Vote for Hockey Project name - Page 3

outrider64 · 10-28-2011, 07:53 PM

The name of this hockey game does need to be something catchy or something not "boring", in order to grab the audience it to get established.

EA Sports games like NHL and Madden don't have catchy names because the company itself is what draws gamers to buy their titles. NHL 12 or Madden 12 doesn't exactly make one jump from their couch and feel the need to buy the game because of the title, it's because EA Sports the company is the known name.

Being that text based sports are a niche hobby, the word needs to get out that OOTP Developments is in the process of introducing a new hockey game. OOTP 12 and iOOTP are drawing rave reviews from sports related websites.

My suggestion is for one of the OOTP game developers to reach out to the websites admins who have rated the baseball games and ask them if they could announce on their websites that a new hockey game is in the development stages from OOTP and a suggestion for a title from the readers would be welcome.

It could even include a free copy of the game if a person's title is chosen.

This way the naming of the title is not limited to just this forum. Since there were about 100 or so suggestions, I think that could double or even triple by reaching out to people beyond this forum. Thanks.

erikthered · 10-28-2011, 10:45 PM

I actually like the name World Hockey Manager...

erikthered · 10-28-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by outrider64

The name of this hockey game does need to be something catchy or something not "boring", in order to grab the audience it to get established.

EA Sports games like NHL and Madden don't have catchy names because the company itself is what draws gamers to buy their titles. NHL 12 or Madden 12 doesn't exactly make one jump from their couch and feel the need to buy the game because of the title, it's because EA Sports the company is the known name.

Being that text based sports are a niche hobby, the word needs to get out that OOTP Developments is in the process of introducing a new hockey game. OOTP 12 and iOOTP are drawing rave reviews from sports related websites.

My suggestion is for one of the OOTP game developers to reach out to the websites admins who have rated the baseball games and ask them if they could announce on their websites that a new hockey game is in the development stages from OOTP and a suggestion for a title from the readers would be welcome.

It could even include a free copy of the game if a person's title is chosen.

This way the naming of the title is not limited to just this forum. Since there were about 100 or so suggestions, I think that could double or even triple by reaching out to people beyond this forum. Thanks.

I'm not sure I agree. I think it would actually be more important for the game to have real league affiliations than a catchy name. I got into "NHL Eastside Hockey Manager" not because of any flashy naming, but rather because--from the title--I knew that when I spent my money, I was getting a game already full of official logos, rosters, league format, etc. In fact, I came across the 05 version while desperately searching for any NHL game for Mac. Of course, once I spent the cash, I was hooked.

That's not to say that I wouldn't buy this game if it didn't have official licensing. I certainly would, but I'm already familiar with the sports simulation genre through EHM and, subsequently, FM. Someone who is not already familiar with that type of game would probably be more likely to be drawn in based on content rather than just name. EA's games work, not because of a catchy title, but because people want to play using their favorite teams and players and so forth.

outrider64 · 10-29-2011, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by erikthered

I'm not sure I agree. I think it would actually be more important for the game to have real league affiliations than a catchy name. I got into "NHL Eastside Hockey Manager" not because of any flashy naming, but rather because--from the title--I knew that when I spent my money, I was getting a game already full of official logos, rosters, league format, etc. In fact, I came across the 05 version while desperately searching for any NHL game for Mac. Of course, once I spent the cash, I was hooked.

That's not to say that I wouldn't buy this game if it didn't have official licensing. I certainly would, but I'm already familiar with the sports simulation genre through EHM and, subsequently, FM. Someone who is not already familiar with that type of game would probably be more likely to be drawn in based on content rather than just name. EA's games work, not because of a catchy title, but because people want to play using their favorite teams and players and so forth.

You are right about having real players, teams etc.
I guess the point I was trying to make was for OOTP Developments name to become more exposed to casual gamers who may or may not have heard of the company and the excellent games they have been creating.
Better marketing increases sales which would help in creating new games and adding new features to the baseball games

Nightmare · 10-29-2011, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dave1927p

I don't really like any of those names. It needs to be something catchy that might peak interest. Those come across as sounding boring.

In the end, it doesn't matter to me ; i'm still buying it. But North Americans, especially Canadians care about the National Hockey League. I'd say the best name has to apply the nhl (without using it lol) but at the same time not alienating others. Though call

"National Hockey [Manager] 2012" or "Executive Hockey 2012" would be mine but even that sounds boring.

In that case why not call it Eliteserien Hockey Manager or NLA, SM-Liiga, DEL, or even better Kontinental Hockey Manager? It's not just about selling it in North America, and NHL is certainly not the only league in the world that people follow. Some of us(including yours truly) don't even follow it...

Postman · 10-29-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare

In that case why not call it Eliteserien Hockey Manager or NLA, SM-Liiga, DEL, or even better Kontinental Hockey Manager? It's not just about selling it in North America, and NHL is certainly not the only league in the world that people follow. Some of us(including yours truly) don't even follow it...

Agreed, but the NHL is the world's premier league, just as the NBA and MLB are for their sports. FIFA doesn't really have one, though the Barclay's Premier League comes close (certainly not the MLS!).

So, I think that for business reasons, OOTP Dev should tie the name somehow to the world's premier league, i.e. the NHL. That's not to say that if available, I wouldn't rule out being a general manager in, say, the Swedish league. That would be new and different.

Chicagofan76 · 10-29-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Postman

Agreed, but the NHL is the world's premier league, just as the NBA and MLB are for their sports. FIFA doesn't really have one, though the Barclay's Premier League comes close (certainly not the MLS!).

So, I think that for business reasons, OOTP Dev should tie the name somehow to the world's premier league, i.e. the NHL. That's not to say that if available, I wouldn't rule out being a general manager in, say, the Swedish league. That would be new and different.

I agree
Granted Hockey is more popular than baseball worldwide, but people dont buy OOTP to play the Venezuelan Winter league or to play Endor Baseball (me excluded) the hockey game should be no different, I know all the good players come from Europe and Canada but I cant tell you a single league in those countries. MLS isnt the top tier of soccer? darn. Which is another reason why Americans hate soccer.

AESP_pres · 10-29-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

World Hockey Manager may be pretty plain but it perfectly sums up the game and WHM makes for a nice acronym.

Exactly

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Originally Posted by RBLwebguy

World Hockey Manager may appeal to you fellas over that side of the pond but in North America it isn't a cool name for a hockey sim.

I'm Canadian and the name sound perfectly right to me

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Originally Posted by deanemj

I'm shocked that the developers haven't chosen OOTP Hockey to match their flagship product.

Wouldn't make any sense... last time I've check the sport was not played in a park

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Originally Posted by 21C

World Hockey Manager (or WoHoMan) was a game about 10 years ago. I don't know if that has any effect on current naming.

Just need to change the name for World Hockey League Manager, doesn't sound like a big problem to me

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Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

I agree
Granted Hockey is more popular than baseball worldwide, but people dont buy OOTP to play the Venezuelan Winter league or to play Endor Baseball (me excluded) the hockey game should be no different, I know all the good players come from Europe and Canada but I cant tell you a single league in those countries.

Canadian here and I've never played with the NHL in NHL : EHM 2007, always an European league or the LJMHQ. So don't generalize on this, some fan knows that european hockey is a better representation of the sport than what we have here...

dcpcarmona · 10-29-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AESP_pres

Exactly

I'm Canadian and the name sound perfectly right to me

Wouldn't make any sense... last time I've check the sport was not played in a park

Just need to change the name for World Hockey League Manager, doesn't sound like a big problem to me

Canadian here and I've never played with the NHL in NHL : EHM 2007, always an European league or the LJMHQ. So don't generalize on this, some fan knows that european hockey is a better representation of the sport than what we have here...

Final time...Behind the Glass Hockey Manager

Chicagofan76 · 10-29-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AESP_pres

Exactly

Wouldn't make any sense... last time I've check the sport was not played in a park

Canadian here and I've never played with the NHL in NHL : EHM 2007, always an European league or the LJMHQ. So don't generalize on this, some fan knows that european hockey is a better representation of the sport than what we have here...

Which is why Out Of The Rink Hockey is the best name and sure people play Canadian baseball leagues, Domician, Australian. It doesnt mean that those leagues are better than MLB or in this case NHL.

dave1927p · 10-30-2011, 12:44 PM

What makes EAs madden NFL Football and NHL series not a boring title is that it has the top league in the world in the title but in order to do that of course needs to be lisenced. These games cannot do that.

