European fighters

[David Myers]

Thanks and thanks again, Rocco, Chris, and Mark. These ratings are superb! Here is a welterweight that I started working on because he also fought for the EBU junior middleweight title. He was the European welterweight champ, though, and will be included in the WW pack.

[David Myers]

Viennese welterweight. Born 1947. Fought from 1965 to 1974. Record: 42-8-3 (28).

EBU junior welterweight champion, 1967-1968. Orsolics won the title from Conny Rudhoff in June 1967 and defended it successfully against Juan Albornoz before losing to Bruno Arcari via TKO in May 1968.

EBU welterweight champion, 1969-1970. Orsolics knocked out Jean Josselin in fourth in September 1969 to win title; defended it successfully against Klaus Klein and Carmelo Bossi; lost it to Ralph Charles in November 1970, when Orsolics was knocked out in twelfth.

Orsolics then took three shots at the EBU junior middleweight championship, losing each time. Juan Carlos Duran decisioned him in March 1973; Jacques Kechichian tko'd him in February 1974; nine months later, Jose Manuel Duran tko'd him again. Orsolics retired after the loss.

Picture to follow.

[David Myers]

A picture of Johann Orsolics from 1968 when he was Europe's junior welterweight champ.

[vistaman44]

Originally Posted by David Myers

Thanks and thanks again, Rocco, Chris, and Mark. These ratings are superb!

David;
Appreciate the kudos. From your list, I have already rated Souleymane Diallo for my Africa group, and will post him here in a few days, along with contemporary African trialhorse Dramane Ouedraogo, who also campaigned in Europe. Will also post heavyweight Anton Nel, whose picture Chris recently put up in another string.

Will try to look through the list and see if there are others I have done in connection with other projects, or could do quickly. The Africa group is getting a little more involved than I thought ... LOL!

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by David Myers

Thanks and thanks again, Rocco, Chris, and Mark. These ratings are superb! Here is a welterweight that I started working on because he also fought for the EBU junior middleweight title. He was the European welterweight champ, though, and will be included in the WW pack.

Thanks David and all for the contributions. I'll tell you though, as I look through these various fighters, rating even just the guys who fought for an EBU title is just touching the tip of the iceburg of european fighters who accumulated decent records through their careers and who'd be great to eventually add on to the game.

Rocco

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Light Welterweight Rating 4
Spain 1964-69
34 wins / 7 losses / 4 draws / 3 KO

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

From 1964 through all of 1968, Torcida fought his entire career in homeland Spain compiling a 34-5-4 record. His biggest opponents in that time, he had his trouble with. He lost fights to Jose Legra twice, Miguel Velasquez and fought a 10 round draw with Ernesto Miranda. He lost by 9th round TKO to Antonio Ortiz in November 1966 for the Spanish Light Welterweight Title.

In March 1969 he traveled outside Spain for the first time, to take on Ken Buchanan in Solihull, England. He fought Buchanan (who was 30-0-0 at the time), to a full 10 scheduled rounds. Even though Buchanan came away with the decision, Torcida still managed to earn himself a shot at the European (EBU) Light Welterweight Title, in December 1969 against Bruno Arcari in Bologna, Italy. Torcida was no match for Arcari as Bruno KO'd Torcida in the 5th round. Only the 2nd time Torcida was stopped in a fight. In ended up being Torcida's final fight.

[David Myers]

Rocco,

My fighter packs include extra fighters in addition to the EBU and Commonwealth champions and contenders. I look for the champions' and contenders' opponents and try to add as many as I can who compiled 20+ victories. Even then, as you suggest, I am only removing a few pieces of gravel from a children's playground.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Welterweight Rating 3
Australia 1954-59
27 wins / 6 losses / 0 draws / 14 KO

Trainer: Ern McQuillan

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Todd was 21-2-0 and had recorded 4 straight early round knockouts when he was KO'd in the 11th round by Billy Stanley in January 1958. Interesting in that about two months later the two of them squared off in another bout for the vacant Australian Welterweight Title. This time Todd was victor in a 15 round decision. These two fights with Stanley were the first of 9 consecutive fights that would go 11 plus rounds for Todd.

In July 1958 Todd successfuly defended his title in a 15 round decision over Darby Brown. After that came victories over Willie Morton, Franco Rosini and Sandy Manuel that set up Todd's fight in August 1959 against George Barnes for the Commonwealth (British Empire) Welterweight Title along with defending his Australian Title. Barnes defeated Todd in a 15 round decision.

After loosing to Mick Leahy by 11th round KO two months after his loss with Barnes, Todd fought Barnes in a rematch in December 1959 for the Commonwealth and Australian Welterweight Titles. This time Barnes stopped Todd in the 6th round. That turned out to be Todd's last career fight.

[CONN CHRIS]

JUAN ALBORNOZ WW (1959-1974) Overall rating = 7

Hometown - Santa Cruz, Tenerife, Spain

76(20)-9-3

Albornoz entered his first title fight (Spanish Lightweight) against the vastly more experienced Fred Galiana (113-16-12). The result was a ninth round KO to Galiana. Albornoz took the Spanish lightweight belt in July of 1961 from Jose-Maria Manrique and held it until Jose Cabrera stopped him in February of 1964. Albornoz reclaimed the belt with a decision over Cabrera one month later and defended two more times before moving up in weight and claiming the vacent EBU Jr. Welterweight belt with a 15 round decision over Andro Lopopolo. His stint as an EBU champion was brief, losing the belt in Berlin on his first defence to Wily Quatuor. In three other attempts at the EBU Jr. Welterweight title, Albornoz was stopped by Johann Orsolics and Bruno Arcari and drew with Orsolics. He also won the Spanish Welterweight title and reclaimed the Spanish Lightweight belt between EBU title tries.

Some of his other notable bouts included wins over Bobby Ros (4) and Giordano Campari. A draw with Kid Tano and two losses to Valerio Nunez.

Albornoz retired following his failed EBU title shot against Arcari in 1969 but came out of retirement in 1973 to score three easy victories before Perico Fernandez sent him into retirement for good with a sixth round TKO in 1974.

[David Myers]

The latest fighter pack, containing 81 middleweights and junior middleweights, has been sent to Cornerwork. The pack includes every man who fought in an EBU or Commonwealth middleweight or junior middleweight title bout from 1945 to 1975.

Here is a complete list of the fighters in the pack. Unless noted otherwise, they were rated by me:

George Angelo
Hippolyte Annex
Moya Cesareo Barrera
Jules Bellaiche
Fabio Bettini
Horst Borzoskowski
Richard Bouchez
Al Bourke
Elio Calcabrini
Milo Calhoun
Christian Christensen (--Mark Elwood)
Gilbert Cohen
Nessim Max Cohen
Brian Coxhead
Franz Czandl
Souleymane Diallo
Pascal Di Benedetto
Matt Donovan
Andre Drille
Jose Manuel Duran
Juan Carlos Duran
Pat Dwyer
Billy Ellaway
Jimmy Elliott
Fred Etuati
Franco Festucci
Léon Fouquet
Heinz Freytag
Remo Golfarini
Jo Gonzales
Martin Hansen
Manfred Hass
Gordon Hazell
(Barcelona) José Hernandez
Bo Hogberg
Leen Jansen
Jacques Kechichian
Dieter Klay
Harko Kokmeijer
Christian Larsen
Gilbert Lavoine
Lew Lazar
Mick Leahy
Yolande Leveque (--Mark Elwood)
Johan Louw
Edwin (Fighting) Mack (--Lee Skye)
Kahu Mahanga
Giovanni Manca
Peter Marklewitz
Carlos Marks
Jacques Marty
Les McAteer
Jim Meilleur
Heini Meinhardt (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Adrien Mourguiart
Werner Mundt (--Chris )
Richard (Bos) Murphy
Andres Navarro Moreno
Earl Nikora
Luigi Patruno
Rudi Pepper
Bo Petterson
Ray Phillipe
Gerhard Piaskowy
Charkey Ramon
Max Resch
Jean Baptiste Rolland
Mark Rowe
Jacques Royer-Crecy
Tuna Scanlon
Hans Dieter Schwartz
Lothar Stengel (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Bob Stevens
Jean Stock (--Mark Elwood)
Klaus Stockmann
Hans Stretz
Pat Thomas (--Chris )
Domenico Tiberia (--Mark Elwood)
Louis Trochon
Tommaso Truppi
Hans-Werner Wohlers (--Rocco Del Sesto)

[David Myers]

Here is an update on our progress toward rating every EBU and Commonwealth champion and challenger from 1945 to 1975. The following fighters, not found in the original TBCB database, have been rated as of 3/9/05:

