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Old 11-06-2019, 04:23 PM   #41
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There's enough variance for me when I import every year on the day before Opening Day. Lots of HR league wide in the test I just ran. The results aren't completely flat, but they're within a range that suits me just fine. In the test I just ran, runs were up a bit, but not crazy. Another test I ran in a previous test league, runs were down almost as much as they were up in the first season of this test league, and offense in general was down quite a bit. I don't mind variance. I'm just looking to avoid deadball and superball eras, and this method does it for me without scrambling my brains with adjusting modifiers.

The lock stats feature does not work at all. It works for AB, H, 2B, 3B, HR, BB, HBP, K, and BABIP (once I reset it to the RL one). Anything below that line will default to the year you're playing. So, say I'm playing 1901 with 1984 LTMs and strategy settings. The fielders are going to be terrible, and make a ton of errors. Starting pitcher stamina, and relief pitcher stamina will be affected, along with GB%, WP, BK, PB, SF, SH, SBA, SB%, XB%, GDP, LDP, and OF Assists. It comes out quite the hot mess.
do you use different years? as long as you use different years or just not importing the same year every year, it's not the concern i brought up.

depends on number of teams too. my eye is used to 30t / 162g. i don't see stats split by sub-league. but, if you import the same year, it's no different than hitting autocalc on opening day (or whenver you chose to do so). there will be some small variance and larger than what i intimated if a smaller league or looking at 1/2 in a sub-league. some stats vary more than others, too, usually related to frequency.

plus, that's only league-wide stats. regardless, the players will be all over the place as they should in any small sample. afterthought, i guess it really doesn't matter, lol.

i like to see my era, ba and such swing around. a deadball era won't happen as long as you aren't 'near' that point. the ebb and flow (again relative to size of league and # of games) shouldn't swing that far from any ~normal value.

now, a 10-team league.. maybe, you'd have to keep an eye on it?

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importing is simply adjusting the totals and recalculating appropriate modifiers for the players currently existing in your league. you re-insert defensive ltm or change some other stuff? that could be the difference. seed players vs players created via feeders or draft impacts what the import/recalc will produce for modifiers too. they aren't of teh same proportions ratings-wise, so the whole landscape shifts with the fictional players becoming more prevalent.

comparing 1 or 2 years will leave you chasing your own tail. runs can drop drastically in 1 year, even if not often. i've let leagues sim for 100-150 years and can tell you for certain most stats are completely unreliable as far as knowing what they will ebb and flow around in the long-run.

as long as you keep most* settings the same and don't change stuff, you'll never drift too low or too high from that long-term average. volatility will be significantly impacted by size, of course.

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Old 11-07-2019, 10:23 AM   #42
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If I have some extra time some day, I just might run a test to see if there's a difference statistically between importing the same year and auto calc. Time wise, auto calc is one mouse click, while importing the same year requires 4 clicks. Kind of like the ole how many licks to the center of tootsie pop dilemma.

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If I have some extra time some day, I just might run a test to see if there's a difference statistically between importing the same year and auto calc. Time wise, auto calc is one mouse click, while importing the same year requires 4 clicks. Kind of like the ole how many licks to the center of tootsie pop dilemma.
What exactly are the 4 steps? I just want to make sure i'm doing it right if i ever go the importing route.
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What exactly are the 4 steps? I just want to make sure i'm doing it right if i ever go the importing route.
1. Select Year you want

2. Reset Hook Settings for SP and RP in Strategy Settings to how you want them (two clicks)

3. Reset Steal Frequency Setting in Strategy Settings to your taste

Not much really. You've just got to know what to look for.
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If you want, you can also have your strategy settings be tied to the same year as your stats. The essential part is the stats, but you have this option too. Or you can set all your strategy settings exactly as you want them. Up to you.
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When you select autocalc or set the year, I would strongly suggest pushing those buttons at least 2 times and comparing resulting modifiers. For example I have seen the home run modifier being .710 but 1.05 after the 2nd click. In this case I set/click the year again and this time the modifier was about .715 and that is what I went with. Before I started doing this, I would sometimes have stats that seemed a little off.
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When you select autocalc or set the year, I would strongly suggest pushing those buttons at least 2 times and comparing resulting modifiers. For example I have seen the home run modifier being .710 but 1.05 after the 2nd click. In this case I set/click the year again and this time the modifier was about .715 and that is what I went with. Before I started doing this, I would sometimes have stats that seemed a little off.
Sounds like the first selection was about right then no?
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actionjackson, just want to let you know the stats for my IPA are right on the money with the 1950 league stats... it's after the first month of play, but the stats really look good.

Really pleased with the results.
League Batting is .260... it was .261 in '50... league ERA is 3.90... was 4.10 in '50... fielding average is a little high at .978 FA... it was .975 in '50.
DPs is very accurate, too.
So are base on balls and strikeout ratios.
Ratios of doubles, triples and homers are the best I've ever had before.

Like you advised, I just chose the year settings I wanted several days before the beginning of the season... it worked great!

Thank you... you have made my stats more realistic than they have ever been..

