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Old 02-19-2004, 11:58 PM   #281
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Can't remember, who beat Zech and who drew with him? Doesn't he want rematches to even the score, or has he already?
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Old 02-20-2004, 10:21 AM   #282
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He had the majority draw with Terrell and I'd considered a refight with him as part of this lead in to Ali. If Zech manages to at least get a fight with Ali, It may be interesting to set something up some time.

His loss was to Ulli Ritter. Ritter's career ended with his last fight in February of 65, so I see no rematch there.

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Old 02-20-2004, 11:15 AM   #283
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Gerhard Zech vs Yvan Prebeg

June 14, 1966 Frankfurt, Germany

15 Rounds for the European Heavyweight Championship

The Challenger.....
Yvan Prebeg from Zagreb, Croatia(Hrvatska) Record 13-9-3

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The Defending Champion....

Gerhard Zech from Berlin, Germany Record 37-1-1


Round 1

Early action finds Zech raking Prebeg's body with hooks with most of Prebeg's jabs missing the mark until he lands a hard uppercut! Prebeg retreats into a neutral corner with Zech missing with his punches. Both fighters are staying cautious. Prebeg ties up Zech. Gerhard then lands a jolting uppercut. There's a pause in the action. Zech wanted to start fast but so far hasn't found his rythem.

He wins a slight edge in the round though.
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Old 02-20-2004, 11:21 AM   #284
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ZECH vs PREBEG EURO CHAMPIONSHIP

ROUND 2

Zech looking a bit disgusted as round 2 gets underway closes the distance and delivers a wake-up call!! He hurt Prebeg with a sharp combination. Zech then fires a punch over the jab of Prebeg and gets in in for points. They're circling one another.....

Prebeg has Zech trapped in the far left neutral corner....the action slows for a moment.......

The two fighters lean into one another tangling each other up. Suddenly Zech has a free hand and lands a little uppercut. Prebeg fires a lead right that Zech avoids when zech then lands a tremendous left! Zech then rips off a right-left combination to the head. Prebeg's telegraphing his punches making it pretty easy for Zech to avoid them.

Zech lands right hand that ends the round.
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Old 02-20-2004, 11:30 AM   #285
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ZEHC vs PREBEG EURO CHAMPIONSHIP

ROUND 3

Prebeg lands a strong hook to open up the 3rd. It hurts Zech as he stumbles backward! Prebeg's right eye has swollen by now from the shots he's taken to the head by Zech. Prebeg then scores with a nice right. Both fighters sneak a breather as they clinch.

Zech fires a short uppercut and then a short hook into Prebeg's midsections. Zech scores with a jab then lands another stinging jab that doubles Prebeg up. Prebeg rips a hook to the body and then a left hand high on Zech's shoulder. A right cross gets through Prebeg's guard.....

Zech smothers Prebeg's attack as Prebeg tries to get some shots off inside. Zech then lands a devastating cross stopping Prebeg cold! Both boxers are in the middle of the ring now. Prebeg can't find the range with his punches.

End of round 3. It's a close fight...much closer then then defending champ wants it to be.
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Old 02-20-2004, 11:38 AM   #286
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ZECH vs PREBEG EURO CHAMPIONSHIP

ROUND 4

The bell sounds, Zech wraps up Prebeg. They separate themselves. The referee then calls a halt here in round 4. He takes Prebeg back to his doctor to take a look at Prebeg's eye....We're waiting for a call......it's over!! This fight is history!! Prebegs eye is too bad to allow the fight to go on.

It's a TKO victory at the 0:26 mark in round 4 for defending European HW Champion Gerhard Zech!!

I don't mind seeing Zech win but I think this fight got stopped too soon! The judges scores for the first 3 rounds were 29-28 Prebeg with judge 1 and 29-28 Zech with judges 2 and 3.

Zech landed the punches that did the most damage though on that eye of Prebeg's.

