Are Many People Seeing odd Roster Moves Still?

The Game · 01-01-2019, 07:51 PM

I dont think i have seen too many odd roster moves in 19 compared to 17 & 18 but this one struck me as odd. Maybe its just an anomaly. They signed dibble, released him then signed him to the same contract a month later.

The Game · 01-01-2019, 07:53 PM

released him again 2 days later.

The Game · 01-01-2019, 08:04 PM

Signed by Milwaukee 2/23 released 2/24

RchW · 01-01-2019, 08:07 PM

Duplicate post.

RchW · 01-01-2019, 08:09 PM

That's a known bug that occurs with specific roster limits. I can't remember what they were.

Search "sign and release". Surprised you don't know about this, having been around a while.

David Watts · 01-02-2019, 09:17 AM

One odd thing I'm seeing over and over again, is the season starting with around 2-5 solid free agents remaining unsigned. Most often these are stud relief pitchers. For example, in my current random debut league, Aroldis Chapman and Dennis Eckersly were both free agents at the end of the first season. When the second season began, they had yet to sign with a team. Both did sign in during the month of April. After the second season, both Eckersly and Chapman were free agents again. The same thing repeated itself, as both remained unsigned and signed in April after the season was underway. Anyone else seeing this?

WIUPIKE · 01-02-2019, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

One odd thing I'm seeing over and over again, is the season starting with around 2-5 solid free agents remaining unsigned. Most often these are stud relief pitchers. For example, in my current random debut league, Aroldis Chapman and Dennis Eckersly were both free agents at the end of the first season. When the second season began, they had yet to sign with a team. Both did sign in during the month of April. After the second season, both Eckersly and Chapman were free agents again. The same thing repeated itself, as both remained unsigned and signed in April after the season was underway. Anyone else seeing this?

I see this happening, but it seems that during spring training there becomes a 1 yr bidding war for relief pitchers

David Watts · 01-02-2019, 11:29 AM

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I see this happening, but it seems that during spring training there becomes a 1 yr bidding war for relief pitchers

Ah, I don't use spring training, so maybe my bidding war gets pushed into April.

WIUPIKE · 01-02-2019, 12:13 PM

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Ah, I don't use spring training, so maybe my bidding war gets pushed into April.

Even with spring training they don't eventually sign until early April for some of the players.

Drstrangelove · 01-02-2019, 03:18 PM

I don't have that issue. On opening day, there are a handful of contracts (9) being offered by the AI. The best remaining FAs are 55/80, 44/80 and 43/80. On average, teams have spending room of ~$30 million per team. In my view, that means that most FA's are still unsigned because they aren't wanted, not because they are exceptional talents holding out for more money or because teams are broke.

No contract offer (by teams) and no demand (by players) exceeds $1.6 million. I imagine one can set up a league to generate low demand (low quality players, reduced money supply, etc.) or excessive player supply, such that much better players than those will still be around, unsigned and demanding more money.

WIUPIKE · 01-02-2019, 03:37 PM

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In my league, by opening day, there's only 9 contracts being offered. The best remaining FAs are 55/80, 44/80 and 43/80. That means that most FA's are still unsigned because no one wants them, not because they are holding out for more money. No contract offer (by teams) and no demand (by players) exceeds $1.6 million. I imagine one can set up a league to generate low demand (low quality players, reduced money supply, etc.) or excessive player supply, such that much better players than those will still be around, unsigned and demanding more money. Imo, having unsigned players is a symptom, not the problem.

Have you tried offering contracts to said players. There demands on the front page do drop in time, but that does not mean they do not have contracts of higher value being offered.

Drstrangelove · 01-02-2019, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WIUPIKE

Have you tried offering contracts to said players. There demands on the front page do drop in time, but that does not mean they do not have contracts of higher value being offered.

Just to be clear, I was saying that I looked at what each team was offering AND what the players were asking for. The teams aren't offering more than $.9 mill to $1.6 mill to anyone. And none of the players are asking for more than that.

The Game · 01-03-2019, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

That's a known bug that occurs with specific roster limits. I can't remember what they were.

Search "sign and release". Surprised you don't know about this, having been around a while.

I havent see too many posts on this for 19 just 18 & 17.

RchW · 01-03-2019, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Game

I havent see too many posts on this for 19 just 18 & 17.

It's an occasional annoyance that has existed since V5 and V6. I believe the fix is to have no roster limits at your lowest minor league level.

The Game · 01-06-2019, 04:16 PM

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It's an occasional annoyance that has existed since V5 and V6. I believe the fix is to have no roster limits at your lowest minor league level.

i dont have roster limits for the lowest minor leagues so thats not it.

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01-01-2019, 08:09 PM	#5
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	That's a known bug that occurs with specific roster limits. I can't remember what they were. Search "sign and release". Surprised you don't know about this, having been around a while. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

01-02-2019, 09:17 AM	#6
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 8,865	One odd thing I'm seeing over and over again, is the season starting with around 2-5 solid free agents remaining unsigned. Most often these are stud relief pitchers. For example, in my current random debut league, Aroldis Chapman and Dennis Eckersly were both free agents at the end of the first season. When the second season began, they had yet to sign with a team. Both did sign in during the month of April. After the second season, both Eckersly and Chapman were free agents again. The same thing repeated itself, as both remained unsigned and signed in April after the season was underway. Anyone else seeing this?

01-02-2019, 03:18 PM	#10
Drstrangelove Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 346	I don't have that issue. On opening day, there are a handful of contracts (9) being offered by the AI. The best remaining FAs are 55/80, 44/80 and 43/80. On average, teams have spending room of ~$30 million per team. In my view, that means that most FA's are still unsigned because they aren't wanted, not because they are exceptional talents holding out for more money or because teams are broke. No contract offer (by teams) and no demand (by players) exceeds $1.6 million. I imagine one can set up a league to generate low demand (low quality players, reduced money supply, etc.) or excessive player supply, such that much better players than those will still be around, unsigned and demanding more money. Last edited by Drstrangelove; 01-02-2019 at 03:50 PM.