) 1975 Reds defeat 6) 1942 Yankees 4-2 MVP: Dan Driessen

48) 22) 1937 Yankees defeat 54) 1997 Braves 4-1 MVP: Bill Dickey
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So let's reset as it's Sweet Sixteen time. Let's see what the matchups are gonna be.

Babe Ruth Quarter of the Draw:

16) 1948 Indians (8-3)
33) 1998 Braves (8-4)

40) 1971 Orioles (8-1)
41) 1947 Yankees (8-2)

Willie Mays Quarter of the Draw:

20) 1929 Athletics (8-6)
29) 1954 Yankees (8-1)

5) 1927 Yankees (8-3)
12) 1910 Athletics (8-5)

Walter Johnson Quarter of the Draw:

2) 1902 Pirates (8-5)
50) 1941 Dodgers (8-5)

26) 1912 Giants (8-5)
55) 1938 Yankees (8-6)

Cy Young Quarter of the Draw:

14) 1969 Orioles (8-3)
35) 1914 Athletics (8-2)

22) 1937 Yankees (8-2)
27) 1975 Reds (8-4)

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Old 03-30-2016, 01:23 AM   #24
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Completely blown away by the stunning sweep of the 1939 Yankees by the 1914 Athletics. I'm pretty sure that was a series where the Athletics did not commit a single error, while the Yankees made 7 in the four games. The 1976 Reds were up 3 games to 1 on the 1912 Giants, and they were up 5-1 in Game 6 after 7 innings, yet the Giants were able to persevere and take the series in 7. Pretty sure the 1910 Cubs were up two games to none on the 1902 Pirates before Honus Wagner rallied the troops. What an amazing tournament so far and we're just getting down to the nitty gritty.

48 best of seven series so far, and we've still only seen six sweeps. There have been nine five gamers, 17 six gamers, and sixteen series (one third of them) have gone the distance. Still very close to 70% of the series have gone six games, and that is awesome.

We've gotten through a bumpy first couple of rounds in which there have been 20 "upsets". As I've said before, I'm not sure you can call any result an upset with teams this good.

