Collection Missions General Discussion - Page 33

Drezik · 10-22-2019, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DonkeyKongSr

Hal Newhouser is one of the best LHSP in the game now. Norm Cash is the best OBP hitter vR now. Miggy is a pretty solid hitter. Don't get so hung up on overalls.

That Newhouser card is actually insanely good, I dont know how it isnt a 100.

webdox · 10-22-2019, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DonkeyKongSr

Hal Newhouser is one of the best LHSP in the game now. Norm Cash is the best OBP hitter vR now. Miggy is a pretty solid hitter. Don't get so hung up on overalls.

I am over the moon I started collecting these Tigers cards in June when the prices were cheap. Took me forever but got the entire set AND the bonus... these cards:

100 Cobb
99 Cobb
96 Cobb
99 Kaline
98 Gehringer
97 Newhouser
97 Greenberg
97 Crawford
97 Cash
92 Morris
91 Mize

... were not even needed and are still UNLOCKED and can be sold if needed (or kept for future missions as I can't believe not one of my Cobbs was needed for so much as one mission!)

According to my spreadsheet of what they cost me and what I reckon I could sell the above cards for plus all the new SE Tigers I'm not feeling like anyone should feel too sorry for us saps that got in on the Tiger Train early...

The fact these cards weren't needed lead me to think we haven't seen the last of these Tiger's missions... Up until now they have been seriously underrepresented.

pappyzan · 10-22-2019, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Argonaut

It just depends on the reward cards. I was selling Athletics like hot-cakes last month.

I predict on Thursday there will be a Cardinals collection with PEAK Ozzie. I'm sure that'll get some action.

Ozzie diamond card is in essence his PEAK card; doubtful there's another Ozzie card that will be better than that one.That card is based on his 1987 season where he was 2nd in MVP, no other offensive season of his was all that close to '87 unfortunately.

Dogberry99 · 10-22-2019, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pappyzan

Ozzie diamond card is in essence his PEAK card; doubtful there's another Ozzie card that will be better than that one.That card is based on his 1987 season where he was 2nd in MVP, no other offensive season of his was all that close to '87 unfortunately.

There could be room around the margins for some offensive improvement. For example, he ranked 4th in AB per K with 16.7 in 1987, but it jumped to a career high of 30.3 in 1993 when he had a scant 18 K's in 603 PA's to lead the league. 1987 was clearly his best single year, but he did certain individual things better in other years that could push his Peak card higher.

Dogberry99 · 10-22-2019, 03:48 PM

I may have just bought the first Tim Salmon (All Time and Last 7 Avg's show up as soon as one has been sold, right?). This appears to be a sneaky good card and will be an immediate upgrade for my team at DH. Avoid K is lower than I normally care for, but I felt the price (29,999) was too good to pass up.

Thank you, Sixto Lezcano, for your many, many years of surprisingly high production. You will not be forgotten.

Argonaut · 10-22-2019, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pappyzan

Ozzie diamond card is in essence his PEAK card; doubtful there's another Ozzie card that will be better than that one.That card is based on his 1987 season where he was 2nd in MVP, no other offensive season of his was all that close to '87 unfortunately.

What you say makes sense, although there may be some room to pick up a tiny bit of POW and AvK for Ozzie. I just don't think a PEAK Pujols will be that good, or even if it's good, be desirable for whales. Not sure who else you could do for the Cards, as Bob Gibson has a PEAK card.

In today's mission news, some of my Tigers are selling after lowering the prices a bit. Angels don't seem to be selling.

dkgo · 10-22-2019, 04:12 PM

It would be very disappointing if peak Pujols is not that good. He should be the best righty 1B in the game with fairly good defense

Unfortunately the games rating formula punishes all other cards because Cap Anson only struck out ten times per season back in the 1880s

bailey · 10-22-2019, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

It would be very disappointing if peak Pujols is not that good. He should be the best righty 1B in the game with fairly good defense

Unfortunately the games rating formula punishes all other cards because Cap Anson only struck out ten times per season back in the 1880s

But they just put out Norm Cash who is one of the best 1B against RHP in the game. I'm hoping for an elite OF from some upcoming collection.

pappyzan · 10-22-2019, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Argonaut

there may be some room to pick up a tiny bit of POW and AvK for Ozzie.

Yep, I hope you're right!

