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07-05-2011, 11:53 AM | #1 |
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Can the world_default file be edited?
I tried making edits in the world_default.xml file -- in fact, I spent what seemed like the better part of the July 4 weekend trying to make changes in the .xml file and the in-game nation editor, all with no success. Others, however, say that changes in the .xml file can be made, and that changes in the nation editor can be saved. Don't tell me that such changes can theoretically be made. I don't want to know if you should be able to make those changes, I want to know if you can make those changes. I'd like to hear from people who have actually tried to change the .xml file or the settings in the nation editor if they have been successful or not, and, if they have, how did they do it.
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I've always liked OOTP simply because you can come on here ask a question and it will be answered, sometimes you even get the people behind the game answering your questions. I have to say though this time I find it very disappointing that in what is a big change in fact a massive change for fictional players, a change from OOTP11 and txt files to OOTP12 and xml files hasn't been talked about apart from Muzamba's posts.
Despite numerous posts and questions from numerous people from the boards questions still go unanswered, I'd even have expected Markus who I take was the one who decided to change from txt to xml would have at least come in with a couple of questions. Maybe next time I'll buy iOOTP or give a donation to the paypal account it seems these get alot of time devoted to them Being serious though I hope you get your question answered because until I get questions like this answered then I'm afraid I'll be sticking with 11, as I don't trust 12 with what I want to change within the files. |
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I completely agree.
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For what it's worth, I made edits to the world_default file to add my fictional country and associated cities and ethnicities by following Muzamba's tutorial and got it to work. I made the edits directly in notepad.
However, it sounds as though you would like to edit existing information; if so, then I couldn't comment on that. Hopefully, someone else can.
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I'd like to see that too.
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Here's some screen grabs. I admittedly don't have alot of cities and I've kept the populations simple. I made sure that my city populations agreed with the state and nation populations.
I added my info after the Falkland Islands & started at ID numbers well above those already used.
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I have seen reference, I believe, in another thread to changes in the .xml not sticking, that it reverts back to the original. Also, I have seen recommendations to use Notepad++ for the editing (freeware), have you tried this?
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Thanks, these are very helpful.
Are the ethnicity IDs referencing fictional ethnicities?
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Reds1 what was the many lines for ethnicity for? thought in 11 there were only 4 options?
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I was able to verify that the upper id# of 39 is probably hard coded. I tried adding ethnicity 40 to the XML file but OOTP wouldn't recognize it when I looked at the nation editor.
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I was going to mention that I was disappointed that a British ethnicity was not included this time around, but I just noticed that it's listed as #20. D'oh! That's OK - I've only set up a test league thus far and I'm still tweaking things.
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I think the overall problem is that despite the decision being made to implement the new system as early as last fall, it really didn't get much attention until late in the beta process. Andreas, to his credit, pushed for and was given the green light to code the new db, but I kind of get the impression Markus was never totally convinced that any sort of update to the system was really even necessary. I personally consider myself to be the biggest non-development team advocate for a comprehensive redesign of the db (although I didn't specifically push for the conversion to xml). The problem is that most users don't seem to care that much or at least don't publicly express their desire that the db be updated, so Markus doesn't seem to see it as a major area of concern. However, the purpose of this rant isn't to say anything disparaging about Markus. I just want to encourage those for whom it IS a priority to be vocal about it and let your feelings be known. I have a very comprehensive proposal on the table to revamp the entire OOTP db for v13 that will make the game's output much more realistic and should allow for more editing options by the user, but it's probably going to require strong support from the OOTP community to get Markus' attention. So if you want to see all the issues that have been discussed in this thread addressed soon, please take every opportunity you can to mention how important this is to you.
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Those "ethnicities" are the languages used in creating names. Thus the "lid" (landgauge ID). They are poorly named as ethnicities. And there are 40 languages.
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Has there been any official comment on the issue of US ethnicities being hard-coded?
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