Full Sim 1871-2009 - Page 3

Chicagofan76 · 01-02-2011, 02:08 AM

Frank Thomas
Ernie Banks
Ron Santo

Thankx

Garlon · 01-02-2011, 01:30 PM

Frank Thomas
BA/OBP/SLG/OPS
Real: .301/.419/.555/.974
Sim: .299/.431/.559/.990

Ernie Banks
BA/OBP/SLG/OPS
Real: .274/.330/.500/.830
Sim: .274/.323/.489/.812

Ron Santo
BA/OBP/SLG/OPS
Real: .277/.362/.464/.826
Sim: .273/.353/.444/.797

Real vs Sim
AB: 8143 vs 8656
H: 2254 vs 2365
2B: 365 vs 372
3B: 67 vs 44
HR: 342 vs 339
BB: 1108 vs 1063
K: 1343 vs 1373

dynaboyj · 01-02-2011, 08:25 PM

Did the Cubs ever win any World Series after 1908?

Chicagofan76 · 01-02-2011, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynaboyj

Did the Cubs ever win any World Series after 1908?

Great question.
Please say no, but who r some of the most winning world series teams.

Garlon · 01-02-2011, 11:45 PM

From 1871-1881 when ther were 8 teams in the league, there was only 1 round of the playoffs - the World Series

From 1882-1900, 16 teams, 2 divisions each league, 2 rounds of playoffs - LCS and WS.

From 1901-1960, 20 teams, 2 divisions each league, LCS and WS.

From 1961-1968, 24 teams, 3 divisions each league (Wild Card), Division Searies, LCS, WS.

From 1969-2009, 32 teams, 4 divisions each league, DS, LCS, WS.

The A's made the playoffs 43 times and were one of the original 8 teams from 1871.

The Twins won the World Series 10 times, and they started in 1882.

The Cubs won the WS 4 times - 1878, 1879, 1915, 1977.

The Brewers, Rockies, and Rays never won the WS. They all entered the league in 1969 and combined for 30 playoff appearances.

Scoman · 01-02-2011, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garlon

From the Load Screen select:
Game Preferences>Troubleshooting tab>"open folder containing file 'app.cfg' button

Right Click on the file called "engine" and select "Open with" then choose to open it with Notepad.

When you open the file with notepad you can edit some of the game engine values. Be careful when editing this file. Just replace the default values with ones you'd prefer. Then save the file when done. I suggest restarting OOTP after making any changes to make sure they take effect.

Thank you. Would you advise using these config settings in fictional leagues as well,or stay with the default settings for fictional.

Chicagofan76 · 01-02-2011, 11:56 PM

How many WS wins do the White Sox have? Please tell me atleast 1 more then the Cubs.

68pirate · 01-03-2011, 09:31 AM

I find this dicussion fascinating. A couple of questions. First, in my config file, I don't see any entries regarding SP stamina. Secondly, why did you choose the league expansion parameters you did, such as expanding to 32 teams in 1969?

Garlon · 01-03-2011, 05:49 PM

Chicagofan76 - The White Sox won the World Series 8 times in the sim. 1927, 1930, 1948, 1949, 1961, 1973, 1988, 2004.

68pirate - The entries regarding pitcher stamina calculation are the very last two in the file. This is a new entry for OOTP11 and was included in a patch update. So if you're using OOTP10 or not using the most up to date version of OOTP11 then you won't ee it.

I used more teams than IRL because I disabled injuries. With more talent always available in the league I was able to put more teams out on the field. Also, this helps to prevent great players ending up behind other great players in the depth chart and not ending up with a starting job. Also, due to the fact that OOTP's AI will play the best players (since hindsight is 20/20), if I played with the historical number of teams in each time period, the superstars would not rack up the totals they should since they'd be pulled closer to the league average.

Chicagofan76 · 01-03-2011, 11:32 PM

Those r some weird years for the Sox to win the Series. Most of the late 40's teams had little pitching, and i find it odd that none of the mid to late 50's teams made it.......did the 8 men out still get kicked out of baseball in your league, my guess would be no.

Garlon · 01-04-2011, 07:16 AM

Chicagofan76 - I used the rookie draft. Players did not play for the same teams they did IRL. Even if I used the setting to import players to their real life teams, with all the player movement in MLB history the league still would have turned out vastly different. In my sim, players retired acording to history, so their final season in MLB IRL is their last season in OOTP - so the 8 men out did not play more seasons than they did IRL.