Argonaut · 10-22-2019, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

It would be very disappointing if peak Pujols is not that good. He should be the best righty 1B in the game with fairly good defense

Unfortunately the games rating formula punishes all other cards because Cap Anson only struck out ten times per season back in the 1880s

I'm just saying this based on his 2009 card, which is a 89 Gold card in OOTP that isn't anything special. In 2009 Pujols had a monster year but OOTP's formula doesn't seem to like it too much. Maybe if you combine 08/09/10 Pujols you can squeak out a few extra ratings points, Contact from 2008 should be quite good. Otherwise they're pretty similar numbers.

dkgo · 10-22-2019, 04:23 PM

They can fudge the numbers a bit too though. Like John Smoltz seems way more powerful than you would expect.

dkgo · 10-22-2019, 06:57 PM

I somehow sold all the parts I had to "Live Sinkers" for 250 each despite the fact you need 6 of them for just a standard pack and there are 22 iron possibilities to choose from

lol people

a week from now these cards will all be going for 20 points

Westheim · 10-22-2019, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

I somehow sold all the parts I had to "Live Sinkers" for 250 each despite the fact you need 6 of them for just a standard pack and there are 22 iron possibilities to choose from

lol people

a week from now these cards will all be going for 20 points

These kids! I had all those stin- eh, sinkers when they were still Golds!

gemini615 · 10-22-2019, 09:09 PM

I just opened 5 packs and ended up with 3 of the sinker/stinkers. That mission can probably be done without any auction house funny business seeing as I've seen most of those faces in my packs as iron filler for months.

bailey · 10-22-2019, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

I somehow sold all the parts I had to "Live Sinkers" for 250 each despite the fact you need 6 of them for just a standard pack and there are 22 iron possibilities to choose from

I wish I would have thought of that... but I got a live gold in the pack, so I guess I broke even.

Westheim · 10-24-2019, 06:56 AM

Found a 1972 Tug McGraw for 2,400 to complete the Amazin' Mets mission after a scant four months of poking in the dark. The resulting Seaver card is actually up for sale because I already have the (97) Seaver, who currently has an active 12-game winning streak in Diamond. Why touch that?

dkgo · 10-24-2019, 08:21 AM

Does anyone have the Newhouser? Haven't seen one on the AH

Gonna finish the Tigers if he is a 150K+ type pitcher just gotta wait for the diamonds to come down like they always do. Freehan is going to be ridiculous though, who thought it was a good idea to require every card from so many sets especially a 96 that some people actually use.

X3NEIZE · 10-24-2019, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

Does anyone have the Newhouser? Haven't seen one on the AH

Gonna finish the Tigers if he is a 150K+ type pitcher just gotta wait for the diamonds to come down like they always do. Freehan is going to be ridiculous though, who thought it was a good idea to require every card from so many sets especially a 96 that some people actually use.

IMO one of the best LHP, and when I say that I mean probably the best.

he's one of those non-100 that doesn't make sense why he isn't a 100.

Drezik · 10-24-2019, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

Does anyone have the Newhouser? Haven't seen one on the AH

Gonna finish the Tigers if he is a 150K+ type pitcher just gotta wait for the diamonds to come down like they always do. Freehan is going to be ridiculous though, who thought it was a good idea to require every card from so many sets especially a 96 that some people actually use.

I have him on my all Tigers team, I think hes well above a 150k pitcher. My personal opinion is he should be on the same level as the Pedro, Maddux, etc..

According to my own (very, very, very) elementary spreadsheet, he's the #4 overall pitcher in the game. I do favor "stuff" and "movement" as well as individual pitches pretty highly though.

Here's his stats so far in a pretty tough perfect league:

dkgo · 10-24-2019, 09:16 AM

OK that is nice, looks very similar to SE rube waddell. Would put him around 300K, definitely a mission set worth doing.

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10-22-2019, 04:12 PM	#647
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	It would be very disappointing if peak Pujols is not that good. He should be the best righty 1B in the game with fairly good defense Unfortunately the games rating formula punishes all other cards because Cap Anson only struck out ten times per season back in the 1880s

10-22-2019, 04:23 PM	#651
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	They can fudge the numbers a bit too though. Like John Smoltz seems way more powerful than you would expect.

10-22-2019, 06:57 PM	#652
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	I somehow sold all the parts I had to "Live Sinkers" for 250 each despite the fact you need 6 of them for just a standard pack and there are 22 iron possibilities to choose from lol people a week from now these cards will all be going for 20 points

10-24-2019, 08:21 AM	#657
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	Does anyone have the Newhouser? Haven't seen one on the AH Gonna finish the Tigers if he is a 150K+ type pitcher just gotta wait for the diamonds to come down like they always do. Freehan is going to be ridiculous though, who thought it was a good idea to require every card from so many sets especially a 96 that some people actually use.

10-24-2019, 09:16 AM	#660
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	OK that is nice, looks very similar to SE rube waddell. Would put him around 300K, definitely a mission set worth doing.