I like Dynasty Hockey 2012 - although it wouldn't surprise me if it's already taken.

"Outside the Rink" or "Out of the Rink Hockey" is cute but i don't like it. The purpose would be that it might attract ootp fans to the game? Well, i think they'll be checking it out no matter what name it is if they have a passing interest in the game because it's made by ootp. And what professional hockey team calls their arena a rink? None of them. A rink is smalltime minor hockey. This isn't a minor hockey game

And why argue for Worldwide Hockey Manager - the name is already taken....

Canadians love hockey. NHL Hockey. But again, in the end the name really doesn't matter too much. It's all about the features of the product, interface etc etc. Although this is a fun little debate

EDIT: Yeah, dynasty hockey already taken.

DWK · 10-30-2011, 04:07 PM

Behind the Bench Hockey Manager Nice!!!

dave1927p · 10-30-2011, 05:08 PM

is "Hall of Fame" a lisenced trademark?

If not here's another one "Hall of Fame Hockey" isn't that the ultimate goal for your GM

Is there already a game called "Dynasty Hockey"?

Chicagofan76 · 10-30-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dave1927p

is "Hall of Fame" a lisenced trademark?

If not here's another one "Hall of Fame Hockey" isn't that the ultimate goal for your GM

Is there already a game called "Dynasty Hockey"?

I like Hall Of Fame Hockey

Charlie Hough · 10-30-2011, 06:02 PM

Wow. I don't say this to be self-serving, but I honestly thought my suggestion of Top of the Net Hockey was the most logical and sensible choice.

It's the closest in form and style to Out of the Park Baseball, and it would make for a similarly convenient abbreviation (TOTN).

However, whatever name is chosen, it should NOT be based on a fan poll. It needs to be based on the marketability of the name and whether it will help generate interest and sales.

dave1927p · 10-30-2011, 08:45 PM

Top of the net is where the water bottle goes, not the puck

But yes i agree with you that the name probably shouldn't be made by a poll - especially by those that really know next to nothing about the game and the direction it's going

jbergey22 · 10-31-2011, 12:31 AM

People sure do get sour grapes when their suggestion isnt chosen dont they? LOL

I think they are all fine choices. I chose IHM.

DWK · 10-31-2011, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

People sure do get sour grapes when their suggestion isnt chosen dont they? LOL

isn't that the truth

Erik W. · 10-31-2011, 07:21 AM

To those suggesting "Out of the Rink", I don't really think it makes sense. Out of the Park works because a baseball hit out of the park (in fair territory) is a good thing. A puck hit out of the rink just means there's a stoppage in play.

As for my own vote, I went with International Hockey Manager. My problem with World Hockey Manager, even before reading the thread and seeing that there was already a game with that name, is that it immediately made me think of World Basketball Manager.

The other two options are fine with me, too. None of the names have much sizzle, but none of them are horrible, either.

eMLBCommish · 10-31-2011, 11:33 AM

I am excited to hear of the hockey initiative.

Personally, I would've preferred "Five Hole Hockey Manager" or "Hat Trick Hockey Manager"

View Poll Results: What is your favorite game name?
Behind the Bench Hockey Manager	49	32.67%
Top Shelf Hockey Manager	32	21.33%
World Hockey Manager	53	35.33%
International Hockey Manager	16	10.67%
Voters: 150. You may not vote on this poll

10-28-2011, 07:53 PM	#41
outrider64 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In The Bleachers Posts: 420	The name of this hockey game does need to be something catchy or something not "boring", in order to grab the audience it to get established. EA Sports games like NHL and Madden don't have catchy names because the company itself is what draws gamers to buy their titles. NHL 12 or Madden 12 doesn't exactly make one jump from their couch and feel the need to buy the game because of the title, it's because EA Sports the company is the known name. Being that text based sports are a niche hobby, the word needs to get out that OOTP Developments is in the process of introducing a new hockey game. OOTP 12 and iOOTP are drawing rave reviews from sports related websites. My suggestion is for one of the OOTP game developers to reach out to the websites admins who have rated the baseball games and ask them if they could announce on their websites that a new hockey game is in the development stages from OOTP and a suggestion for a title from the readers would be welcome. It could even include a free copy of the game if a person's title is chosen. This way the naming of the title is not limited to just this forum. Since there were about 100 or so suggestions, I think that could double or even triple by reaching out to people beyond this forum. Thanks. Last edited by outrider64; 10-28-2011 at 07:59 PM.