Kobeck · 01-04-2011, 11:25 PM

you inspired me to do something similar. I did not attempt many changes and just used the OOTP 1871 startup

Just curious about the size of your save folder.

from 1871 to 1Jan2011 the save file wound up being 58.4 GB, 3432k files & 1218 folders - NO LOGS were saved. Took about 30 hours too run with full minors from day 1.

Niekro retired in 77 in my league and did not even reach 200 wins - Should have had an extra decade of heaving knuckleballs

Garlon · 01-05-2011, 03:19 AM

450 meg for the entire league. I turned off saving some features, I did not use any minor leagues since they are really unnecessary in a historical sim, and I set Statistics Detail to Low.

Kobeck · 01-05-2011, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garlon

68pirate - The entries regarding pitcher stamina calculation are the very last two in the file. This is a new entry for OOTP11 and was included in a patch update. So if you're using OOTP10 or not using the most up to date version of OOTP11 then you won't ee it.

I'm showing version 11.2.28 but I do not see the two settings 68pirate mentions. This is the current version.

engine file is dated 4/12/2010

looks like, for whatever reason, my updated version of the game does not have most current engine file.

odd???

Thanks again for explaining the rational behind the settings you choose. Its a big help

RchW · 01-05-2011, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garlon

68pirate - The entries regarding pitcher stamina calculation are the very last two in the file. This is a new entry for OOTP11 and was included in a patch update. So if you're using OOTP10 or not using the most up to date version of OOTP11 then you won't ee it.

I wasn't aware of these additional entries. Do you know for sure that these settings only affect historical leagues? Recently my fictional leagues have shown a significant reduction in pitcher stamina that could be attributed to these settings.

Do you know what the acronyms IPGS and CGP mean? Innings per game started? Complete game percentage?

Quote:

HISTORICAL_SP_STAMINA_CALCULATION_IPGS_WEIGHT
100
HISTORICAL_SP_STAMINA_CALCULATION_CGP_WEIGHT
50

Apologies for going OT.

68pirate · 01-05-2011, 05:50 PM

I can confirm that I have upgraded to 11.2.28 and my config file still doesn't contain stamina entries. I have done this on two separate computers.

kev24fan · 01-08-2011, 10:21 PM

Garlon: You said the A's made the playoffs 43 times. How many World Series did they win? I would hate to make the playoffs 43 times and never win the World Series.

SpaceMonkey13 · 01-09-2011, 12:47 AM

Seems like everyone's stats were very accurate. Anyone fall off the table or become a surprise star?

Is this setting the reason for the accuracy?

Talent Change Randomness: 1

Garlon · 01-15-2011, 10:04 AM

68pirate -

Just add these two lines to the botton of the config file:
HISTORICAL_SP_STAMINA_CALCULATION_IPGS_WEIGHT
100
HISTORICAL_SP_STAMINA_CALCULATION_CGP_WEIGHT
100

You can then change the value for each of them.

IPGS refers to InningOuts pitched per Game Started
CGP stands for Complete Game Percentage

highandoutside · 01-25-2011, 12:48 PM

I'm a bit surprised that you used the same settings for stolen bases, bunting and hit and run throughout most of the history of your sim. I'm curious how those settings worked in the dead ball era, when I would think those settings should be much higher. Thanks.

01-02-2011, 02:08 AM	#41
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	Frank Thomas Ernie Banks Ron Santo Thankx

01-02-2011, 01:30 PM	#42
Garlon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,748	Frank Thomas BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .301/.419/.555/.974 Sim: .299/.431/.559/.990 Ernie Banks BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .274/.330/.500/.830 Sim: .274/.323/.489/.812 Ron Santo BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .277/.362/.464/.826 Sim: .273/.353/.444/.797 Real vs Sim AB: 8143 vs 8656 H: 2254 vs 2365 2B: 365 vs 372 3B: 67 vs 44 HR: 342 vs 339 BB: 1108 vs 1063 K: 1343 vs 1373

01-02-2011, 08:25 PM	#43
dynaboyj Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 307	Did the Cubs ever win any World Series after 1908?

