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04-03-2015, 11:21 PM | #1 |
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Standings Not Accurate
Is this a limitation of the game, or a bug?
I've seen many times when the percentage made the difference in the standings order, and the game has always shown it correctly. But this time, the WSox should be in first place, and Detroit in second place. |
04-03-2015, 11:26 PM | #2 |
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I'm guessing it is because the game ranks the teams in the standings by the "GB" statistic first and winning percentage 2nd which can yield incorrect results in cases where there are modest or large differences in the amount of games each team has played.
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04-03-2015, 11:28 PM | #3 |
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So, the White Sox are in first place, a half game behind?.....how would you list that anyways.....I don't think you can complain about the way OOTP did it unless the season is over and they don't make the playoffs.....that would be an issue.....
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04-04-2015, 12:04 AM | #4 |
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California has a half game lead over Chicago and Detroit. That simple.
Percentages are practically irrelevent in the standings.
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04-04-2015, 12:14 AM | #5 |
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04-04-2015, 12:42 AM | #6 |
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So are you saying in the example above that Chicago should win the division if the season ended today?
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1978 FLORIDA STATE LEAGE Final First Half Standings NORTH DIVISION St. Petersburgh 41 25 .621 ½ Winter Haven 45 28 .616 - Tampa 43 28 .606 1 Lakeland 31 38 .449 12 Dunedin 29 43 .403 15½ Daytona Beach 21 48 .304 22 SOUTH DIVISION Fort Myers 38 30 .559 - Miami 38 35 .521 2½ Pompano Beach 35 36 .493 4½ Fort Lauderdale 35 37 .486 5 West Palm Beach 33 41 .446 8 Last edited by Le Grande Orange; 04-04-2015 at 12:49 AM. |
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But, yes, if there was no way the games could be made up, Chicago would be the champion. |
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04-04-2015, 12:53 AM | #10 |
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Had that one handy as some time I ago I had perused through older online issues of The Sporting News looking for the first and second half standings in the minor leagues, as the main minor league reference sources usually only list the overall standings, not the standings for each half.
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04-04-2015, 12:54 AM | #11 |
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My point to the OP is he may be too focused on the percentages and not the win-lost records. Is there any case precedence of that happening in MLB?
I believe OOTP is displaying the standings correctly.
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04-04-2015, 01:05 AM | #12 |
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Best I can find for you is 1981 2nd half AL east standings lists Cleveland finishing ahead of NY even though they had the same "GB" stat. But winning percentage does take precedent in any case where it creates a different order of standings than "GB".
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04-04-2015, 01:05 AM | #13 |
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The winning percentage has always been the correct way in determining the order of teams in the standings. Whether it's day ten, or the last game of the season. That stat could also used for determing other things, such as how many days in a row did a team hold first place. Now it's a few more games down the road, and look again. Now the WSox are in third, one less game played than the first place team. I find it odd.
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04-04-2015, 01:08 AM | #14 |
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It seems that there might be an issue with the schedule when there is a 7 game difference in games played.
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04-04-2015, 01:10 AM | #15 |
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I'll log it as a bug and we'll see what happens. Pretty minor, though, unless at the end of the season, GB is used to pick the champion.
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It is my understanding that is why OOTP and others list the standings the way they do.
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You won't find examples as clear as the FSL because the majors typically don't conclude its seasons with that large a discrepancy in games played to a decision between clubs, plus with the larger number of games played overall the more extreme situations tend to get evened out. The closest example would be the 1915 Federal League season, where Chicago was tied with St. Louis in terms of games behind but won the league pennant due to its .566 winning percentage compared to St. Louis' .565 percentage. (Third place Pittsburgh finished a half-game behind and with a .562 winning percentage.) A similar situation happened twice in the International League. In 1902 Toronto and Buffalo were tied for first in terms of games behind but Toronto won the pennant due to its 85-42 .669 record compared to Buffalo's 88-45 .662 record. In 1928 Buffalo was zero games behind Rochester but nevertheless finished second due to Rochester having the greater winning percentage: 90-74 .549 compared to Buffalo's 92-76 .548 record. Last edited by Le Grande Orange; 04-04-2015 at 01:21 AM. |
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04-04-2015, 01:22 AM | #18 |
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Thanks Questdog.
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I meant to say "and not the GB standings".
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