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11-13-2018, 09:05 AM | #1 |
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Go with what you find fun and what makes a good story for my 2 cents. From a practical standpoint I've found paying for older players (with rare exceptions like Ruth or Williams) is a bad investment and you win more by letting them go and trading or drafting a young replacement. Obviously if possible said replacement should be ready to go before you veteran reaches FA.
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11-13-2018, 03:52 PM | #2 |
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Looking at the comparison even differently. When Mike Trout completed his age 25 season he had completed his 6th season with a WAR over 6.0. By the end of his age 25 season Alex Rodriguez had 4 seasons with a WAR over 6.0. Even Babe Ruth, by the end of his age 25 season, had 2 seasons with a WAR over 6.0, and he was a primarily a pitcher for his first few seasons.
After completing his age 25 season, Bryce Harper has had 1 season with a WAR over 6.0, and if you take out that 1 season where he had a WAR of 10.0, his stats pale by comparison. Harper could still get better, and might very well one of the best, but to say he deserves that kind of money based on what he has done up to now is crazy. The real question is will someone, even the Yankees, be stupid enough to pay that much. |
11-13-2018, 04:17 PM | #3 |
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11-13-2018, 04:18 PM | #4 |
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Of course someone will. He doesn't deserve it, but someone will be that stupid. My bet: NOT the Tigers.
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11-14-2018, 01:47 AM | #5 |
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nope, not in real life
in ootp, not unless you have ~400M+ payroll capabilities.. maybe 350+? Greater than ~15% of max payroll on 1 player starts to push it for me. i'm guessing on contract ranges for other elite playrs... harper is a greedy one in ootp, eh? so, assuming you can get fairly similar for 35m, too? paying 15m extra is a stiff ask for so little extra... plus a guy that in real life is inconsitent, imo. he'll be rock-solid in ootp the way he is rated, though. Last edited by NoOne; 11-14-2018 at 01:49 AM. |
11-14-2018, 03:10 AM | #6 |
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I can say to the Harper thing in my real world game that Stanton opts out in 2020, asks for $450m over ten years after hitting 76 HR and 186 RBI for the Yankees. He eventually signs for $165m over five years with the Nationals.
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11-14-2018, 12:48 PM | #7 | |
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11-14-2018, 03:15 PM | #8 |
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No Ball player is worth that. They pay them and then all the seats go to the corporate offices and the average true fan sits home and watches it on TV. This is the World we live in today. Good thing children hate baseball because I feel so badly for young people who have kids who would love to see the Yankees play live but can’t afford to take them. To me that is the shame....
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11-14-2018, 03:32 PM | #9 |
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Fun conversation, wrong forum.
Mods, please move this to the Talk Sports forum. |
11-14-2018, 05:44 PM | #11 |
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He doesn't deserve that one bit, but I still maintain he's worth more than Machado. He's a farrrrrr better hitter than Machado, and although he plays corner outfield, and Machado plays short, Machado's defense at SS is not great. And anyway, hitters with good plate discipline typically age better. Machado can't take a walk to save his life. And when you're giving out these long deals, you have to think about their value at the end of the deal. Power and defense go away, discipline doesn't.
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11-14-2018, 05:57 PM | #12 |
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No, Harper is not worth $500 million because NO player is worth $500 million. However, Harper is likely worth more than any other position player in the game, considering his timing for free agency and track record.
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11-14-2018, 06:42 PM | #13 |
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I rather have Mike Schmidt, forget Harper, not worth the money
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11-14-2018, 06:52 PM | #14 |
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I wonder if there's even a hypothetical situation where a player is worth that much. Maybe peak steroid Barry Bonds?
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11-15-2018, 08:47 AM | #15 |
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Trout would be worth it. Bonds in his peak but at today's dollars would be worth it. Ruth, Mays, Musial, Gehrig, Williams.. It's a short list, and Harper isn't on it.
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11-16-2018, 08:56 AM | #17 |
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Maybe the Marlins will scrape together the cash to buy him
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11-16-2018, 10:35 AM | #18 |
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He went to Toronto in my save!
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11-16-2018, 12:28 PM | #20 |
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one season he was great. that was a few seasons ago, pre- injuries. i just hope SF doesn't do something stupid and try to sign him like they tried on Stanton. They have more pressing needs ... and Harper isn't going to change or save a franchise. he couldn't do it in Washington and i really don't see it happening elsewhere. i like him as a player, just not $300-500 worth.
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