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Old 04-19-2019, 07:24 PM   #541
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I'm starting to work on the formula now

If you have the batter's values in the row as shown below (column M=CON, N=GAP, O=HR, P=EYE), the formula is

=if(M11>50, 0.45*(M11-50), -0.9*(50-M11))+if(P11>50, 0.3*(P11-50), -0.14*(50-P11))+if(O11>50, 0.15*(O11-50), -0.09*(50-O11))+if(N11>50, 0.1*(N11-50), -0.15*(50-N11))

I'm not exactly sure what to do with the value once it's calculated though. Also of all the players in my spreadsheet, Ed Brinkman has the lowest wOBA at -14.

In thinking about it, I believe the formula would become more "punishing" (if you will) as you go to higher and higher leagues, since the overall quality of players in the league would become higher and higher. So you'd have to have better and better players to be "average". But I expect the relative ranking of players one to another would remain the same.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:24 PM   #542
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Seattle suffered a damaging blow to their Our League title hopes, dropping a pair of home games to the Ewa Beach Fighting Chickens to finish their season at 10-8. The Parakeets now need only a split of their six-game home-and-home series with the haggard, last place Port Ruppert Mundys, who are in the fight of their lives to avoid relegation. Aina Haina seems poised to repeat as Our League gold champions.
Now Aina Haina needs to win three of out the remaining five vs. Port Ruppert. That is a tall order!
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:32 PM   #543
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Our League I204: Mudville Returns in Triumph

The Muffins, ineligible in 2021 due to a short schedule, won their second straight Our League title, albeit with a year-long sabbatical in between. With only two games remaining, against the Daytona Beach Pickleballers, who themselves were denied a title defense from their lonely outpost in the NC, the Muffins have built an insurmountable lead. All other I204 teams have completed their schedules.


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Old 04-19-2019, 08:34 PM   #544
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:45 PM   #545
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Old 04-19-2019, 10:30 PM   #546
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I don't have a spreadsheet, as I did all the calculations using a software product (SAS). However, I do have the equation that you can put into any spreadsheet (I use it in the spreadsheet where I manage my team)... it assumes that CON is in column G, GAP in column H, POW in column I, and I in column J:

=(0.3*MAX(J27-50;0)+0.15*MAX(I27-50;0)+0.45*MAX(G27-50;0)+0.1*MAX(H27-50))-0.9*MAX(0;50-G27)-0.14*MAX(0;50-J27)-0.09*MAX(0;50-I27)-0.15*MAX(0;50-H27)

This gives a number: A player that had all 50s would have 0, one that had all values equal to 60 (or weighted average of 60) would result in a value of 10, a weighted average of 70 would be 20, etc.

Here is a copy of my ODS spreadsheet with my players (I have put some of the lefty/righty splits in here for platooning options). The column estOFF uses that equation above.

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Batters	 	H	Val	pred	 	CON	GAP	POW	EYE	estOFF
Smoky Burgess	1954	L	86		5555	88	91	32	53.0	20.48
		vR				91	96	32	56.0	23.23
		vL				79	77	31	45.0	13.34
Roger Bresnahan	peak	R	76		475	56	67	16	81	10.64
		vL				57	68	16	82	11.49
Daniel Murphy	2016	L	79		1500	80	88	70	29	17.36
		vL				69	74	59	24	8.66
Phil Cavarreta	1945	L	72		251	80	82	26	63	18.44
		vR				82	86	27	65	20.43
Hanley Ramirez	2009	R	87		2399	79	67	67	42	16.18
		vR				79	65	63	39	14.96
Cecil Travis	1941	L	85			83	80	26	41	14.43
		vR				86	84	27	43	16.55
Steve Sax	1986	R	67		200	82	74	24	47	14.04
		vL				90	87	28	51	20.02
Red Rolfe	1939	L	79		999	70	76	45	57	13.25
		vR				72	79	47	54	13.73
		vL				61	69	38	67	10.87
Dick Groat	1960	R	78		1600	77	60	10	36	7.59
		vR				75	57	11	34	6.20
		vL				85	70	9	42	12.94
Edgar Renteria	2003	R	81		1519	78	71	41	49	13.75
		vL				80	83	48	57	18.72
Augie Galan	1943	S	78		444	60	60	38	72	11.02
		vR				62	63	40	73	12.70
		vL				53	51	32	69	5.53
Curt Flood	1963	R	76		1200	72	76	20	35	7.70
		vL				81	90	23	41	14.26
		vR				70	72	19	33	6.03
Harry Walker	1947	L	76		800	85	82	7	53	15.98
		vL				76	69	6	58	12.04
Babe Herman	1932	L	77		600	69	76	56	54	13.25
		vL				60	74	52	45	6.50