Oh well....BRING ON ALI!!!!
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O.k, the Ali fight wouldn't have home town scoring because of the champs charisma it would be neutral. Zech must stay awkward. Ali's control rating should go down 1 because of Zech's southpaw stance and Ali's trouble with it. Your call on that though.
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Old 02-20-2004, 01:31 PM   #288
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I believe your exactly correct Heavyweight on lack of any hometown advantage for Zech. I don't honestly expect Zech to be able to do much against Ali. If he can take him 8 plus rounds at least I'll be happy to see that.

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Old 02-20-2004, 08:57 PM   #289
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Norton Project

Hi Guys,

Wow who'd have thought that Zech would be fighting for a world title. I don't reckon he'll last much more than 6 rounds against Ali though.

Anyway onto Ken Norton, at the end of 1968 Norton had a record of 6-0-0 (5). He'd fought fighters almost exclusively from the local ranks and he'd yet fight outside of California. Well he wouldn't break the streak till 1970 versus Bob Mashburn.

For Norton's seventh fight Chicago native Joe Hemphill had moved west after retiring in 1960 after putting a nice journeyman career together. In 1968 he dicided make a comback but it was very unsuccessful loosing his last three fights with the final fight coming against Norton, a third round KO.

Norton's Seventh Opponent

Joe Hemphill

Record: 17-5-1 (3)

Joe was a polished performer from Chicago who racked up an impressive 17-2-0 (3) record till mid 1960. His two losses were a first round KO to a young Terrell and an 8 round points loss to Terrell a couple of years later. It would take him eight years to return to the ring, but return he did for 4 more bouts. He started with an unimpresive draw with the equally unimpressive Marty Franklin, He then lost to Tony Doyle on points in 10 and at the end of 1968 he lost to Mac Foster via a third round KO. He would climb into the ring for the last time against Ken Norton who defeats him via a Knockout in the third round.

The comeback obscures what was a reasonable career in the late fifties, where he managed to beat fighters such as Toxie Hall, Henry Hall, Joe Bygraves and Dave Bailey (all rated in the game). That he was not able defeat Ernie Terrell proves that while an effective fighter he was of a regional champion level at his peak.

Hemphill's Record:
1969-02-11 Ken Norton 6-0-0 L KO 3 0
1968-11-28 Mac Foster 15-0-0 L KO 3 0
1968-08-08 Tony Doyle 20-5-1 L PTS 10 0
1968-04-27 Marty Franklin 9-9-1 D PTS 6 0
1960-07-20 Ernie Terrell 18-2-0 L PTS 8 0
1960-05-18 Joe Bygraves 38-15-1 W PTS 8 8
1960-03-21 Dave Bailey 11-6-2 W PTS 8 8
1960-02-03 Henry Hall 51-23-6 W PTS 6 0
1959-11-16 Calvin Butler 12-13-0 W KO 8 0
1959-09-30 Willie Coleman 7-3-0 W PTS 6 0
1959-08-05 Johnny Gray 16-8-1 W PTS 10 0
1959-05-18 Toxie Hall 13-14-4 W KO 7 0
1959-03-30 Chuck Garrett 0-4-0 W PTS 8 0
1958-09-24 Ernie Terrell 9-1-0 L KO 1 0
1958-09-10 Dave Shoulders 3-0-1 W KO 5 0
1958-08-20 Lou Bailey 4-8-2 W PTS 6 6
1958-06-21 Ossie Groom 7-1-1 W PTS 6 0
1958-06-06 Leroy Malcolm 1-1-0 W PTS 4 0
1958-04-30 Lou Bailey 4-7-2 W PTS 4 4
1958-03-12 Al Lane 6-4-0 W PTS 6 0
1958-01-14 Art Norris 0-1-0 W PTS 5 0
1957-12-04 James Beard 2-0-0 W PTS 4 0
1957-10-02 Art Norris 0-0-0 W PTS 4 0

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Joe Hemphill
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First Name Joe
Last Name Hemphill
Nickname
Group Men
Sex Male
Era Retired
Division HW - Heavyweight
Southpaw No
Nationality United States
Career Stage Prime
Career Start 1957
Career End 1969
Trainer Generic Offense
Cut Man Generic Cut Man