Luis Aisa --Chris
Ali Afakasi --Chris
Domenico Adinolfi --Ice Tea
Juan Albornoz --Chris
Love Allotey --DM
Santo Amonti --DM
Cliff Anderson --DM
George Angelo --DM
Hippolyte Annex --DM
Evan Armstrong --DM
José Arranz --DM
Victor Attivor --DM
Maurice Auzel --Chris
Eddie Avoth --DM
Helmut Ball --Rocco Del Sesto
Nello Barbadoro --DM
Moya Cesareo Barrera --DM
Ron Barton --DM
Piermario Baruzzi --DM
Warner Batchelor --DM
Otello Belardinelli --DM
Jimmy Bell --Chris
Horst Benedens --DM
Fabio Bettini --DM
Dionisio Bisbal --DM
Bruno Bisterzo --Mark Elwood
Francis Bonnardel --DM
Al Bourke --DM
George Bowes --DM
Paco Bueno --Chris
Fred Burns --DM
Elio Calcabrini --DM
Milo Calhoun --DM
Manuel Calvo --DM
Artenio Calzavara --DM
Dante Canè --Rocco Del Sesto
Sergio Caprari --DM
Alvaro Cerasini --Tiger Fan
Guy Caudron --DM
Dominique Cesari --DM
Paul Chervet --DM
Domenico (Antonio) Chiloiro --Chris
Christian Christensen --Mark Elwood
Charles Colin --DM
Joe Cornelis --Mark Elwood
Stan Cullis --Todd Colegrove
Franz Czandl --DM
Freddy DeKerpel --Mark Elwood
Gawie de Klerk --Chris
Giel de Roode --DM
Luis de Santiago --Mark Elwood
Raoul DeGryse --DM
Souleymane Diallo --DM
Pascal Di Benedetto --DM
Idrissa (Eddie) Dione --DM
Kamara Diop --DM
Matt Donovan --DM
Gerald Dreyer --Mark Elwood
Andre Drille --DM
Jose Manuel Duran --Mark Elwood
Juan Carlos Duran --DM
Kid Dussart --Mark Elwood
Pat Dwyer --DM
Jimmy Elliott --DM
Jupp Elze --DM
Fred Etuati --DM
Emile Famechon --Mark Elwood
Guido Ferracin --Mark Elwood
Franco Festucci --DM
Frank Flannery --Mark Elwood
Pat Ford --DM
Léon Fouquet --DM
Heinz Freytag --DM
Tommaso Galli --DM
Giancarlo Garbelli --DM
Mariano Garcia --DM
Teddy Gardner --Mark Elwood
Toro George --DM
Ivor (Kid) Germain --Mark Elwood
Nazzareno Gianelli --Mark Elwood
Lahouari Godih --DM
Pol Goffaux --Rocco Del Sesto
Remo Golfarini --DM
Jo Gonzales --DM
Jesus González Dopico --DM
Klaus Peter Gumpert --Rocco Del Sesto
Lawrence Hafey --DM
Jacques Hairabedian --DM
Joergen Hansen --Chris
Martin Hansen --DM
Aissa Hashas --DM
Vince Hawkins --Mark Elwood
Harry Hayes --DM
Percy Hayles --DM
Gordon Hazell --DM
(Grenada) Jose Hernandez, LW --DM
(Barcelona) Jose Hernandez, JMW --DM
Charlie Hill --DM
Bo Hogberg --DM
Joseph Horny --DM
Harry Hughes --DM
Kevin James --DM
Jorgen Johansen --Mark Elwood
Roy John --DM
Frank Johnson --Mark Elwood
Frankie Jones --DM
Hans Kalbfell --Rocco Del Sesto
Jacques Kechichian --DM
John Kellie --DM
John Kelly --DM
Jim Kenny --Mark Elwood
Karl-Heinz Klein --DM
Wilson Kohlbrecher --Rocco Del Sesto
Harko Kokmeijer --DM
Omar Kouidri --Mark Elwood
Kitione Lave --Rocco Del Sesto
Gilbert Lavoine --DM
Lew Lazar --DM
Mick Leahy --DM
Yolande Leveque --Mark Elwood
Norman Lewis --DM
Derek Lloyd --DM
Johan Louw --DM
Jan Lubbers --Sal
Edwin (Fighting) Mack --LeeSkye
Gerard Macrez --DM
Tore Magnussen --DM
Kahu Mahanga --DM
Fortunato Manca --Mark Elwood
