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08-18-2017, 05:41 PM | #1 |
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Sansterre's Historical MLB SuperTournament
So. I like overelaborate and ambitious projects. I was thinking about a Greatest of All-Time Tournament. Not to determine the best team ever; OOTP is imperfect and the worse team wins sometimes so it would be naive to think that the best team would win. But I think a well-designed tournament would certainly suggest a best team (or six), and more to the point it would serve as an educational tour through baseball's history. And I do love history.
The Premise: In the PBL twelve teams make the playoffs out of thirty-two each year. This makes for a ratio of 3:8. When trying to determine my initial cluster of teams I didn't want to be to tight, because I didn't want to risk cutting an underrated historical team. So I figured that the 3:8 ratio is worth preserving. It's going to let in a lot of teams that are only good, but not great, but I don't see that as a downside. I don't really want my great teams at risk for elimination in the first round. When I talk about rounds, I'm going to be playing in rounds of seasons. Not single-elimination or anything, or even best of seven. I want each round of the tournament to be a long season where the teams get plenty of time to prove themselves. The Execution: I decided that 1901 would be as early as I would go. Before that the game just gets wacky. Did you know that between 1901 and 2016 (inclusive) there have been 2426 team seasons? 3/8ths of those is 909, so the first round of the SuperTournament will have no less than 900 teams. The first round will be (loosely) 10 different leagues of 90 teams each. The top 3/8ths of these 900 teams will win entry into one of the four 84 team leagues that make up the next round. The top 3/8ths of those teams will advance into the three leagues of 42 quarter-final round. The top 3/8ths of those teams will advance into the two - 24 team league semi-final round. And the top 3/8ths of those teams will advance to the Finals, made up of the top 18 teams of the last 116 years. Selection: I grabbed every good team since 1901 (determined by a formula loosely based on SRS) and sorted them, giving the top 900 teams spots. I seeded the ten leagues appropriately. There are no exceptions for fluky teams. In 1987 the Minnesota Twins went 85-77, giving them the fifth best record of the fourteen AL teams that year, but they won a playoff spot since the top four teams were all in the same division. Further, their 85-77 record was a little lucky, since their pythag was actually 79-83. This combined to give them an SRS of -0.1, which is fair since they generally look average or a little below. However, through some combination of great pitching and luck the Twins won the World Series that year. But they are not in my tournament because there's no reason to think they were actually in the top 3/8ths of the league. Season Length: 240. I know this seems long, but bigger sample size is better for determining the best. Selection for Subsequent Rounds: Each team's record is recorded in a sheet. For every playoff series they win (top 3/8ths make the playoffs) one win is added to their regular season record. The top 3/8ths of all regular season records (between all leagues) advance, and record in the prior round determines seeding. So winning the playoffs in your league is nice, and helps, but the 240-game regular season is what really matters. DH: The DH teams will be organized into DH-only leagues for purposes of competition. There's no way to evaluate the quality of DH teams without actually allowing them to use a DH. This does mean that the SuperTournament Final will be something like twelve non-DH teams in one league and six DH teams in the other, or something like that. There are more DH teams than you might think, as once interleague play starts the AL generally has 7 out of every 10 top teams. (Before then you can't really know). Injuries & Suspensions: Off. I know it's unrealistic, and it also compromises things a bit with players that were great but oft-injured. But OOTP builds its historical teams around their rosters and roles for that season. If only one player played SS that year for a team, OOTP will only give one player a rating at that position, and if that guy gets injured the team is unrealistically screwed. Playing with injuries seemed like a worse skew than playing without. Other Misc Settings: Development off. Trading off. Finances off. Everything that would move players between rosters off. Chemistry off, Morale off, Coaching off. Stat Era: Historical OOTP simulations are designed around picking players from their era and moving them to a new one. So I had to figure out which era to hold this tournament in. I grabbed the R/G, HR/G, K/G, BB/G and SB/G from every season involved. The I calculated the averages and gave every season ratings on how many standard deviations it was in each category from the historical average. The winner was 1977; home runs but not too many, 3:2 K/BB ratio, 4.5 R/G, pretty mellow overall. Strategies and Roster Settings: I set the default to four-man rotations. Five-man rotations have certainly become normal but there are a lot of historical teams that simply didn't have a fifth option. It seems a more reasonable skew to take a fifth starter away from 5-man rotations than demand that 4-man rotations come up with a starter that their roster simply doesn't have. All strategies (running, shifts, pitcher stamina, use relievers, etc) are set to 'normal'. That's everything I can think of about the setup itself. If there is curiosity and I have left anything out please let me know. |
08-18-2017, 05:42 PM | #2 |
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Team Composition:
Because this is the sort of thing that I was curious about myself. The breakdown of the 900 teams is as follows: Angels: 16 teams / 56 years Arizona: 3 teams / 19 years Astros: 17 teams / 55 years Athletics: 43 teams / 116 years (includes both Oakland and Philadelphia) Braves: 30 teams / 116 years (includes Boston, Milwaukee and Atlanta) Brewers: 12 teams / 48 years Cardinals: 47 teams / 116 years Cleveland: 42 teams / 116 years Colorado: 5 teams / 24 years Cubs: 36 teams / 116 years Detroit: 49 teams / 116 years Dodgers: 52 teams / 116 years (includes Brooklyn and LA) Giants: 63 teams / 116 years (includes NY and SF) Marlins: 2 teams / 24 years Mets: 16 teams / 55 years Orioles: 46 teams / 116 years (includes Stl Browns and Milwaukee Brewers v.1) Padres: 5 teams / 48 years Phillies: 26 teams / 116 years Pirates: 53 teams / 116 years Rangers: 18 teams / 56 years (includes brief Washington Senators stint) Red Sox: 57 teams / 116 years (includes Boston Americans) Reds: 40 teams / 116 years Royals: 11 teams / 48 years Seattle: 10 teams / 40 years Tampa Bay: 7 teams / 19 years Toronto: 21 teams / 40 years Twins: 33 teams / 117 years (includes Washington Senators) Washington: 13 teams / 48 years (includes Expos) White Sox: 44 teams / 116 years Yankees: 82 teams / 114 years (includes Highlanders) Highest Overall: 1. Yankees, 82 2. Giants, 63 3. Red Sox, 57 4. Pirates, 53 5. Dodgers, 52 Highest Ratio: 1. Yankees, 1 every 1.39 years 2. Giants, 1 every 1.84 years 3. Toronto, 1 every 1.9 years 4. