SBC (Predecessor of SRL) Champions going into 1877 season

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Okay, let's try this, for starters. txranger may have made these items, but not sure, at the moment. May have to put these pictures in two posts, however. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Jerseys I like, at least to a degree, that seem to fit the usual current timeframe here, at least for known historical teams, are below for a few teams, That is all. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Caps I like, that perhaps might fit the time period or periods in question. That is all. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

That looks like the work of txranger… he is the only one that I know of that does old-fashioned logo and jerseys like this.

I doubt if you get anyone to do this type of logo, jersey and caps for you.
I think txranger was the only one interested in the old stuff.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Knuckler didn't make many jerseys reminiscent of times before the 1950's, and probably won't, if he's still around and all? I haven't seen him on the boards for a while, so I hope he's okay. I do like interlocking letters, but not sure how I can do them with teams like Sdala Neamon, for instance. I'd like to have interlocking letters on Sdala Neamon's road/away jerseys at least, similar to how the Yankees, for instance, have them, but I've not figured that out yet.

I don't know if those companies/organizations ever actually existed, or still do, if they did way back when. But looks at least a little bit like any of those items, for instance, might be suitable for teams from that time period, even if they're in fictional cities from fictional nations of mine, I think. At least at certain times, anyway, that is.

There are places to get free fonts, for sure, all over the Net, at least. But many of the fonts online are probably ones most people would typically have to pay for in order to use them, or have certain limitations in terms of use for them, of course. And not being as good at art-related things as many others, or as good at it as I may be with my writing ability, I'm not as sure that I can make suitable enough logos for teams or leagues like others might be able to.

I know the saying, Art is in the eye of the beholder, but still, I don't think I'm as good artistically around here as many others are, to be honest. Then again, God gave each of us different abilities in life, as you know. At least I can say this, when I try to do my art-type things, though. I always try to do the best I can, and try to be as original as I can, and all, of course.

Will talk more later, no doubt, if possible. Thank you for your input and all, for sure, Eugene. It is a pleasure to try and get to know you better, I think. Even if I can be stubborn at times, and even if it's hard for me to understand what people are trying to tell me at times for at least a little while, I still feel that way about you, at least. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I'm going to wait a little longer to see if anyone might say anything more related to Anashe, before I perhaps post a Maholin Rustlers-related thread. I tried to use a font reminiscent of the Old/Wild West for them, given the team nickname of Rustlers. But I'm not sure yet just how well I pulled it off, in terms of the caps and jerseys.

The Anashe look may be too modern-looking, in terms of the fonts and whatnot, I admit, Eugene. But I still tried to make them somewhat different than any of the other teams I've done in the past besides them, in any case.

In terms of names used by many in Ruifrapso Sokumi, where they aren't quite similar to Slaabinese (Slaabovian-type) names, they're often influenced by Japanese, Spanish, Hebrew, English, and Gaelic names. Although their musical tastes don't always get influenced by people from those parts of the world, in terms of real countries, at least, there is some mixture of assorted cultural influences, including some French/Caribbean/African traces, at least, I think, at times.

I'm not sure how I could best describe it to you in a manner that you might understand, at least in and around the Anashe area in Ruifrapso Sokumi, but I'll still try. Think a bit of classical music mixed with jazz, Latin music, and maybe bits of touches of gospel and/or Asian-style music, perhaps. Mostly strings and trumpets mixed with some drums and vocals, in various languages, I think.

Talk more later, as possible, I'm sure. Thanks for your input and all, as always. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

knuckler never made old style logos, jerseys and caps.
He made me hundreds of logos, jerseys and caps over the past 10 years... Most of my IPA graphics were made by him … maybe 75% of them.

I don't think he will be back on the Forum... I don't know why he left... I just know he did the best work of anybody over a long, long period of time... and he didn't just do it for me... he did it for many, many people.

I miss his work... but more than that I miss his friendship.
knuckler is a special human being... a really, really good guy.

[Eugene Church]

Do you want the Maholin Rustlers jerseys and caps like you posted here for me on page 35 in this thread?... or do you want the Rustlers made in the old style like txranger creates?

The ones you posted for me are not old style, they just are unusual in color, texture and design.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I'm using them already, or will, but I still have no logos for them, in terms of Maholin and its caps and/or jerseys. I'd need logos, however, at least, for them. I posted some examples of looks I might like to see for shapes related to the logos of certain teams, up above, to be sure. But I really don't know if I can make them well enough myself to satisfy me sufficiently, as of yet, at least. That's all. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Sometimes, it's quite hard for me to post exactly what I mean, in terms of preferred looks for teams, in ways that others can understand and work with. I mean, I can visualize, at least to a degree, how i might want them to look, if at all possible, but the execution of said creative designs is often very hard for me to accomplish by myself.

I still don't have a logo or logos for Worcester's Ruby Legs, either. I've done caps and jerseys for them already, but I don't know how close they are to what they might have worn in their brief known real-world history as a major league franchise, to be sure. And I don't know what they would perhaps look like after 1901, for instance, if they still somehow existed in any league, at any level. And can't really imagine how their looks might have changed between then and now, either, come to think of it.

Will write more later, I'm sure, if possible. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

I'm using them already, or will, but I still have no logos for them, in terms of Maholin and its caps and/or jerseys. I'd need logos, however, at least, for them. I posted some examples of looks I might like to see for shapes related to the logos of certain teams, up above, to be sure. But I really don't know if I can make them well enough myself to satisfy me sufficiently, as of yet, at least. That's all. CD out.

All you want for the Rustlers is a Primary Logo and a Secondary Logo done in the old txranger style?

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

That would probably be best. I'd still like to see if someone else could create a logo or logos in styles sort of like the examples either for teams or for companies/organizations that I posted earlier for the Anashe Jazz, even if the fonts would be different than the ones on the caps or jerseys, before I'd post any new thread related to Maholin in any way whatsoever, however.

I'd prefer them to not look too similar to any present or historical pro sports team named the Jazz, if possible, but to actually have an original enough take on things as best as any designer here could come up with, I think. The more that a designer could surprise me, the better, of course. If that's not possible, then so be it.

There are already good logos present in the Anashe-related thread, but someone said that the more options I'd have, the better I might like them, if I remember correctly. Maybe it was you, or grumpy, or someone else. Not sure at the moment. Anyway, I do seriously appreciate all the help and patience that others have shown me in the past at times, to be sure. Even when I've been hard to deal with at times, Eugene.

Talk more later, I hope. May you have pleasant dreams tonight, then, Lord willing, of course, Eugene, if we don't hear from each other again before one of us goes to bed tonight. Shalom. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Good night, CD.

May Jesus bless us all abundantly.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Here's a general map of Ruifrapso Sokumi, at least in terms of named and labeled provinces/territories for it, as it now stands for me. Although in-game, those areas would be considered states, for OOTP and/or FHM-related purposes, I think. Of course, this is only a rudimentary map at best of the country, and I've probably posted it at least once before in this thread or at least one other one, if not both here and elsewhere on the forums.

I don't have a detailed map made for them yet, showing where certain places in it might be, for example. But this particular fictional country would perhaps be somewhere to the west or northwest of Slaabovia, I think, if both countries were on the same map together. Just so you know. CD out.

P.S. Slaabovia's main landmass would probably be centered at or around 30 degrees North Latitude and 46 degrees West Longitude, and Lima in Follisland would probably be in that general area, if it were shown on a map, somehow. Those coordinates are in the middle of the North Atlantic in or around where the Sargasso Sea is, if memory serves, for our real world. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Please feel free to share my Anashe Jazz-related thoughts with the others watching that thread, if you like, in terms of my preferred looks, et cetera, or not, if you don't. I've not commented in that thread again for a while, as you know. Thanks. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Please feel free to share my Anashe Jazz-related thoughts with the others watching that thread, if you like, in terms of my preferred looks, et cetera, or not, if you don't. I've not commented in that thread again for a while, as you know. Thanks. CD out.

It looks like no one is going to do the Anashe Jazz.

No one apparently wants to do pre-1910 style logos, jerseys and caps... just about all I ever see is requests for post 1950 and modern style graphics.

Do you only want old-fashioned style logos?
If so, you are wasting your time on the Graphics Forum.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Why do you think that is, that people seem to want to generally only do graphics for eras beginning around 1950 or so, or later, around here, at least for the most part? Just wondering, that's all.

Part of my current team and/or league-related problem here, no doubt, is due to my earlier errors, foolish or whatever they might have been, yet I don't think that's the only reason certain looks haven't been done for me or others around here, of course. I certainly didn't help certain matters in many cases around here. But it still seems to me, somehow, that pre-1950 looks have mostly been neglected or not even thought of, generally speaking, by many people here, for various teams and/or leagues.

True, there may have not been much innovation, at least in terms of logos and wordmarks and all, for various teams in most known historical leagues, when it came to their looks and all, but still there was at least some, I'm sure, prior to 1950. And several teams took a while to get to their best-known and most famous looks too, I think. The Cardinals, for example, took at least a little while before they ultimately settled on the looks that have largely defined them for decades, you know.

Mainly, I'm looking for looks that would most likely fit logically and all in certain time periods that my various teams and/or leagues would exist in, if not entirely. At this time, that would generally be anywhere between 1871 and 1910 or 1920, I think. Of course, I don't plan to keep those games in that general timeframe forever, if I can possibly avoid doing so. But, generally speaking, my leagues are only advanced to somewhere in the 1910's at best, except for my Cardinals-related dynasty currently in 1934, if memory serves me correctly, right now.

So I guess anyone who wants looks from before 1950 will generally have to make them themselves, I take it. Especially me, for as you said, I'm probably not very popular on the boards with pretty much everyone else on the boards, at least for the most part, for obvious reasons, and for logical enough reasons, and all.

And there's no point in me asking txranger for help at this time, either. For he won't do anything more for me for quite some time, if ever, unless God convinces him to change his mind about me and all, no doubt. Among others, probably, as well, of course.

Will write more later, then, I'm sure, if possible. Take care, and enjoy yourself around here, as best as you can, I hope, Eugene. CD out.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Why do you think that is, that people seem to want to generally only do graphics for eras beginning around 1950 or so, or later, around here, at least for the most part? Just wondering, that's all.
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People pick their graphics to match the baseball era they play... as I understand it most of the OOTP Community plays 1950 to modern day leagues.

Few people are interested in pre-1900 baseball... that's it.

You just have to accept it.

[Eugene Church]

CD, you need to stop trying to get your dream world graphics on the OOTP Graphics Forum.

It's not going to happen... your tastes are unusual... you are in a very small minority of people who want old style graphics.

Listen to me... here is my best advice for you... look at all the team logos, jerseys and caps that you now have in your possession that you like and use them in your leagues.

Stop worrying about your dream graphics... it is highly unlikely you are going to get them... spend your time on playing your leagues and just enjoying the game... use the graphics you now have.

You could also play modern day baseball using real teams and use the logos, jerseys and caps that have already been done.

Or you could pick fictional teams already done expertly by low, knuckler, txranger, Lawn Loaf and many other people on the Graphics Forum.

Those are your choices... you need to make your decision.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I wouldn't call it worrying, Eugene. Maybe wishing and hoping, I suppose, might be a better way of putting it, in terms of graphics, where I'm having trouble making them myself, for instance, if not finding them, et cetera.

True, given recent problems I've had here on the forums, you're probably right, in terms of pretty much anyone doing logos and all from the dead ball era, for example. Either for me or anyone else, at that.

Eventually I do hope to get to later time periods, but haven't been able to do so yet, for various reasons, you know. Whether I will or not, ultimately, remains to be seen, of course.

Why do you think most players don't generally start leagues prior to 1901, for example, around here? I'm just wondering, that's all.

I'm going to try to do more items myself, of course, as time and inspiration permits, Lord willing and all. It may be a while before I can come up with looks I'm satisfied enough with for certain teams, if I have to do them myself, however.

Not to mention, I have other things that periodically occupy my time as well, including, of course, reading my Bible and all, you know. Or trying to work on my stories and all.

I hope someday to eventually be a professionally published author, but in order to be one, I'll certainly have to write better in order to have a chance at that sort of thing, I"m sure. As you've no doubt noticed before, I have a considerable problem with conciseness, and focus, among other things, unfortunately.

IF, by some chance, I was actually able to produce a sufficiently good story/book, and get it actually published for profit, might you consider buying it, if you knew it was a book by me? Just curious, that's all, Eugene. CD out.