Giovanni Manca --DM
Emilio Marconi --DM
Peter Marklewitz --DM
Carlos Marks --DM
Eric Marsden --DM
Marcel Mathieu --DM
Rocco Mazzola --DM
Danny McAlinden --Rocco Del Sesto
Les McAteer --DM
Sammy McCarthy --DM
John (Young) McCormack --DM
Tommy McGovern --Mark Elwood
Billy McGrandle --DM
Jim Meilleur --DM
Eddie Miller --Mark Elwood
Pedro Molledo --DM
Johnny Molloy --Mark Elwood/DM
Pierre Montane --Mark Elwood/DM
Richard (Bos) Murphy --DM
Dave Needham --DM
Earl Nikora --DM
Fernand Nollet --DM
Alvaro Nuvoloni --DM
Orizu Obilaso --DM
Stephane Olek --Rocco Del Sesto
Dickie O'Sullivan --DM
Danny O'Sullivan --Mark Elwood
Johann Orsolics --DM
Michele Palermo --DM
Luigi Patruno --DM
Svein Erik Paulsen --Sal
Ray Philippe --DM
Al Phillips --Mark Elwood
Robert Pollazon --DM
Antoine Porcel --DM
Aristide Pozzali --DM
Honoré Pratesi --DM
Aldo Pravisani --DM
Yvan Prebeg --Rocco Del Sesto
Johnny Prescott --Rocco Del Sesto
Josef Preys --Mark Elwood
Jacques Prigent --DM
Roberto Proietti --Mark Elwood/DM
Billy Rafferty --DM
Johnny Ralph --DM
Charkey Ramon --DM
Len Reece --DM
Ron Redrup --DM
Paul Albert Renet --DM
Jean Baptiste Rolland --DM
Baby Boy Rolle --DM
Piero Rollo --DM
Luis Romero --Mark Elwood
Giuseppe Ros --Mark Elwood
Pierre Rossi --DM
Paul Roux --DM
Stan Rowan --Mark Elwood
Mark Rowe --DM
Conny Rux --Mark Elwood
Andres Sainz Romero --DM
Maurice Sandeyron --DM
Vittorio Saraudi --Rocco Del Sesto
Antonio Sassarini --DM
Federico Scarponi --DM
Tuna Scanlon --DM
Willy Schagen --Mark Elwood
Guy Schatt --DM
Kurt Schiegl --Rocco Del Sesto
Rudiger Schmidtke --Rocco Del Sesto
Hans Dieter Schwartz --DM
Italo Scortichini --DM
Agustin Senin --DM
Alberto Serti --DM
Bobby Sinn --DM
Louis Skena --DM
Les Smith --DM
Maxie Smith --DM
Jean Sneyers --Mark Elwood
Al Sparks --DM
Franco Sperati --DM
Lothar Stengel --Rocco Del Sesto
Jean Stock --Mark Elwood
Pat Supple --DM
Wally Swift --Sal
Karel Sys --Mark Elwood
Bernie Taylor --DM
Bernard Thebault --Rocco Del Sesto
Eddie Thomas --Mark Elwood
Billy Thompson --Mark Elwood/DM
Trevor Thornberry --DM
Domenico Tiberia --Mark Elwood
Billy Todd --Rocco Del Sesto
Piero Tomasoni --Rocco Del Sesto
Renato Tontini --Tiger Fan
Jose Luis Torcida --Rocco Del Sesto
Jules Touan --Rocco Del Sesto
Daniel Trioulaire --DM
Giancarlo Usai --Rocco Del Sesto
Andre Valignat --DM
Luc van Dam --Mark Elwood
Graham van der Walt --DM
Bep van Klaveren --DM
Johnny Van Rensburg --DM
Mario Vecchiatto --DM
Conny Velensek --Mark Elwood
Daniel Vermandere --Rocco Del Sesto
Pierre Vetroff --DM
Bruno Visintin --DM
Wilhelm von Homburg --Rocco Del Sesto
Gordon Wallace --DM
Jean Walzack --Mark Elwood/DM
Peter Waterman --DM
Jo Weidin --Mark Elwood
Peter Weiland --Rocco Del Sesto
Big Jim West --DM
Jeff White --Rocco Del Sesto
Lennie Williams --DM
Hans-Werner Wohlers --Rocco Del Sesto
Albert Yvel --Mark Elwood
Leon Zadourian --Rocco Del Sesto
Gerhard Zech --Rocco Del Sesto

