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There doesn't seem to be any point to the change to the XMLfile at all.
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It makes sense as long as it's editable, because it allows slightly more flexibility compared to a series of text files. Of course that is massively undermined if a lot of it is hard coded anyway.
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True...there is the "potential" for more flexibility. However, if I already have a very heavily modified cities.txt file (that I have spent years modifying to my liking), and the only way of using that data in OOTP12 is inputting over 140 thousand lines of data into the XML file (and not, from reading these forums, being sure even that would work) then the change to the XML format is not a good thing (for me).
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I am sure i will buy 12 at some point, my online league will use it after our current season and I have a historical league which I am dying to try the reserve clause rules on. and i have 4 other leagues which are on hold until I get to 2041 in my Endor League. |
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Are you sure that you edited it correctly? I just tried adding all of the landuage id's to Algeria and made the U.S. just one. I did not get a crash and when I went to the nation game editor, my percents were what I had edited them to. If you can post what your edits, maybe we can see what is going on.
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I decided to try something new today: I made just one edit in the .xml file -- I corrected the spelling of "Scandinavian" in the language id list. I then started a new game and checked Norway, which, as far as I know, is the only country that has "Scandinavian" as a language. Not surprisingly, the change didn't "take" -- it was still "Scandinavien." So, if I make a lot of changes, it crashes the game or I get an unfixable error or the changes don't stick, and if I make one change it doesn't stick. That has been my experience so far. Those files are long gone. |
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I'm guessing that when languages were originally added they were hard coded. Markus may have added them to the world default.xml, but hasn't changed the hard coding in the game yet.
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Well, this is weird.
I went into the .xml file using Notepad to add another ethnicity to Algeria. I then started a new game and, in the nation editor, the change showed up! I quit OOTP and opened up the .xml file again, but this time in WordPad (which is what I have been using) rather than Notepad. Then I added another ethnicity to Angola and started a new game. This time I got an "XML parsing error" message. The problem, then, may be that the .xml file doesn't like WordPad. This bears closer scrutiny. |
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p.s. Notepad++ makes it easier to edit, but the find function is very slow on my computer. If I am making a quick change, Notepad can find the nation, state, city I am looking for much quicker.
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Wolf was saying that using Notepad/notepad++ messes up something or was unadvisible? to instead use a XML editor. Can you share your comments on that? I am going to wait til i get past my 2009 Endor season before i start seeing if i can transfer my league over to 12 with the added changes i want to make to my orig file.
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I haven't seen the post from Wolf about notepad/notepad++ doing something with the xml. Do you know what the issue was? What xml editor are you using? I downloaded XML Notepad Plus the other day because it could compare 2 xml files. It was very clunky. So far Notepad++ is my preferred method to work with the xml files as it simple and straight forward and give you the ability to collapse sections of the xml on the screen. But if it causes problems, I won't use it.
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Check out TextPad (TextPad - the text editor for Windows). I have used it over Notepad, etc for awhile now. It's so much better and the find and replace feature is great.
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Just downloaded Notepad++. The search tool is slow. Froze up for a bit. The collapse feature is cool. I mass deleted some continents and it froze up doing that too.
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I take it you did not have those problems with Textpad?
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Correct.
Although TextPad doesn't have the collapse feature. And Notepad++ looks more like an XML editor and TextPad looks more like a TXT editor.
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I believe he was talking more with possible crashes of notepad or notepad++ but not sure right now. I deleted the XML editor I orig had (which i didnt try) and switched to notepad++, also which I havent used other then just to open the xml. Right now my new concern isnt how long it may take to put my nations in. It's whether or not they would be a part of my game once I convert it to 12. So i need tons of questions answered. I want to buy 12, but unsure right now if i will bother since my Endor League is the only league i play on 11 these days. I do have 5 other leagues and an online league that will be fun to play on 12, but I can get by with playing them on 11. |
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Second of all, isn't there a demo of 12 that you could try all this in, before making the decision?
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There is not a demo yet as far as I'm aware. At least I haven't found one yet.
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