10-30-2011, 12:44 PM	#51
dave1927p FHM Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brantford, ON Posts: 2,888	What makes EAs madden NFL Football and NHL series not a boring title is that it has the top league in the world in the title but in order to do that of course needs to be lisenced. These games cannot do that. I like Dynasty Hockey 2012 - although it wouldn't surprise me if it's already taken. "Outside the Rink" or "Out of the Rink Hockey" is cute but i don't like it. The purpose would be that it might attract ootp fans to the game? Well, i think they'll be checking it out no matter what name it is if they have a passing interest in the game because it's made by ootp. And what professional hockey team calls their arena a rink? None of them. A rink is smalltime minor hockey. This isn't a minor hockey game And why argue for Worldwide Hockey Manager - the name is already taken.... Canadians love hockey. NHL Hockey. But again, in the end the name really doesn't matter too much. It's all about the features of the product, interface etc etc. Although this is a fun little debate EDIT: Yeah, dynasty hockey already taken. __________________ IN 1964 THE LEAFS WON THE STANLEY CUP :: IT'S ALSO THE YEAR THE CANADIAN FLAG WAS DESIGNED...coincidence? Last edited by dave1927p; 10-30-2011 at 12:59 PM.

10-30-2011, 05:08 PM	#53
dave1927p FHM Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brantford, ON Posts: 2,888	is "Hall of Fame" a lisenced trademark? If not here's another one "Hall of Fame Hockey" isn't that the ultimate goal for your GM Is there already a game called "Dynasty Hockey"? __________________ IN 1964 THE LEAFS WON THE STANLEY CUP :: IT'S ALSO THE YEAR THE CANADIAN FLAG WAS DESIGNED...coincidence? Last edited by dave1927p; 10-30-2011 at 05:18 PM.

10-30-2011, 08:45 PM	#56
dave1927p FHM Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brantford, ON Posts: 2,888	Top of the net is where the water bottle goes, not the puck But yes i agree with you that the name probably shouldn't be made by a poll - especially by those that really know next to nothing about the game and the direction it's going __________________ IN 1964 THE LEAFS WON THE STANLEY CUP :: IT'S ALSO THE YEAR THE CANADIAN FLAG WAS DESIGNED...coincidence? Last edited by dave1927p; 10-30-2011 at 08:46 PM.

10-28-2011, 10:45 PM	#42
erikthered Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 99	I actually like the name World Hockey Manager...

10-30-2011, 04:07 PM	#52
DWK All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Somewhere in South Carolina Posts: 636	Behind the Bench Hockey Manager Nice!!!

10-30-2011, 06:02 PM	#55
Charlie Hough Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,625	Wow. I don't say this to be self-serving, but I honestly thought my suggestion of Top of the Net Hockey was the most logical and sensible choice. It's the closest in form and style to Out of the Park Baseball, and it would make for a similarly convenient abbreviation (TOTN). However, whatever name is chosen, it should NOT be based on a fan poll. It needs to be based on the marketability of the name and whether it will help generate interest and sales.

10-31-2011, 12:31 AM	#57
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,481	People sure do get sour grapes when their suggestion isnt chosen dont they? LOL I think they are all fine choices. I chose IHM.

10-31-2011, 07:21 AM	#59
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	To those suggesting "Out of the Rink", I don't really think it makes sense. Out of the Park works because a baseball hit out of the park (in fair territory) is a good thing. A puck hit out of the rink just means there's a stoppage in play. As for my own vote, I went with International Hockey Manager. My problem with World Hockey Manager, even before reading the thread and seeing that there was already a game with that name, is that it immediately made me think of World Basketball Manager. The other two options are fine with me, too. None of the names have much sizzle, but none of them are horrible, either. __________________ Free agent baseball fan. Let's go (insert team name here)!

10-31-2011, 11:33 AM	#60
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