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Control vs Boxer 6
Control vs Slugger 6
Hitting Power 2
Chin vs Knockdown 2
Chin vs Knockout 2
Recovery 2
Resistance to Cuts 2
Absorb Punishment 2
Killer Instinct 4
Aggressiveness 5
Endurance 8
Defense 0
Fast Starter 2
Fight on Ropes 2

Draw Power 1
Conditioning 2
Intellect 5
Proficiency 10
Fight Inside 2
Fight Outside 2
Cover Up 2
Go for Knockout 1
Clinching 59
Ring Movement 0
Style Boxer
Fouls Seldom
Punches % 2 Pt. 3 Pt.
Jabs 22.25 1.50
Hooks 16.25 0.50
Crosses 19.25 0.75
Combinations 20.50 0.75
Uppercuts 17.75 0.50

Punching 36
Counterpunching 34
Punches Missed 64
Overall Rating 4



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boxrec.com ID 015778


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Old 02-21-2004, 02:36 PM   #290
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A South African HW

Here's a guy that I actually rated when I was messing around with TF2001 and forgot about him until I was messing around here today with some things. He held the South African HW Title for a period of time in the 1960's. By his record he would appeared to have had a decent punch, but his own chin must have been rather glassy. Also, it looked like he would resort to less then clean cut tactics in the ring.

These ratings are not play tested extensively, but, looking at them and knowing a little more about things with the resent guys I've rated for TBCB they look like they'd be in a decent range for him.

Gerry De Bruyn 1 Overall Rating
boxingRec. 028229
Record: 15-14-2, 13KO

Lost to Mike Holt(54-19-4) for the South African LHW Title in 1963. Defeated by 7th round KO, Billy Lotter(29-7-0) for the South African Heavyweight Title on May 2nd, 1966. Defended that title successfully on May 30th 1966 against Ewald De Waal(3-6-1), then against Gert Van Heerden(46-6-0) Dec. 1966, Tom Miller(2-7-1) Feb. 1967 and again in July 1967 before being loosing a 10 round decision for the title against Jan Pieterse(12-3-0) in July 1968. During that title reign, he also lost a 10 round decision to Eduardo Corletti in 1967 and a 1st round KO to Buster Mathis in Dec. 1967.

De Bruyn, after loosing the South African Heavyweight Title to Jan Pieterse also lost by 7th round disqualification to Pieterse in March 1969 with the two battling for the South African LHW Title. De Bruyn then lsot to a Japie Pretorius(6-15-0) by 4th round KO in June 1969 for the South African HW Title. DeBruyn's last two career fights were KO's to Jimmy Richards(27-11-4).