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Old 04-19-2019, 10:32 PM   #547
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whoops, there is an unlabelled column in the spreadsheet that throws everything off by one column when I posted it. The 3 and 4 digit numbers are the amount of PP I paid for the player when I bought him.
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Old 04-19-2019, 10:34 PM   #548
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I don't have a spreadsheet, as I did all the calculations using a software product (SAS). However, I do have the equation that you can put into any spreadsheet (I use it in the spreadsheet where I manage my team)... it assumes that CON is in column G, GAP in column H, POW in column I, and I in column J:

=(0.3*MAX(J27-50;0)+0.15*MAX(I27-50;0)+0.45*MAX(G27-50;0)+0.1*MAX(H27-50))-0.9*MAX(0;50-G27)-0.14*MAX(0;50-J27)-0.09*MAX(0;50-I27)-0.15*MAX(0;50-H27)

This gives a number: A player that had all 50s would have 0, one that is on average a 60 (weighting things appropriately) would result in a value of 10, etc.

Here is a copy of my ODS spreadsheet with my players (I have put some of the lefty/righty splits in here for platooning options). The column estOFF uses that equation above.

Code:
Batters	 	H	Val	pred	 	CON	GAP	POW	EYE	estOFF
Smoky Burgess	1954	L	86		5555	88	91	32	53.0	20.48
		vR				91	96	32	56.0	23.23
		vL				79	77	31	45.0	13.34
Roger Bresnahan	peak	R	76		475	56	67	16	81	10.64
		vL				57	68	16	82	11.49
Daniel Murphy	2016	L	79		1500	80	88	70	29	17.36
		vL				69	74	59	24	8.66
Phil Cavarreta	1945	L	72		251	80	82	26	63	18.44
		vR				82	86	27	65	20.43
Hanley Ramirez	2009	R	87		2399	79	67	67	42	16.18
		vR				79	65	63	39	14.96
Cecil Travis	1941	L	85			83	80	26	41	14.43
		vR				86	84	27	43	16.55
Steve Sax	1986	R	67		200	82	74	24	47	14.04
		vL				90	87	28	51	20.02
Red Rolfe	1939	L	79		999	70	76	45	57	13.25
		vR				72	79	47	54	13.73
		vL				61	69	38	67	10.87
Dick Groat	1960	R	78		1600	77	60	10	36	7.59
		vR				75	57	11	34	6.20
		vL				85	70	9	42	12.94
Edgar Renteria	2003	R	81		1519	78	71	41	49	13.75
		vL				80	83	48	57	18.72
Augie Galan	1943	S	78		444	60	60	38	72	11.02
		vR				62	63	40	73	12.70
		vL				53	51	32	69	5.53
Curt Flood	1963	R	76		1200	72	76	20	35	7.70
		vL				81	90	23	41	14.26
		vR				70	72	19	33	6.03
Harry Walker	1947	L	76		800	85	82	7	53	15.98
		vL				76	69	6	58	12.04
Babe Herman	1932	L	77		600	69	76	56	54	13.25
		vL				60	74	52	45	6.50
Awesome. Which numbers should we look at for comparing players? 20.48 for Burgess?
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Parakeet backs are against the wall. One more loss vs. PR and there goes their title hopes.
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Old 04-19-2019, 10:43 PM   #550
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Yes, that's correct. I believe 20.48 is the overall wOBA calc for Burgess, while 23.23 is his value vR and it's 13.34 vL
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Newly acquired Johan Santana keeps Aina Haina's hopes alive. Now it is up to Tudor to get the job done. One game do or die.
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whoops, noticed a mistake in the equation above, the max on the GAP was missing a zero (it doesn't matter for most players, because most players have a gap of at least 50). At any rate, it should be:

=(0.3*MAX(J20-50;0)+0.15*MAX(I20-50;0)+0.45*MAX(G20-50;0)+0.1*MAX(H20-50;0))-0.9*MAX(0;50-G20)-0.14*MAX(0;50-J20)-0.09*MAX(0;50-I20)-0.15*MAX(0;50-H20)
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Parakeet (Finally) Straighten Up and Fly Right to Repeat in Our League

Aina Haina, provided a cushion by their 50th state brethren Ewa Beach's two-game sweep over rival Seattle, lost all of that padding, before finally winning the last two games of the G313 Our League season, over last place Port Ruppert, to repeat as champions. The Mundys won three of four to firmly pin the Parakeets' wings, but, with no room for further misstep, Aina Haina prevailed.


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'Keets repeat.
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Here are the standings for B251 and S287 heading into the final sims. See previous posts for the pennant race possibilities.
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whoops, noticed a mistake in the equation above, the max on the GAP was missing a zero (it doesn't matter for most players, because most players have a gap of at least 50). At any rate, it should be:

=(0.3*MAX(J20-50;0)+0.15*MAX(I20-50;0)+0.45*MAX(G20-50;0)+0.1*MAX(H20-50;0))-0.9*MAX(0;50-G20)-0.14*MAX(0;50-J20)-0.09*MAX(0;50-I20)-0.15*MAX(0;50-H20)

Nice work. Tom Prappas, my professor for multiple stat courses, would be proud. Your candor emboldens me to release my heretofore proprietary formula for success:


{(Did I see this player on "Kiner's Corner?")(# of times he destroyed the Mets)} + (Do I like him?) + (Can I Afford Him?) - (Is he Pete Rose?) =

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Knucklehead Smith Speaks Out!

When asked for comment about the pennant race, the venerable gent replied:
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Old 04-20-2019, 08:44 AM   #558
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Annandale August

Annandale (1) at Battery Point (3): The Bunnies knocked the Atom Smashers around, taking three of four at Caspers Ballpark.
  • Battery Point scored three in the bottom of the ninth for an exciting 6-5 win in game 1.
  • Game 2 was an easy 4-1 victory for the home team
  • The Atom Smashers pushed a run across the plate in the top of the tenth to win game 3, 5-4. George Vukovich's (.249/.278/.367) pinch-hit single was the key hit.
  • Game 4 was an 8-1 Energizer Bunnies victory. Daniel Murphy (.343/.375/.610) was player of the game, as he went 3-5 with a 2B and a HR, knocking in 4 runs in the process.

Annandale (2) at Green Lake (1): The Atom Smashers took two of three from the Cowboys.
  • Green Lake won game one, 3-1, as Chris Sale (9-9, 4.95 ERA) pitched a strong eight innings.
  • Annandale's Catfish Hunter (10-8, 4.09 ERA) pitched his own good game in the second contest, won by Annandale 8-4.
  • Game 3 was won by the visitors, 3-2.

September/October Games
Green Lake @ Annandale 3x
Green Lake @ Annandale 4x
Annandale @ Green Lake 3x

What a weird schedule.
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Transylvania Leaking Oil

Transylvania has been struggling after the all star break in S268 with a 68-65 record. The starting pitching has been mediocre, at best. So, management decided to make wholesale changes. Out of the rotation are Guidry, Koosman and Sal "The Barber" Maglie. The Impalers brought in Billy Swift, Burleigh Grimes, and Mel Harder. 1987 Tony Gwynn continues to terrorize opponents, batting .372 through 133 games. 1977 Rod Carew is batting .340. Management is going to look to add some power to the lineup at C, 2B, or 3B next season.
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Busy Month in Our League B251 & S287

Took a quick peek at the schedule and saw that B251 and S287 each have 26 Our League games on tap, with only Waffletown in B251 getting a short run. After a brief visit to Shasta for three, they will wait while Stephensville completes its 13-game Our League marathon.


In S287, Battery Point has 7 left, Annandale 10. Of the 15 teams across the two leagues, only Terra Incognita has finished its run.
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