Gotta give a shout out to the 1938 Yankees and the 1941 Dodgers though. The 1938 Yankees had to take down the 1909 Pirates (which they did in seven games) followed by their close relatives the 1936 Yankees (again going the distance). The 1941 Dodgers took out a couple of juggernauts of their own - the 1954 Indians and the 1998 Yankees, which they did in six games and seven games respectively with Joe Medwick earning MVP honours both times. We're just gettin' warmed up folks. I'll try to post screenshots from here on out now that there are fewer series' to oversee.
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47) 27) 1975 Reds defeat 6) 1942 Yankees 4-2 MVP: Dan Driessen
Curious as to how Dan Driessen got into the starting lineup, as he was a sub on the real-life '75 Reds... Injury? DH rule in effect? AI just liked him better than someone else (maybe putting him in the lineup in LF, ahead of Geronimo and shifting Foster to CF)?
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Curious as to how Dan Driessen got into the starting lineup, as he was a sub on the real-life '75 Reds... Injury? DH rule in effect? AI just liked him better than someone else (maybe putting him in the lineup in LF, ahead of Geronimo and shifting Foster to CF)?
I play with no injuries, so that's not it. I believe he was at 3B, but I'm not sure. I've noticed the AI doing some very strange things with this mode of play: passing over Tom Glavine. Having Tony Perez come off the bench for one of the Reds teams or maybe both I'm not sure. Nothing I can do about it, but it is a bit annoying to watch.
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Well that was a whitewash and certainly not in the direction I expected it to go. Then again the way things have gone so far, I suppose I should expect the unexpected. The 1998 Atlanta Braves have swept the 1948 Indians 4-0. 2 strange things about this series. One: the AI started Greg Colbrunn at 1B over Andres Galarraga, which makes no sense, and two: the AI selected John Smoltz as the MVP of the series when he only pitched in one game. Central to their victory was the complete shutdown of RL 1948 AL MVP Lou Boudreau, who batted .125/.222/.125 for the series. Details as follows: Box score of Game 4 in two parts, followed by the Game log of Game 4, and the Series recap.
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Old 03-31-2016, 02:58 PM   #28
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It was a bit of a wild and wooly affair as the 1971 Orioles came back from being down 3-2 in the series and bested the 1947 Yankees 4-3 with sound 15-4 and 6-3 defeats in Games 6 and 7. 75 runs were scored in this series as the Orioles outscored the Yankees 43-32. Don Buford was named MVP, hitting .440/.563/.640 with 4 RBI. Since there were no really close games in this series except Game 2, I'll just post the Series recap.
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Old 03-31-2016, 03:35 PM   #29
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It was a classic pitching matchup for Game 7 of the 1929 Athletics/1954 Yankees series. The only problem was Lefty Grove forgot to show up. The Yankees pummelated (no it's not a word, but I used it anyway ) the HoFer for 10 runs on 13 hits in 6.1 IP to take Game 7 rather decisively 10-4. Irv Noren of the Yankees was named MVP of the series, hitting .387/.424/.613 while belting 2 HR and knocking in 7. The Yankees outscored the Athletics 35-31 for the series, which was pretty tight and closely contested up until Lefty laid an egg in Game 7. The series recap:
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The 1927 Yankees barely survived against the 1910 Athletics 4 games to 3, after being down 3-1 in the series and 4-2 after 7 and a half innings in Game 7. It's very hard to explain how the Yankees came out on top in this series, as they made 20 errors to the Athletics' 5, and were outscored 32-24, but I guess they were good enough when they had to be, and they will move on to the Elite Eight to face the 1954 Yankees in a Yankee-Yankee showdown. Earle Combs picked up MVP honours after batting .400/.483/.600 with 4 RBI for the series. This series totally left me scratching my head, as the Yankees simply did not play well enough to win, but they did anyway with a 6-5 comeback win in Game 7. A very close series, but not a classic by any means, with the winners making 20 errors and being outscored by a wide margin. Game 7 box score in two parts, as well as the Game Log of the fateful bottom of the eighth inning which the Athletics would rather forget about, plus the Series Recap:
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Deacon Phillippe (a distant relative of actor Ryan Phillippe, who named his first son after him) absolutely throttled the 1941 Dodgers, going 3-0 with a 0.32 ERA, including a Game 1 1-0 shutout and a Game 6 1-0 shutout in ten innings to bookend a 4-2 series win for the 1902 Pirates in fine style. Jimmy Burke had a dramatic 2 out pinch hit walkoff RBI double in the bottom of the tenth inning of Game 6, but that got lost in Phillippe's sheer dominance. His final line: 28.0 IP, 14 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 3 K was completely deserving of series MVP honours. The Dodgers outerred the Pirates 21-12 (including 9 in an ugly Game 5 8-1 loss) in the series and were outscored 22-16. Game 6 boxscore in 2 parts, plus Game 6 Game Log of the big hit, and Series Recap follow below:
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The 55th ranked 1938 Yankees simply refuse to lose, as they dispatched the 26th ranked 1912 Giants in six games, and will now advance to the Elite Eight against the 1902 Pirates. Red Ruffing came up huge with 3 consecutive wins over Giants ace Rube Marquard, winning 8-5, 2-1, and 3-1 to snag MVP honours. The Bombers got back to back solo shots from DiMaggio and Dickey in the fourth inning and another solo shot from Lou Gehrig in the sixth inning all off Marquard in Game 6 to seal the fate of the Giants in the decisive game. The Yankees definitely were worthy winners this time as the Giants outerred them 13-8 and were outscored by the Bombers 21-15. Buck Herzog hit a walkoff RBI single in Game 2, while Joe Gordon propelled the Yankees to victory in Game 3 with a walkoff HR. The Giants survived a back and forth game in Game 5 to push it as far as it went, but after that the Yankees took control in Game 6 with ace Ruffing on the mound. Series recap follows below:
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The 1969 Orioles put out the 1914 Athletics in five games in a series that was much closer than it would appear on the surface. The O's won Game 1 relatively easy with a 4-2 victory that didn't see the A's score until the ninth inning against Mike Cuellar. Game 2 was a different story however, as the A's put up three runs in the ninth to take a 5-3 lead on a two-run single by Amos Strunk and an RBI double by Home Run Baker. But the Orioles scratched out two in the bottom of the ninth to force extras on an RBI single by Don Buford and a poorly timed error by Eddie Collins Sr that allowed Brooks Robinson to score. It went all the way to the 13th and in the bottom of the 13th, Don Buford hit a one out walkoff solo HR to RF on a 1-1 pitch.

The A's then stormed to victory behind the marvelous pitching of Chief Bender (maybe they should've used him a little earlier in the series? Ah well, that's hindsight for you) in Game 3. Game 4 was another humdinger, with the A's building a 3-1 lead heading to the ninth only to see it disappear again on Mark Belanger's RBI double, and another ill-timed error, this time with 2 outs by Home Run Baker, (who had three in the game) to tie the score at three as Mark Belanger raced home with the tieing run. It stayed that way all the way until the 14th inning when a fielders choice by Chico Salmon scored Dave May (who got his sweet revenge after being plunked on the first pitch of the inning by Herb Pennock). Eddie Watt, Pete Richert, and Dick Hall combined to throw down 6 innings of 3-hit shutout ball in a stellar relief effort.