[David Myers]

And here is a list of the EBU and Commonwealth champions and challengers from 1945 to 1975 who still need to be rated as of 3/9. If anyone wants to rate any of the fighters below, please--repeat, please--feel welcome. There are 78 boxers remaining to be rated. And with so many yet to go, I have no toes to tread upon.

George Aldridge
Dominique Azzaro
Valere Benedetto
Silvano Bertini
Walter Blaser
Eddie Blay
Ken Bradley
Franco Brondi
Barry Brown
Darby Brown
Nevio Carbi
Auguste Caulet
Pietro Ceru
Ralph Charles
Felix Chiocca
Attu Clottey
Johnny Cooke
Carmelo Coscia
Elio Cotena
Jean de Keers
Emile Delmine
Emile Di Cristo
Bobby Dunne
Salvatore Fabrizio
Romano Fanali
Enzo Farinelli
Robert Gallois
Carmelo (Gancho) Garcia
Manolo Garcia
Marc Gervais
Domingo Gimenez
Giovanni Girgenti
Tommy Glencross
Jose Ramon Gomez Fouz
Antonio Guinaldo
Michele Gullotti
Werner Handtke
Max Hebeisen
Chuck Henderson
Jacques Herbillon
Darkie Hughes
Jose Antonio Jiminez
Cemal Kemaci
Klaus Klein
Louis Klopper
Jean Pierre Le Jaouen
Michel Lefevbre
Roy Louw
Joe Lucy
Jean Machterlinck
Tony Mancini
Kid Marcel
Francisco Martinez Sancho
Lino Mastellaro
Sammy McSpadden
Bruno Melissano
Sergio Milan
Billy Moeller
Des Morrison
Benny Nieuwenhuizen
John O'Brien
Antonio (Toni) Ortiz
Pat Patrick
Enzo Petriglia
Egisto Peyre
Des Rea
Alan Richardson
Rene Roque
Rodolfo Sanchez
Joey Santos
Manny Santos
Andrea Silanos
John Smillie
Tony Smith
Maurice Tavant
Leonard Tavarez
Bernie Terrell
Pierre-Claude Thomias

[vistaman44]

David;

Since we've already duplicated efforts on Diallo, disregard my previous post about which fighters I would post later. Unless someone else is working on them, I'll try to do Antoinio Guinaldo, Des Morrison and Kid Marcel.

[CONN CHRIS]

Thanks for all the effort David. I know it has been mentioned before by Rocco and others, but there are a huge batch of good European boxers that should be rated to enhance the game. In the few ratings that I have done, I ran across 6 to 10 fighters that I thought surely must have been rated by someone only to find that they were not in the database.

We will need to keep this thread alive for quite a while after you finish the EBU title project to make a dent. Australia, North and South America seem to have been beaten to death while Europe, Africa and the Far East are sorely lacking.

Looking forward to seeing David's latest and Mark's next posting at Cornerwork.

Christopher

[vistaman44]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

I know it has been mentioned before by Rocco and others, but there are a huge batch of good European boxers that should be rated to enhance the game. In the few ratings that I have done, I ran across 6 to 10 fighters that I thought surely must have been rated by someone only to find that they were not in the database. We will need to keep this thread alive for quite a while after you finish the EBU title project to make a dent.
Christopher

Dead on, Chris. Has anyone rated Luis Folledo? A 75-win European I keep coming across.

If someone has, link me up, please. If not, I'll add him to my list.

[David Myers]

Mark,

Folledo is already in the TBCB database. If you've accidentally deleted your ratings let me know and I can post his file.

As for Diallo. Post your version too, I say. The two could be compared and revised into one Super Duper Accurate guy.

[CONN CHRIS]

I'll take Ali Afakasi and Luis Aisa tonight. I'll be in my office virtualy all night, so a few breaks will be welcomed.

Christopher

[CONN CHRIS]

ALI AFAKASI WW (1970-1980) Overall Rating = 5

Born - Samoa
Hometown - Aukland, New Zealand

28(16)-7-1

The Samoan born Afakasi fought most of his career in Australia and New Zealand. He out pointed Rocky Mattioli for the Australasian Welterweight title and was knocked out in the tenth by Hector Thompson in their 1975 bout for the Commonwealth Jr Welterweight belt. Other notable bouts included a split decision loss to Roger Zami, a decision win over Joe Tetteh, three losses to Hector Thompson and a KO loss to Sakaria Ve. All five of his stoppage losses were KOs.

[CONN CHRIS]

LUIS AISA FW (1963-1975) Overall Rating = 5

Hometown - Bilbao, Spain

41(2)-28-17

The two-time Spanish Featherweight champion lost in two cracks at the EBU Jr Lightweight belt to Tommaso Galli. He had a 4-1-1 record against Bob Allotey and was 2-1-2 against Kid Tano. Lost to Jose Legra and Ernesto Miranda, defeated Rodolfo Sanchez and drew twice with Perico Fernandez.

[David Myers]

Thanks for Afakasi and Aisa, Chris. Okay. Next up for me are the European and Commonwealth featherweights.