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HW- Victorio Campolo

Did some research on Argentina HW- Vittorio Campolo (1925-1934) whom I could find no number for at boxrec. as I was entering some bios. Turn's out that his real first name is Victorio. His boxrec I.D. # is 012079. (Not to be confused with his brother, - Valentin Campolo. boxrec #21040.) (I'll have to look up his brother and rate him now..lol)
Anyway, not only a pretty good fighter, but an interesting history. I changed his nationality to Italy as I discovered that was his birthplace, however could go either way on that I guess.
Name: Victorio Campolo
Nationality: Italy/ Argentina (?)
Alias: El Gigante de Quilmes/Vittorio
Hometown: Quilmes, Argentina
Birthplace: Reggio, Calabria, Italy
Stance: Orthodox, with a 82" reach.
Height: 6'6"
Manager: Gustavo Leneve (Leneve, a French Jew, was a mechanic in a Buenos Aires machine shop before becoming Campolo's manager.) He was also managed by Luis Gutierrez & Jess McMahon during his career.
Record: 21-7-1 (18 KO's)
Comments: He was generally known as Victorio. He was a butcher in his Fathers meat shop in Argentina before becoming a professional boxer. Victorio did fight as an Amateur in the 1925 Pan-Am Games. The year 1930 Victorio Campolo is proclaimed Argentine Champion. He vacated this title on June, 11, 1932. Retired in 1934 after the Primo Carnera bout.
Highlights: 1925-09-07 vs Miguel Ferrara(3-0-0) in Buenos Aires. 5th rd KO win. Ferrara reportedly knocked down "36" times.
1929-09-23 vs Phil Scott(60-10-4) at Ebbetts Field, Brooklyn, N.Y. The blond British giant had hardly had time to make a few gestures last night when he was in full retreat, doubled-up and badly punished by a crushing succession of short pile driving rights to the body. The shaggy-haired, towering Argentine was on his foe like a tiger, delivering body blows that made shuffling Phil Scott wince and become a distinct shade paler....,Scott's margin was so close that it took a 2 to 1 decision to give him the victory. He received the vote of the two judges but referee Arthur Donovan cast his ballot for Campolo. (Associated Press)
1930-02-27 vs Johnny Risko(38-23-6) at Miami, Florida, USA a 10 round draw with Risko.
1930-03-24 vs Johhny Risko(38-23-7) in a rematch at Madison Square Garden, New York, N.Y. Campolo lost in a SD. An unpopular decision, as 11,000 people booed the verdict. Referee Arthur Donovan voted for Risko, after judges Charles F. Mathison (for Campolo) & George Patrick (Risko) split.
1931-11-27 vs Primo Carnera(49-4-0) at Madison Square Garden, New York, N.Y. Campolo lost by 2nd round KO. The card was a benefit for Jewish charities.
1934-12-01 vs Primo Carnera(77-7-0) at Independiente Football Stadium, Buenos Aires, Argentina. Carnera, making his first appearance in Buenos Aires, had little trouble earing the decision in 12 rounds. Campolo put up a better fight than expected. (New York Times) This was Victorio's last fight.
Control B/S: 8/8
HP: 10
CKD: 3
CKO: 2
REC: 3
AP: 3
KI: 8
AGG: 9
END: 8
DEF: 4
FS: 1
OR: 2
DP: 4
CON: 2
INT: 4
PRO: 10
FI: 2
FO: 2
CU: 1
KO: 2
CLIN: 69
STYLE: Either
FOUL: Frequently
J: 13.00/4.50
H: 15.75/5.50
CR: 25.25/5.75
CB: 7.75/4.50
UC: 12.00/6.00
P: 36
CP: 36
PM: 63
RATE: 7
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Nice writeup on Campolo. Enjoyable reading!

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Setting the stage for Ali vs Zech

Well, while The Champ and his German upstart opponent to come are getting ready for thier big fight, I'm trying to get a feel for the "mood" of the time. Been doing some surfing on the web about the venue where Ali and Mildenberger fought and was surprised to find a lot of references to Mildenberger on the web!

So I continued to search up on Mildenberger. I'm surprised to see what quite a celebrity he was back then in Germany when he was the European Champion and he continues to be today it would appear. Hmmmm...Mildenberger just might be another interesting replay subject to do along side Folley....

I've tried to do some searching on our man Zech, but not finding much of anything yet. Mildenberger though....found some interesting things.

Here's the web links to some of the more interesting finds on Mildenberger I've run across. Some photo's of him past and present and a little bit about the venue the Ali/Mildenberger fight was staged at. I've seen a couple different references to the venue. 1. Frankfurt's Waldstadion and 2. Frankfort's Forest Stadiums.

Anyway thought you might like to check these out. Going to do a little more search for Gerhard, but, yes the Championship fight I hope to stage here soon...

The first paragraph here is taken from an article done by Cliff Endicott on Cyber Boxing Zone on a review he did of Stephen Brunt's book, Facing Ali.

Far more interesting is the chapter that describes the life of Karl Mildenberger. A national hero in Germany of only slightly less regard than Max Schmelling, Mildenberger's story is very well told. His development as a fighter to the point of his match with Ali for the title in 1966 is described in a brief but informative story, but the Ali fight itself was the main event of the chapter. I had no idea that this made Mildenberger a legend in Germany, and that Germans consider this particular fight one of the most exciting and important fights in heavyweight history. Mildenberger plays on this in his everyday life, making him a constant presence in the media as a major celebrity.

http://translate.google.com/translat...UTF-8%26sa%3DN

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/boxing-news/dunn0808.php

http://translate.google.com/translat...UTF-8%26sa%3DN

http://translate.google.com/translat...UTF-8%26sa%3DN

http://translate.google.com/translat...UTF-8%26sa%3DN

http://translate.google.com/translat...UTF-8%26sa%3DN

http://www.boxing911.com/jack.htm Interesting little article on Jack O’Halloran

http://translate.google.com/translat...UTF-8%26sa%3DN


http://www.antekprizering.com/mildenbergersp.html

http://www.antekprizering.com/alimil...oster1103.html
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Here's a little gem I recently found of Zech.

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Another great photo Cube!

I was wondering. Do know or does anyone here know if there's anything mentioned in say the Ring Magazines or Boxing Illustrated magazines of 1965-66 that might have some articles about the Zech/Mildenberger fight and the Mildenberger/Ali fight. I would assume the Mildenberger/Ali fight there would be. Curious to know if anyone has copies of any of those magazines that they might look to see it there's any mention of our man Zech.

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Here is what Charley Parish wrote about the Mildenberger-Zech fight in the March 66 issue of The Ring.

"At Frankfurt, the bout between Mildenberger and Zech, with the former's European title at stake, was monotonous and uneventful as experts had predicted. The Luxembourg referee issued several warnings but the team-mates knew each other's style from A to Z and every move was cancelled before it could begin. The bout ended with a win for Mildenberger and the boxers left the ring to a storm of boos from the 8,000 spectators."
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From Jack Tree's report in The Ring (May 66). "Mildenberger outpointed Machen before more than 12,000 fans. The sensation of the evening came in the interval to round seven, when the Bundes Deutscher Berufsboxer official, Gerhard Seewald, the appointed third man, had caught up with Machen's elbow when trying to part the the boxers and fell backwards landing on his back. Helmut Bertram then took over the duties of third man on the grounds that Seewald was not fit enough to continue after his fall. Whatever the cause of this switch, Werner's decision saved the fight and the promotion. The crowd was not very pleased with Seewald's officiating up to this point. They had been calling for more action but whenever Machen went in close and proved superior at infighting, Seewald would pull him off. Machen, 33, was facing his first southpaw in 57 fights, and it curtaintly worried him. there were times when he did not know what to do. it also was his first fight since July 1965. Mildenberger, 28, was not prepared to take any chances. He couldn't afford to after his disapointing bouts with Dave Bailey and stable companion Gerhard Zech. He was content to coast along for a points win."

Mildenberger scored a knockdown according to the accompanying photo, but it is not mentioned in the fight coverage.
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Great stuff Jofre!!

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A 50s Heavyweight

Frank Cowen, who I had the pleasure of working with in the early and mid 80s at Griffis AFB, faught as a Heavy from 1952-1954 and compiled a record of 13-3 12 KOs. In his final two fights, he lost via KO to Ernie Cabb who forced him to backup which is something he didn't do well. When Frank was in the army during WW2, he parachuted into a freeway in Germany and got him by a truck which did some damage to his hips. He had amature wins over: Hurrican Tommy Jackson and Rex Lyane and sparred with Ezzard Charles.

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Jessie Boston

Jessie Boston was a cruiserweight that I saw workout in Goss and Goss Gym back around 1990-91, just after he did a stink at Trenton State for something he didn't want to talk about. He was built like Mike Tyson, but didn't really punch hard, but was hardcharging and would take you if you weren't in shape. His carrer came to an end in 1993, I wonder if he is back in jail?

L4 Yuri Vaulin, L4 Alexander Zolkin, W4 Tim Igo, TKO2 Joseph Chinqangu

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