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Old 10-07-2007, 01:47 PM   #21
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Thanks for your previous answer! Great to see that the Expos was more succesfull than there real counterpart.

If you have the time, there is some other Montreal players :

Wallace Johnson
Terry Franconna
Mitch Webster
Scott Sanderson
Charlie Lea
David Palmer
Tim Burke
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Old 10-07-2007, 03:09 PM   #22
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Just to let you know, after reading this and seeing how cool is was, I decided to try the same thing on my own. I was just wondering what settings did you use where it only took you 8.5 hours. I've been simming for about 10 hours now and I'm up to 1940, with a pretty solid computer too. 2 gigs of RAM, dual core processor and 140 GB of hard drive space, plus no other apps running.

Also a few players I'd like to see:
Chuck Knoblauch
Robin Yount
Paul Molitor
Ben Ogilvie
Gorman Thomas

Also did the Crew ever win the World Series?
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Old 10-07-2007, 07:58 PM   #23
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I don't have time to look up players at the moment, but to answer your question about the settings Brewers194, I'm running a similar setup - 2 gigs, dual core 2.6ghz CPUs, 200+ gigs of HD space with nothing else running. I had three levels of minors, saved all splits/postseason/whatever the other option for stats are, didn't save any box scores or game logs.
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:40 PM   #24
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When you get a chance, could you look up Gerald Moses? He was my dad's next door neighbor growing up. Thanks.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:26 AM   #25
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Roger Clemens
Clemens pitched from '83 through 2000, going 252-192 (tied for 53rd most victories with Dwight Gooden and several others) with a 3.87 ERA over 4083 innings (76th all-time) and 4282 strikeouts (4th, behind Sam McDowell, Schilling and Satchel Paige). Every single one of his 592 games was a start. He only won one Cy Young (1987 - 17-7, 3.06, 244 IP, 302 Ks) and made 6 AS appearances. He had his best years with the team that drafted him, the Blue Jays. His best season was 1984 when he went 17-10 with a 1.91 ERA and 257 Ks in 254.2 innings. He lost the '84 award to Randy Martz (21-7, 2.17 ERA, 167 Ks, 103 BBs, 7 HRs in 241 IP). After his first six seasons were with Toronto he jump shipped in free agency and signed with the Oakland Athletics, where he'd spend the rest of his career and only twice had an ERA below 3.72.

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Men who just missed the 500 mark? Ken Harrelson (498), Josh Gibson (493), Ted Williams (493). Williams' power dropped off after his 42 HR campaign in '45. He never hit more than 29 in a season through the end of his career in '56.
Aside from mysteriously losing his power, Williams racked up 2830 hits and a career .302/.409/.519 line for the Tigers, White Sox, Giants, Senators, White Sox again, Giants again, St. Louis Browns and the Senators again. He got 4 MVPs, Rookie of the Year, 1 Gold Glove and was a 10 time AS.

Hurst pitched his whole six year career with the Yankees. His second year was his best, as he went 16-14 with a 2.72 ERA over 267 IP. He was on his way to becoming a solid innings eater whose peak seasons would push the Yankees towards contention. After his third year, 1979, he was hit by mysterious talent drops (some blame the cocaine that ballplayers frequently used at this time) and was never the same again.

Monbouquette also had a six year career, but he was more effective through his decline years than Hurst even though both suffered talent drops after year three. He went 69-61 for the Cardinals with a 3.70 ERA in more than 1100 innings.

Vida Blue is yet another six year guy, but his talent drop didn't come until after his fifth season. He pitched only 3.1 innings in his last, but totaled 1177 for his career with a 75-56 record and a 3.33 ERA to go along with 1042 Ks.

All three of these pitchers were All Stars at least once.

Big Six had five dominating seasons for the Giants before having two down years and finishing his career after the 1907 seasons. He went 109-83 with a 2.32 ERA over 1747 innings. In 1902 he went 28-6, 1.68, 327 IP and won the Cy Young Award (officially named Best Hurler Award in my reality, actually).
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:55 PM   #26
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Wade Boggs
Don Mattingly
Todd Helton
Boggs debuted in '76 for the California Angels, getting 10 ABs over 2 games. He got three hits and scored two runs. He then had four seasons in a row in which he never hit below .324 or had fewer than 195 hits. He had 233 hits in 1979. His 1981 season continued the trend, as he hit .299 with 198 hits. After this remarkable run he was hit with the Mysterious Talent Drop. He'd hit .270 with a .301 OBP in 1982 and then never saw the major leagues again. He won 4 Gold Glove and was a 3 time All Star.

