Bear’s 4-Fs (Fictional Fighters of Film and Fiction)

[Austin]

Bear,

Looking forward to your Diggstown ratings! Here are minor adjustment to Robby Gillon and Slim Busby.

[bear]

Originally Posted by Austin

Bear,

Looking forward to your Diggstown ratings! Here are minor adjustment to Robby Gillon and Slim Busby.

They should be coming soon, Austin. I'll concentrate on the movie version and rate the characters as heavies and post them here. The Diggs character in the book didn't figure into things very much and was a black light-heavy. In the film he is a white ex-heavyweight and is more involved in the plot. I won't look at your rating til I finish mine. We can get some grounds for comparison of how we rate guys. I'll also do my version of the book characters so we can get a comparitive handle on how we rate guys and exchange some thoughts about that. Carry on from out converstaions at Canastota.

Bear

[Austin]

From the Book Poor Nigger by Orio Vergani

This piece of boxing fiction is loosely based on the life of Battling Siki. Considering the time of publication 1930, the adultery and interracial sex must have caused the book to be banned in Boston. For the most part the book was a narrative told in the 3rd person with a sad ending!

George Boykin, his character was based on Battling Siki

Martin Bouttier, lhw, trained in the same gym as George Boykin when Boykin first came to France.

Gilbert Faber(207); fw the Parisian pugilist, fair-haired and handsome, swift and light-footed.

Stephane Francois, lhw champion based on George Carpentier

Marcel Leroux (181), lhw champion of France, who had lost big fight in England

Austin

[Austin]

From the Book Poor Nigger by Orio Vergan--Part II

This piece of boxing fiction is loosely based on the life of Battling Siki. Considering the time of publication 1930, the adultery and interracial sex must have caused the book to be banned in Boston. For the most part the book was a narrative told in the 3rd person with a sad ending!

Austin

[Austin]

From the Book Boxing Stories by Robert E. Howard

Sailor Steve Costigan a tough game man who, though never rated better than a second-class man, yet gave some first-raters terrific battles. This is Howard's main character in most of his stories. Very difficult to rate as he's dropped often but never KO'd.

From the story The Pit of the Serpent

One-Round Grannigan, former champion of the Sea Girl, lost to both Costigan & Slade by KO

Battling Slade—HW champion of the Dauntless, an overgrown Young Griffo. The dastardly villain of this tale.

Mike Leary of the Blue Whale who once beat Costigan.

Boatswain Hagney, HW champion of the British Asiatic naval fleet, who once KO’d Slade.

[Austin]

From the Book Boxing Stories by Robert E. Howard--Cont.

From the story The Pit of the Serpent

Sailor Handler, once fought a 20 rd draw w Costigan

From the story The Bull Dog Breed

Tiger Valois, HW champ of the French navy, 6’ 1.5”, 205 lbs”, fights Steve Costigan in a grudge match. He was like a cat; each move he made was a blur of speed, and when he hit he hit quick and hard. He was a brainy fighter.

Tom Roche, KO’d by Steve Costigan in Liverpool

From the story The Champion of the Forecastle

Sven Larson, of the Sea Girl, 6’ 4”, 245 lbs of muscle, beat Mushy Hansen in a fight, had been defeated by Sailor Steve Costigan

Olaf Ericson, 6’ 4”, 225 lbs of lean muscle, use to be able to beat Sven Larson, until Larson took lessons from Costigan

[Austin]

From the Book Boxing Stories by Robert E. Howard--Cont.

From the story Waterfront Law

Kid Delrano, a classy boxer but shy on the punch. Out pointed and won on foul over Sailor Steve Costigan

Bucko Brent, of the Elinor from Australian, fights Costiganfights Costigan, has TNT in his right hand and a good left jab. Cagey boxer with quick hands.

Bill Slane, Kid Delrano sparring partner

Texas Fist

Biff Leary from Galveston, Texas, fights Costigan in a miner’s camp. Grew up with Sailor Steve Costigan. His style is the mirror image of Costigans'.

The Fightin’est Pair

Limey Grieson,wins by DQ over Costigan. Has good left jab, carries his right high. Costigan has something else on his mind, who has stolen his white bulldog, Mike.

[Austin]

From the Book Boxing Stories by Robert E. Howard

From the story Vikings of the Gloves

Hakon Torkilsen, sails on the Viking outa Copenhagen. Hits hard with either hand. Costigan has a problem, if he wins the fight, his captain will lose his ship on a bad bet.

From the story A New Game for Costigan

Terry Hoolihan, mw champ, medium height and weight, thick neck, square shoulders, deep chest and lean waist. Hard puncher.

From the story Hard-Fisted Sentiment

Shifty Strozza, mw contender. A natural gift of slipping and side-stepping, medium height, broad-shouldered, cruel in the ring, fighting around the world to gain attention

Benny Goldstein, mw, sparring partner for Shifty Strozza.

[Austin]

From the Book Boxing Stories by Robert E. Howard

From the story Crowd-Horror

Johnny Hilan, a good clever light heavyweight who worked as a sparring partner.

Tommy Olsen, a clever light heavyweight, but not a man-killer.

From the story Iron Men

Flash Sullivan, the clever LHW champion.

From the story Kid Galahad

Kid Allison, LHW, Contender for the LHW title, tough, clever and shifty, good punch, elbows close, accurate puncher

Humberto Lopez, “the Cuban Shadow” Big name in NY, promoters have doubts that Kid Allison can stand up to his power!!

[vistaman44]

... movie, but here's "Old Blue Eyes" as a boxer, Frank Sinatra.

[bear]

Originally Posted by vistaman44

... movie, but here's "Old Blue Eyes" as a boxer, Fank Sinatra.

Thanks, Mark
I don't know if be played a boxer in any film, but his dad fought and he was a fan.

Bear

[Austin]

Bear,

When I saw your post I was so excited. When I opened it there were no new boxers. What are you working on? I hope it includes some FW's are there only 9 in the Universe.

Austin

[bear]

Originally Posted by Austin

Bear,

When I saw your post I was so excited. When I opened it there were no new boxers. What are you working on? I hope it includes some FW's are there only 9 in the Universe.

Austin

Austin
I have loads of films on tap as well as some short stories. I've been muddling along. Had a bit of a health scare recently. Medical tests put me on the border line for some serious problems. I've have been getting at least a half hour of exercise a day (mostly wallking) and being very careful with my diet. In the past month I've gained two notches on my belt and no longer look like a stunt double for James Toney. I've got an October 1st deadline for a work related project looming over my shoulder and I've got to teach myself cascading style sheets in order to complete it.
I went cold turkey on caffeine, which is something I never thought possible. Strangely I don't feel the need to be jump started every morning.
The walking has given me some increased flexibility and my arthritis seems a little less cranky.
I don't see many feathers on the immediate horizen but I'll keep the class in mind. As far as film fiction goes the Dead End Kids fight related films could provide some lower weight classes. Gorcy, Hall, and Jordan as well as Frankie Darrow would be lower weight group types. Darro played a feather in the 1938 film born to fight. I don't recall if I done that one yet but I can push it up.

Bear

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[bear]

From the short story
"Lesson Plan" in
Antioxidants and Other Stories
by Terry Bennett
Toby Press
New Milford, CT, 2004

Blake Paterson MW 3 boxer
Prospect who died in Viet Nam 1968. Brother of this story's protagonist.

[bear]

From the short story
"Saving Grace" in
Antioxidants and Other Stories
by Terry Bennett
Toby Press
New Milford, CT, 2004

Ryan "Mister Unstopable" Taherne MW 3 slugger

and

Rafael Pal "Hombre" Hernandez FW 1 boxer

Little given on the latter guy in the story, not even a weight class so I gave him one and made him a tomato can. Making best guess at ages and career dates and years of birth

Bear

[bear]

character from
"Trading Corners" in
Antioxidants and Other Stories
by Terry Bennett
Toby Press
New Milford, CT, 2004
story takes place circa 1999

This is a really good fight story, IMO. When his fighters stable is sold to a new manager, trainer Harlan Tucker has to work the opponent's corner in a big bout. Tucker is a retired fighter.

Harlan Tucker WW 4 Either

Bear

[bear]

Featured fighters in this story are:

Zak "The Red Hammer" Zakharov MW 7 Slugger
a rising star
and
Skeet "Slick" Lewis MW 8 Boxer
a fading veteran that had been trained for a long time by Harlan Tucker

Lewis has a stablemate

Ruben Vasques CW 5 Boxer

Bear

[bear]

Victims and sparring partners in this story are:

Hector Martinez4f mw 4 Slugger

Hank "Tex" McGuire MW 4 Slugger

"Charming Billy" Stearns MW 3 Boxer

Greggor Markov MW 3 slugger

T.C. Garcia4f MW 1 slugger

[bear]

Corner men: Trainers and Cutmen include the following if anyone wishes to create some fictional trainers.

Big Jim Duvall
Trainer. migrated to Los Angeles after working in Texas and louisiana. Took Harlan Tucker on as apprentice 20 yrs earlier.

Kirby Daniels
Trainer good at honing a fighter that knows what he is doing. thin on patience. Rants and raves if he has to work on fundamentals.

Frankie Preston
Trainer solid works with men of any age and builds on what's there.

Tito Carvell
Trainer one of the best. Breaks down every fighter and starts over. insists on a new foundation. Veterans don't like him.

Frank Tanner
Trainer and cut man. Often worked with Harlan Tucker as cutman.

Manny gonzalez
Trainer of Zakharov. Zak doesn't listen to his advice concerning fast boxers.

Conrad Volker
Cornerman cutman woking with Manny and Tucker for Zakharov.

Bear