01-02-2011, 11:45 PM	#45
Garlon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,748	From 1871-1881 when ther were 8 teams in the league, there was only 1 round of the playoffs - the World Series From 1882-1900, 16 teams, 2 divisions each league, 2 rounds of playoffs - LCS and WS. From 1901-1960, 20 teams, 2 divisions each league, LCS and WS. From 1961-1968, 24 teams, 3 divisions each league (Wild Card), Division Searies, LCS, WS. From 1969-2009, 32 teams, 4 divisions each league, DS, LCS, WS. The A's made the playoffs 43 times and were one of the original 8 teams from 1871. The Twins won the World Series 10 times, and they started in 1882. The Cubs won the WS 4 times - 1878, 1879, 1915, 1977. The Brewers, Rockies, and Rays never won the WS. They all entered the league in 1969 and combined for 30 playoff appearances.

01-02-2011, 11:56 PM	#47
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	How many WS wins do the White Sox have? Please tell me atleast 1 more then the Cubs.

01-03-2011, 09:31 AM	#48
68pirate Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 82	I find this dicussion fascinating. A couple of questions. First, in my config file, I don't see any entries regarding SP stamina. Secondly, why did you choose the league expansion parameters you did, such as expanding to 32 teams in 1969?

01-03-2011, 05:49 PM	#49
Garlon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,748	Chicagofan76 - The White Sox won the World Series 8 times in the sim. 1927, 1930, 1948, 1949, 1961, 1973, 1988, 2004. 68pirate - The entries regarding pitcher stamina calculation are the very last two in the file. This is a new entry for OOTP11 and was included in a patch update. So if you're using OOTP10 or not using the most up to date version of OOTP11 then you won't ee it. I used more teams than IRL because I disabled injuries. With more talent always available in the league I was able to put more teams out on the field. Also, this helps to prevent great players ending up behind other great players in the depth chart and not ending up with a starting job. Also, due to the fact that OOTP's AI will play the best players (since hindsight is 20/20), if I played with the historical number of teams in each time period, the superstars would not rack up the totals they should since they'd be pulled closer to the league average.

01-03-2011, 11:32 PM	#50
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	Those r some weird years for the Sox to win the Series. Most of the late 40's teams had little pitching, and i find it odd that none of the mid to late 50's teams made it.......did the 8 men out still get kicked out of baseball in your league, my guess would be no.

01-04-2011, 07:16 AM	#51
Garlon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,748	Chicagofan76 - I used the rookie draft. Players did not play for the same teams they did IRL. Even if I used the setting to import players to their real life teams, with all the player movement in MLB history the league still would have turned out vastly different. In my sim, players retired acording to history, so their final season in MLB IRL is their last season in OOTP - so the 8 men out did not play more seasons than they did IRL.

01-04-2011, 11:25 PM	#52
Kobeck Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 488	you inspired me to do something similar. I did not attempt many changes and just used the OOTP 1871 startup Just curious about the size of your save folder. from 1871 to 1Jan2011 the save file wound up being 58.4 GB, 3432k files & 1218 folders - NO LOGS were saved. Took about 30 hours too run with full minors from day 1. Niekro retired in 77 in my league and did not even reach 200 wins - Should have had an extra decade of heaving knuckleballs

01-05-2011, 03:19 AM	#53
Garlon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,748	450 meg for the entire league. I turned off saving some features, I did not use any minor leagues since they are really unnecessary in a historical sim, and I set Statistics Detail to Low.

01-05-2011, 05:50 PM	#56
68pirate Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 82	I can confirm that I have upgraded to 11.2.28 and my config file still doesn't contain stamina entries. I have done this on two separate computers.

01-08-2011, 10:21 PM	#57
kev24fan Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 489	Garlon: You said the A's made the playoffs 43 times. How many World Series did they win? I would hate to make the playoffs 43 times and never win the World Series.

01-09-2011, 12:47 AM	#58
SpaceMonkey13 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Space Posts: 73	Seems like everyone's stats were very accurate. Anyone fall off the table or become a surprise star? Is this setting the reason for the accuracy? Talent Change Randomness: 1

01-15-2011, 10:04 AM	#59
Garlon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,748	68pirate - Just add these two lines to the botton of the config file: HISTORICAL_SP_STAMINA_CALCULATION_IPGS_WEIGHT 100 HISTORICAL_SP_STAMINA_CALCULATION_CGP_WEIGHT 100 You can then change the value for each of them. IPGS refers to InningOuts pitched per Game Started CGP stands for Complete Game Percentage

01-25-2011, 12:48 PM	#60
highandoutside All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 631	I'm a bit surprised that you used the same settings for stolen bases, bunting and hit and run throughout most of the history of your sim. I'm curious how those settings worked in the dead ball era, when I would think those settings should be much higher. Thanks.