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Is it possible to manually add 2019 data to the era_stats files?
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See that "Select Year" box at the top of all the numbers? I use that on the day before Opening Day every year to import stats settings for my league. Works like a charm. I don't use auto-calc. I select the year from 1871 through 2018 that I want to use the day before each Opening Day. I do it the day before Opening Day, because that's the point at which team rosters will be set as much as they can be for the coming season. It's the absolute latest in the offseason that you can do it, so that's when I do it. In my case, the year is 1984, but you may prefer a different offensive environment. Not only does it import the actual numbers from that season, but it also adjusts the LTMs in one fell swoop.

1984: 4.26 R/G, 3.81 ERA, .260/.323/.385/.708, 0.78 HR/9

Judging from your post, you may prefer more offense in your game. My suggestion is to take a season from this list and/or this list that suits your statistical fancy, and select that year the day before Opening Day. I find this method works better than auto-calc, and definitely better than "lock league totals". "Lock league totals" only seems to be concerned with AB, H, 2B, 3B, HR, BB, HBP, K, and BABIP. It doesn't seem to concern itself with anything else like fielding, pitcher stamina, GB% etc, etc, etc. Anything below those nine categories will not be controlled which can really mess up your results.

I also uncheck all the "automatically adjust..." boxes, and just use this method every year. I just discovered that the RL BABIP in 1984 was actually .286, and not .289 like the game seems to think it is. I'm hoping this will help with results that seemed to get "hotter" after OOTP16 for some reason, but we shall see. Any questions? Fire away.
This can also be done on opening day - which is when I like doing it because rosters are down to 25 players (or whatever your preferred setting is). I used to do it the day before also, until I found out you can still do it on opening day.
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This can also be done on opening day - which is when I like doing it because rosters are down to 25 players (or whatever your preferred setting is). I used to do it the day before also, until I found out you can still do it on opening day.
This... As long as you do it before the first game is played you are gold.
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This can also be done on opening day - which is when I like doing it because rosters are down to 25 players (or whatever your preferred setting is). I used to do it the day before also, until I found out you can still do it on opening day.
Yeah this is the critical point. The internal calculation is more accurate. Opening day in the minors is 2-days behind MLB so that gives me some time to set up the minor league rosters.
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This can also be done on opening day - which is when I like doing it because rosters are down to 25 players (or whatever your preferred setting is). I used to do it the day before also, until I found out you can still do it on opening day.
Good to know... thank you.
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Yeah this is the critical point. The internal calculation is more accurate. Opening day in the minors is 2-days behind MLB so that gives me some time to set up the minor league rosters.
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This... As long as you do it before the first game is played you are gold.
Thank you for your advice.

I did it prior to opening day because I wasn't sure it could be done once the season started.

Good to know this.

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This can also be done on opening day - which is when I like doing it because rosters are down to 25 players (or whatever your preferred setting is). I used to do it the day before also, until I found out you can still do it on opening day.
That's interesting. I've always done it the day before opening day because of the warning that it's only available during the preseason or spring training. I'll have to have a look see in one of my test leagues. Thanks.
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This... As long as you do it before the first game is played you are gold.
Thank you very much sir, and Bluenoser too. I hadn't thought of that, but it does make sense. Once the first games are played you'd be out of luck, but on opening day prior to any games being played, it's all good.
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Yeah this is the critical point. The internal calculation is more accurate. Opening day in the minors is 2-days behind MLB so that gives me some time to set up the minor league rosters.
I missed you in my thank yous upthread, so thank you for pointing this out. Makes a lot of sense. Absolutely have to do it before the first games of the season are played though.

EDIT: Your point about the internal calculation being more accurate sounds very reasonable as well. Note to self: Do this on opening day before games are played from now on.
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Is it possible to manually add 2019 data to the era_stats files?
It's possible, but it would be extremely complicated because I'm not sure how you would get accurate numbers for stats like Stolen Base Attempts per Times Reaching First Base. It also differentiates between GDP, and DP, which could be complicated. Then there's DP per Times Reaching First Base. Also, the OF putouts and OF assists rates. In addition, there's Pickoffs per Times Reaching First Base, and Component ERA (abbreviated as ERC to distinguish it from Catcher ERA, which is CERA). So, possible yes, but also difficult.
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actionjackson, just want to let you know the stats for my IPA are right on the money with the 1950 league stats... it's after the first month of play, but the stats really look good.

Really pleased with the results.
League Batting is .260... it was .261 in '50... league ERA is 3.90... was 4.10 in '50... fielding average is a little high at .978 FA... it was .975 in '50.
DPs is very accurate, too.
So are base on balls and strikeout ratios.
Ratios of doubles, triples and homers are the best I've ever had before.

Like you advised, I just chose the year settings I wanted several days before the beginning of the season... it worked great!

Thank you... you have made my stats more realistic than they have ever been..
I'm really glad to hear it's working for you EC. I'm also glad that these fine gentlemen (Bluenoser, Sweed, and RchW) let us know that this can be done on Opening Day prior to the playing of any games, which would be even better, because as Bluenoser pointed out, the 25-man rosters would be set. It would probably throw a monkey wrench into the Preseason Predictions, but who cares? Predictions are almost always wrong in baseball. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.

You're only about one sixth of the way through the season, so give things time to shake out over the course of the full season in terms of league ERA and Fld%. The other thing is that there will be some variance as you move through your seasons, possibly due to the constantly changing talent levels of the hitters and the pitchers in your league(s). This is probably a good thing, as it won't swing as wildly as it would without using the system, but it also won't be the same year after year.
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