That pretty much took the starch out of the Athletics, who gave up 8 runs in the 4th inning of a 9-3 blowout in Game 5 to finish off the series. Boog Powell pulled off a rare feat in the finale belting a leadoff solo shot and following up with a two out grand slam in the same inning to ice the series. Powell was named MVP despite only hitting .190 with no RBI outside of that magical inning. Oh well, whatevs. Series recap below:
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The AI makes some bizarre choices in this mode. This time it decided Pete Rose Sr (.406 OBP in 1975) was not worthy of a starting spot. As the Aflac duck would say: "Huh?" Instead Dan Driessen started at 3B in all seven games with Tony Perez at 1B. Once again "Huh?".

Despite this oddity, the Reds were able to push the series to 7 games. The 1975 Reds outscored the 1937 Yankees 40-37 in this slugfest of a series, but were unable to prevail. In the end, Bill Dickey was just too much for the Reds, as he hit .481/.533/.778 with 1 HR and 10 RBI and captured MVP honours.

The teams basically traded blows with scores of 9-0, 9-0, 5-2, and 8-1 to open the series tied at 2. Then came the pivotal Game 5. An error by Concepcion, an RBI single by Bill Dickey and a 2-run single by Joe DiMaggio put the Yankees up 4-0 after 2 innings. RBI groundouts by Ken Griffey Sr., and Dave Concepcion, a 2-run single by Don Gullett, and a sac fly by Cesar Geronimo put the Reds up 5-4 after six. The lead didn't last long as the Yankees put up two in the seventh on an RBI double by Tony Lazzeri, and a bases loaded walk to Frankie Crosetti. Dan Driessen tied it at six in the bottom of the eighth with a solo HR. The Bombers took the lead for good in the ninth as Red Rolfe's single off Rawly Eastwick drove home Tommy Henrich. Pat Malone took over in the ninth and retired the Reds without incident despite a single by Tony Perez. He struck out George Foster to drop the hammer on a huge game.

Game six appeared close, but the Reds had the lead the whole way and won it 11-9, which set up Game 7. Tony Lazzeri's 2-run single put the Yanks up 2-0 in the first, but this one was far from over. An RBI single by Geronimo and a sac fly by Gary Nolan tied the score right away in the top of the second. The top of the fourth was a bit of a comedy of errors as Driessen reached on an error by Lazzeri and scored on a throwing error by Dickey trying to nab Concepcion at second on a steal attempt. Geronimo hit a sac fly and the Reds were up 4-2 after 4. They could almost taste it, but it was not to be as the Yanks would score one on a ground ball double play in the sixth, one on an RBI single by Dickey in the seventh, and two more in the eighth on a two out RBI double by George Selkirk followed by an RBI single from Tommy Henrich. Lefty Gomez retired Driessen, Concepcion and Geronimo in order in the ninth and the Yankees took the series in 7. Tough loss for the Big Red Machine, but the 1937 Yankees are going to the Elite Eight, and the 1975 Reds are goin' home. Game 7 box in two parts, Game 7 log of 8th inning, and Series Recap below:
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Let's set up the Elite Eight shall we?:

Babe Ruth Quarter of the Draw:

33) 1998 Braves (12-4)
40) 1971 Orioles (12-4)

Willie Mays Quarter of the Draw:

5) 1927 Yankees (12-6)
29) 1954 Yankees (12-4)

Walter Johnson Quarter of the Draw:

2) 1902 Pirates (12-7)
55) 1938 Yankees (12-8)

Cy Young Quarter of the Draw:

14) 1969 Orioles (12-4)
22) 1937 Yankees (12-5)

Not exactly how you would've drawn it up when this whole journey began, but hey...That's baseball.

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One more sweep this time around (and completely unexpected it was), so after 56 7-game series, we've now seen only seven sweeps. Ten series have gone 5 games, Nineteen have gone 6, and an incredible twenty have gone the distance. Still pretty close to 70% of the series' are going at least six games. I don't think I could ask for much more than that.

3 more "upsets" this round brings us to 23, which has resulted in only the 1902 Pirates and the 1927 Yankees making it as far as they should have, given their rankings. The 1938 Yankees continue to defy the odds, and have gotten by some very stiff competition to make it this far. Earle Combs and Bill Dickey are the only two time series MVPs whose teams are still alive. Billy Johnson and Joe Medwick also won it twice, but unfortunately their teams are no longer in the tournament. The 1947 Yankees were bounced by the 1971 Orioles, while the 1941 Dodgers received their comeuppance from the 1902 Pirates.

I'm going to try to stick to a schedule that will see the Final Four go on Saturday, and the finals go sometime on Monday, much like the NCAA tournament that is going on right now. Stay tuned... You just never know what's gonna happen...

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I'm going to sound like the nerd-dork I probably am, but maybe the 1948 Indians underperformed because the game's AI jumbled their lineup out of order (and probably the Braves' too). I've noticed this happening in my Historical Exhibitions too. It's not that the lineups aren't workable (sometimes I think the AI lineup makes more sense) but it's something that bugs me, especially with historically famous lineups like the 1927 Yankees or what have you.

