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Old 03-19-2018, 05:27 PM   #1
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Scroll down versus see each page

Is there a way to change a screen (say the "See all MLB players" screen) so that it is all there and you just scroll up or down as you please instead of individual pages?
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Old 03-19-2018, 05:29 PM   #2
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When there are more than 1000 players in a list the game automatically displays it using the page selector, otherwise the list would become pretty slow when populating with stats or scrolling.

You still can use your mouse scroll wheel when the page selectors are active.
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Old 03-23-2018, 04:12 AM   #3
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When there are more than 1000 players in a list the game automatically displays it using the page selector, otherwise the list would become pretty slow when populating with stats or scrolling.

You still can use your mouse scroll wheel when the page selectors are active.
In OOTP18 you could have more than 1,000 players in a list and be able to scroll and not use pages. Why the change for 19?

Edit: Here's a page where there are 894 players listed, I have scroll bars for player/coach lists, yet it's still using pages. - https://i.imgur.com/R0NVKGr.png

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Old 03-23-2018, 05:43 AM   #4
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In OOTP18 you could have more than 1,000 players in a list and be able to scroll and not use pages. Why the change for 19?

Edit: Here's a page where there are 894 players listed, I have scroll bars for player/coach lists, yet it's still using pages. - https://i.imgur.com/R0NVKGr.png
This is still an issue? In OOTP18 I had a list that populated the screen + 1 and it forced scroll bars.
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Old 03-23-2018, 05:48 AM   #5
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I'll have a look at this for the patch, maybe I'll up the limit to 2000. The thing is, the more players, the more unresponsive the list becomes.
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Old 03-23-2018, 05:52 AM   #6
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I'll have a look at this for the patch, maybe I'll up the limit to 2000. The thing is, the more players, the more unresponsive the list becomes.
Could there be a Windows 10 setting that causes issues? On my old laptop, I always got scroll bars with, say 900+ players. On my new laptop, it displays scroll bars with 100.
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Old 03-23-2018, 06:36 AM   #7
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FYI, here is page selectors over-riding the scroll bar option with only 80 players selected.
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Old 03-23-2018, 10:23 AM   #8
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I'm getting no scroll bars despite my settings on interface (lists as small as 100, 200 options). Only pages. Ultra annoying if I'm on a laptop without a mouse!!
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Old 03-23-2018, 10:50 AM   #9
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Could there be a Windows 10 setting that causes issues? On my old laptop, I always got scroll bars with, say 900+ players. On my new laptop, it displays scroll bars with 100.
No, not really... right now all lists should show scrollbars if the player number (excluding filters) is lower than 1000.
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Old 03-23-2018, 10:55 AM   #10
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One thing is that the decision to use scroll bars or not is actually done before any filter is applied to the list, so if you are looking at all players in the league, even if your customer filter returns 25 guys, we might still use pages because the "population" is more than 1000 players.
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Old 03-23-2018, 10:58 AM   #11
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I just looked again and it went back to scroll bars when I clicked the page to see all major league players in my league, so Markus's change must have taken effect
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Old 03-23-2018, 01:56 PM   #12
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One thing is that the decision to use scroll bars or not is actually done before any filter is applied to the list, so if you are looking at all players in the league, even if your customer filter returns 25 guys, we might still use pages because the "population" is more than 1000 players.
The game switching to pages was never an issue in 18, even with 5,000+ players in the list. I never experienced any loss in performance in those situations last year, so why the switch?

It may seem trivial if you're doing all player evaluation in game, but for those of us who create custom views and export those reports for further use in a spreadsheet, it really hampers our ability to quickly export that data.

Edit - Here's a screen from 2018 that has 3500+ players in a single list that hasn't reverted to pages. https://i.imgur.com/xe6yOpF.png

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Old 03-23-2018, 02:00 PM   #13
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The game switching to pages was never an issue in 18, even with 5,000+ players in the list. I never experienced any loss in performance in those situations last year, so why the switch?

It may seem trivial if all you're doing all player evaluation in game, but for those of us who create custom views and export those reports for further use in a spreadsheet, it really hampers are ability to quickly export that data.

Edit - Here's a screen from 2018 that has 3500+ players in a single list that hasn't reverted to pages. https://i.imgur.com/xe6yOpF.png
OK, I'll add the option for scrollbars without no limit (except the 8192 limit that lists in OOTP can handle).
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Old 03-28-2018, 07:48 AM   #14
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OK, I'll add the option for scrollbars without no limit (except the 8192 limit that lists in OOTP can handle).
Was this option not added in the patch? I cannot find it.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:08 AM   #15
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Was this option not added in the patch? I cannot find it.
No, this is for patch 2, it did not make patch 1. However, I have increased the limit to show page selectors from 1000 to 4000, as it was in OOTP 18.
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OK, I'll add the option for scrollbars without no limit (except the 8192 limit that lists in OOTP can handle).
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No, this is for patch 2, it did not make patch 1. However, I have increased the limit to show page selectors from 1000 to 4000, as it was in OOTP 18.
So we will still be able to override and not get page selectors but the default will go up from 1000 to 4000?
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Old 03-28-2018, 12:18 PM   #17
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Thanks for the change.
I'm downloading the patch at the moment, but even ifloading times are increasing, I like scrolling more than turning pages.
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:46 PM   #18
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OK, I'll add the option for scrollbars without no limit (except the 8192 limit that lists in OOTP can handle).
Did this make it in the patch? I cannot find the option.
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Old 04-10-2018, 08:36 AM   #19
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Did this make it in the patch? I cannot find the option.
Sadly not there, again. Stuck with scroll bars.
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Old 04-14-2018, 05:03 PM   #20
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Yeah, still looks like it hasn't been included in any of the patches.
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