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I noticed they didn't show the last eagles 4th down play for some reason in the eagles Seahawks game
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If the NFL kept all the OT rules the same and forced the offense to start at the 10 instead of a kick-off then it favors the defense. Even now going second in college OT is just as big of an advantage from winning the toss. |
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I had a hard time with OPI in the Vikings win. I didnt care who won so I have no bias. They were both getting handsy. There might have been extension of the arm by Rudolph, but it didnt seem to me he really got power into it. Maybe a bit of leverage, but that's it.
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It's hard to do OT in the NFL without getting into gimmicks. They could play another quarter, but what if that ends up in a tie? |
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Granted but shouldn't the other defense show proof of there skill of stopping a team scoring, I can't think of any sport were if it goes into an extra part of a game were both teams/players dont have the same chance of winning. Golf, football (soccer), hockey, basketball, baseball none are dependant on the toss of a coin.
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Since the rule change for OT in the NFL, is there a stat somewhere that shows how many times the winner of the coin toss won in OT? |
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And another thing about something said earlier.....I hate the "well they could have stopped them" argument. If we did the same in baseball, would we think, "well the pitcher didn't have to give up a run in the top of the inning"? Why is that OK in football? All other sports give the other team an equal chance to score.
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2) Of those sports though, baseball is the only one that has a structured flip between offense and defense and that's out of necessity based on the structure of the game. There is no requirement in football that both teams must have the ball other than at the beginning and middle of the game. A team could use up an entire half trying to score if it wanted to and that would be completely fair. In the others, offense and defense are intermingled. One of the best ways to win in those situations is to prevent the other team from being on offense as much as it wants. Same idea with the defensive team in football. Don't want to lose? Shut down the other team's offense and get possession of the ball.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...le-is-tweaked/ "In the NFL, 52.7 percent of teams winning the overtime coin toss (and receiving) win the game at some point in overtime, according to Ross Tucker of SiriusXM NFL Radio. In college football, the team that wins the coin toss (and defers) wins 54.9 percent of the time." 52.7 percent seems pretty damn close to fair. People actually think college football is more fair because "both teams get a chance" which just shows people are idiots and their feelings are a terrible judge of reality. |
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The best idea even though it wouldn't happen is to let the teams bid on starting field position and whoever is willing to take the ball closest to their goalline gets to be on offense.
Would you be willing to start overtime on your own 1 with the current rules to win? Probably some stupid people would. The breaking point is probably around the 10 to 15 I would expect |
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And I'm not seeking to eliminate any advantage. Just lessening the huge advantage of winning a coin toss that could potentially prevent a team from having the ball. I'm not demanding perfection. I just want fairness and a "purer" way of deciding a winner.
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NHL playoff overtimes are also sudden death
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And each team has a chance to handle the puck. Even if a team scored off the face off, the loser still had a chance to win the puck when it was dropped.
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That's true. I forgot about that.
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So the ideal solution for you would seem to be putting the ball at midfield and have a scrum to see which team secures the ball and they begin OT
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I would be, yes. 1) Because there's a jump ball so both teams have a chance to score first. 2) Because getting the ball first doesn't guarantee a win. The physical structure of the playing area and the ease at which teams score in basketball would make this a silly way to do it though. It's easy to score points in basketball. It's not easy in football.
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