Then again, the 1998 Braves weren't slouches (105 wins!). If they'd played the Yankees in the WS that year instead of the Padres, it might have been a Fall Classic for the ages.

I must add more to this post, having caught myself up. It's not just subbing Dan Driessen for Pete Rose for the Big Red Machine (which is outright baffling) but also giving the 1941 Dodgers' Dolph Camilli just 5 at-bats in a 7-game series. Camilli had 641 plate appearances as the Dodgers' everyday first baseman that year. He slugged 34 homers and led the team with 120 RBIs. Jimmy Wasdell wasn't a bad player but he wasn't half as productive as Camilli.

And then, the AI snubbing Frank Robinson in favor of Don Buford for the series MVP when they beat the 1947 Yankees. Look at those stats again! Frankie got robbed!

Still, this is fun to follow along to and to discuss.

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The 1998 Braves look unstoppable right now. They swept the 1971 Orioles right out of the tournament 4-0, outscoring them 31-9. Wow. Just wow. They're going to need to feel invincible if they want to get past either the 1927 Yankees or the 1954 Yankees, but for now they can chill and wait to see who their opponent will be in the Final Four. Not much to say about this series. The Orioles had a 3-1 lead after 1 and a 4-1 lead after 7 in Game 4, but their bullpen could not hold it, and the Braves tied it in the eighth and won it in the tenth. Chipper Jones was every bit as dominant as his team in snagging MVP honours, and he hit a huge game tying 2-run HR in the eighth inning of Game 4. He hit a staggering .500/.566/1.250 with 4 HR and 9 RBI...In a 4 game series...Uh...Yeah.

I will post the boxscore of the final game (in two parts) and the game log of same as well as the Series Recap. Game 4 was the only one that was remotely close, as the Orioles only led for the first half inning of Game 1 outside of the six innings they had the lead in Game 4. Utter domination...Again...Wow.
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Another wow has gone down. The 1954 Yankees knocked out the 1927 Yankees with relative ease 4 games to 1. The 1954 Bombers outscored the 1927 Yanks 17-11, but if you take off the 6-0 whitewashing by the 1927 Yanks in Game 3, it was 17-5 and really, not all that close at all. The big boppers Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig, were unable to hit at all outside of the Game 3 victory for the 1927 Yanks. Ruth and Gehrig were 4 for 9 in Game 3 with 2 RBI. Outside of that, they didn't show up (1 for 29 with an RBI on a groundout by the Iron Horse), and that's why "Murderer's Row" is goin' home, instead of on to the Final Four. Pity poor Bob Meusel. All he did was hit .478 - unfortunately the rest of his team hit just .146 (21 for 144). Not gonna get it done I'm afraid. They were kinda pushing their luck in the previous round against the 1910 Athletics, and this time lady luck ran out.

Bob Grim captured the MVP for the 1954 Bombers, going 2-0 with a 0.66 ERA in 2 starts. Nothing to see here really folks. No real close games outside of Game 2 where the 1954 Yankees overcame a 1-0 deficit after 6 innings. Other than that, the team that grabbed the lead won the game, period. Not really much else to say. The Series Recap below:
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A thriller of a series has ended with the 1938 Yankees upsetting the 1902 Pirates to continue on their improbable run. They will now move on to the Final Four against the winner of the 1969 Orioles and the 1937 Yankees. They were outscored 24-21 by the Pirates, and outerred the Pirates 21-13, but in the end they were the ones who came out on top.

This series had it all, including an 18-inning game that finished with reserve RF Bill A Miller picking up the save in a 5-2 Pirate win. The opening game was a 10-inning nailbiter, with the Yankees eventually prevailing 3-2. Game 5 was a back and forth affair, with the Yankees going up 4-0 in the third inning on an RBI single by Gehrig, a two-run triple by Henrich, and an RBI groundout by Joe Gordon. In the fifth inning the Pirates would get to within one on a two-run single by Tommy Leach and an RBI single by Claude Ritchey. In the 7th, Leach would triple and score on a wild pitch to Ritchey to knot the score at four. It stayed that way until the bottom of the ninth when Frankie Crosetti led off with a walk, went to third on a single by Red Rolfe and came home with the winning run on a passed ball during Bill Dickey's at bat (Oh, now I see why he was named the MVP...Uh, not ).

The AI gave Bill Dickey the MVP (.375/.444/.531, 1 HR, 3 RBI), but if you ask me it was Lefty Gomez. He pitched a CG 3-1 loss in Game 2, in which he allowed no earned runs, a 16.0 inning start (219 pitches!) in Game 4, in which he allowed two unearned runs, and a CG 4-hit shutout in the deciding Game 7, but hey what do I know, I'm just some dork havin' a lot of fun with this new feature.

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