Mattingly had a cup of coffee and then two excellent seasons for the Mets, hitting .360/.420/.556 with 27 HRs in 1982. He then got a Mysterious Talent Drop, but his ratings were so high that he was still able to produce three more seasons of at least a 54 VORP and one of a 20 VORP before fading away. He bounced around the minors a bit, getting a little playing time here and there in the bigs until retiring after the '96 season.

Helton is still going strong and has played his entire career for the Pittsburgh Pirates. He and Curt Schilling are the best of friends. Helton won the RoY, one MVP and has been an All Star five times. His career line is .323/.406/.557 and he has scored almost 1500 runs, gotten 2401 hits, 561 doubles, 361 HRs, 1331 RBIs and has 59 career steals (with 12 CS). At the age of 34 he's still rated 9/9/8/8/6, though his ratings have slipped a little below his 9/9/8/10/7 Potentials.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:32 PM   #27
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How many championships did the Royals win?

How did George Brett, Bret Saberhagen and Willie Wilson do?

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Old 10-08-2007, 04:47 PM   #28
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Bernie Williams
Paul O'Neil

Ok. That's it.
Finally done with these Yankees. :P

Williams played twenty big league seasons, debuting at the age of 17. He amassed 2332 hits with a .276/.316/.395 overall line. He never stole bases and rarely walked - I can't believe he lasted that long as a regular. His best season was 1989 when he hit .286/.334/.377 and put up a 28.8 VORP. He won five Gold Gloves and was once an All Star.

O'Neill was a good regular for the Baltimore Orioles from his 1984 rookie year through the 1987 season. After the '87 season he dropped a little in ratings/potentials (from 7/6/6 to 6/6/5) and was never a starter again. From '88 until his retirement after '98 he played for the Orioles, Astros, Dodgers, Athletics, Cubs, Pirates and Red Sox. He wound up with 1106 career hits.
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:37 AM   #29
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I simmed through the 2008 season to make sure I correctly answered Purple Cowboy's question about historical simming into the future, so the modern numbers have changed a little. As usual, I'll pretty much only list big league numbers even if the guy got a lot of minor league service time.

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Wallace Johnson
Terry Franconna
Mitch Webster
Scott Sanderson
Charlie Lea
David Palmer
Tim Burke
Wallace Johnson had 1 career hit in 9 ABs. Francona had 68 hit in 262 ABs over eight seasons for the Brewers and Twins.

Mitch Webster played for the Expos for seven seasons and was a starter in three of them. He hit .269/.307/.370 over that time. He probably could have developed into a useful player (he hit .304 in 1979), but was hit by the Talent Drop Plague after his fourth season.

Sanderson was an effective pitcher for the Blue Jays, Giants, Orioles and Braves over his seven year career. He tossed 1244 innings over 230 games - 164 of them starts. His career ERA was 3.80 and he went 69-76 with 2 saves. His rookie campaign was good, but his third season was better - 16-15, 3.28, 271 IP and 175 Ks. He should have continued like that but got a Talent Drop in Stuff and went from a 5 to a 2. He kept his Control and Movement for the rest of his career, but was never the same without the strikeouts.

Charlie Lea had seven decent years and an eighth cup of coffee seasons at the end of his career. He pitched exclusively for the Cubs, going 87-83 with a 3.39 ERA in 1564 innings. His 15-9, 2.63 ERA over 253 innings earned him an All Star spot in 1981.

David Palmer was lights out his first two years in the league ('76 and '77) for the White Sox - 31-23, 3.40 ERA (roughly), 453.2 IP. He strained his shoulder at the end of the '77 season and received a Talent Drop that January, never to be the same again. He pitched through the '86 season for the ChiSox, but was only 87-96 with a 4.68 in 1487 innings for them.

Tim Burke was a Milwaukee Brewer for his entire 18 year career. He got in 941 games, all out of the bullpen, throwing 1366 innings. He started out as their closer, amassing 70 saves and an ERA just over 2 in his first two seasons before being cursed by the Talent Drop Fairy. He was obviously pretty good before, because he still managed to put up a career 3.87 ERA with a 79-58 record and 138 total saves. His 941 appearances puts him 70th all time. 38 of the players ahead of him retired at least one season after him or are still active (17).
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:23 PM   #30
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How about:

Mike Donlin
Eddie Plank
Johnny Kling
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:47 PM   #31
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Thanks for the lookups!

How about these four:
Bo Jackson
Deion Sanders
Darryl Kile
Corey Lidle
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:45 PM   #32
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Chuck Knoblauch
Robin Yount
Paul Molitor
Ben Ogilvie
Gorman Thomas

Also did the Crew ever win the World Series?
Knoblauch had a pretty decent career. He debuted in 1989 for the New York Mets and played with them through the '98 season before going to the Yankees. He bounced around with a couple of teams for two or three years at the end of his career (he retired after '06) but most of his offensive damage came in his New York career. He wound up with 2195 hits, a .298/.369/.413 line and 256 career steals. He never won a Gold Glove.

One year after being drafted Yount angered the OOTP gods and lost some Potential. He played 93 games in 1973 for the Twins and hit .263/.294/.380. He never saw the majors again.

Paul Molitor was a 5 time Gold Glover (winning at both 2nd and 3rd base) and 2 time All Star. Drafted by the Cubs in '76, he spent no time in the minors and was on the Opening Day '77 roster (my draft is in November for import database purposes). He hit .306/.350/.474 as a rook, with 31 2Bs, 12 3Bs, 18 HRs and 199 overall total hits. In his free agent year he would be traded to the Reds, but signed with the Kansas City Royals after that seasons. After four years there he signed with the Twins, where he'd spend the rest of his career and retired after the '94 season. He played in more than 2600 games, scoring 1534 runs, getting 3119 hits (one of 70-somethin' people to cross the 3,000 hit mark), 552 doubles, 132 3Bs, 176 HRs, 1156 RBIs, 272 steals and a career .288/.331/.412 line.

Oglivie amassed 2830 hits for the Twins, Mets, Blue Jays and Pirates from '69 through '86. He scored almost 1500 runs, belted 349 HRs and knocked in 1450 runs. He finished with a .294/.363/.461 line and 10 All Star appearances.

Gorman Thomas never played in the bigs, but was a 9 time Gold Glover in the minors. He had 5/8/7 talents when he was drafted by the Cubs, but those dropped to 1/3/1 after a year.

Milwaukee first made the playoffs in 1972 but would not get there again until 1985. The Brewers defeated the Philadelphia Phillies to bring Milwaukee their first World Series ring in 1987 amidst a four year playoff run by the club which saw them lose the '85 Series to the Phils and the '86 series to the Dodgers. Those teams were led by career Brewer Mickey Klutts at 2B, 20 year Brewer (but not career!) Tom O'Malley at 3B, career Brewer Sweet Lou Whitaker at SS and career Brewer Jesse Barfield in RF.

They won another World Series in '93, but only Barfield remained on the club (as he would all the way through 1997). They were in the playoffs again '99 and 2000, but didn't win the Series.

I guess they had success building from within.

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There is no Gerald Moses in my game. There's only Felix, Wally, Jerry and John. Assuming Jerry is our man, he played seven seasons with the Mets and one with the Phillies, never getting much playing time (248 career games) or success (.256/.280/.378).
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:31 PM   #33
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I just have to know about some of the 1993 Phillies. How about:
Darren Daulton
John Kruk
Lenny Dykstra
Tommy Greene
Mickey Morandini
and, my personal favorite (Hey, I was 9, cut me some slack!)
Kevin Stocker

I'm doing one of these replays myself now, thanks to reading yours. I'll post the results after it finishes up.
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:15 PM   #34
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How many championships did the Royals win?

How did George Brett, Bret Saberhagen and Willie Wilson do?

Thanks!
Kansas City? Championships? You're funny. They made the playoffs in 1970, 2003, 2005 and 2007. The '03 team had Brian Daubach, Kevin Youkilis and Bill Mueller as starting infielders. Daubach was out after '05 but Jason Varitek became the starting catcher in '04 and the other two stuck around for '07 as well.....

Brett played for, of all teams, the Red Sox. He was about a .310 hitter for the first seven and a half years of his career before getting hit with Talent drops. He lost his starting job but stuck with the Sox for four more seasons getting a handful of ABs a year. Finished his career with one year and 45 ABs in St. Louis. Racked up 1360 career hits. .299/.346/.442

Sabes had six and a third mediocre years for the Expos. 63-88, 4.87, 1264 IP. He suffered a big Talent drop the year after his rookie season.

Wilson had five ok years for the Cardinals before, you guessed it, a talent drop. Over those five seasons he generally hit .300 with a .320 OBP (ugh) and just shy of 40 steals a year. He had one bad year for the Cards as a starter and then left the club and totalled about 600 ABs over the next 11 years of his career. 256 career steals, 1339 hits.

Talent change randomness is at 100. I dropped it to 75 for the 1901-2007 league I'm playing out. I find it balances out better for what I want even though I leave recalc off.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:09 AM   #35
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How about Pete Gray and Jim Abbott?
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How about:

Mike Donlin
Eddie Plank
Johnny Kling
My evil alter ego returns!

Donlin had more longevity than his real life counterpart, but wasn't quite as good. He played for the Baltimore/New York organization, the Browns, the Cubs and a single year with the Giants. He totaled 2447 hits with 784 steals, 495 CS and a .287/.359/.398 line. He got one MVP award, one Gold Glove and once had a 37 game hit streak.

This is one of the few times I've seen Eddie Plank perform poorly. I don't know why either - over the course of his career he only dropped from an 11 to an 8 in Movement and no other categories and in early baseball Movement just isn't that important. He had four decent years with the Athletics, including his best season, 1904. That year he was 18-16 with a 2.19 ERA in 304 IP. But after that he only pitched 70 more big league innings before retiring after the 1906 season.

Kling was a bust. He somehow stuck around until the 2010 season but only got 318 hits with a .224/.242/.261 line.

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I enjoy doing it. I wasn't expecting this many requests though - threads like this usually seem to die after about half a dozen or so. I guess I just timed it pretty well.

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Bo Jackson
Deion Sanders
Darryl Kile
Corey Lidle
Jackson never developed his Contact ability and when he did get to play, he never flashed his power. In ten years he only received 1500 ABs, hitting 44 HRs for a .226/.309/.346 line. He actually improved his Eye as his career went on without a subsequent drop in Power, but the man just didn't make enough contact for anyone to give him a real chance.

Sanders somehow managed to talk his way into 2600 ABs over a 12 year career despite hitting .242/.275/.330. 120 steals, 74 caught, not much else to say.

After his first minor league season Kile was hit by the Talent Drop Disease, losing Stuff and Control. He still made it to the bigs after a few years, debuting in 1989 for the Yankees where he'd spend his entire career. In 1990 he had a 4.89 ERA in 236 innings and a 13-13 record, the beneficiary of a slight improvement in Stuff and Control prior to the season. He then improved for two straight years, dropping his ERA below 4.00 and pitching more than 250 innings both times. Then, of course, more Talent drops. He stuck around for three horrible seasons and finally posted a halfway decent one in his 1996 farewell tour - 15-10, 4.48, 193 IP. For his career he went 87-77, 4.93 in 1400 innings.

Cory Lidle threw six innings combined in 99 and 2000 for the Cardinals, then disappeared from the bigs until totaling less than 20 innings combined from 2004 through 2006 for the Marlins. Career line - 1-3, 7.71, 25.2 IP.
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Did I read somewhere that you have your league importing players in November?

My current sim imports them in early February - after the free agent period.

How do you change that to November?

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Did I read somewhere that you have your league importing players in November?

My current sim imports them in early February - after the free agent period.

How do you change that to November?
I did it when I set up the league. November 15th is my draft date. The DB I use suggest that be the date so if a player made his pro debut in, say, 1970, he'd be in the 1969 draft class.
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Babe Ruth was a mediocre pitcher with the Yankees for his entire career which lasted only until 1919. He retired after that season.
Heh. I just ran a similar sim, and Babe spent his entire career (1913-1928) laboring as a mediocre minor league pitcher. Never saw one day in the bigs.
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I did it when I set up the league. November 15th is my draft date. The DB I use suggest that be the date so if a player made his pro debut in, say, 1970, he'd be in the 1969 draft class.
Is there a way to change that date without using an amateur draft?
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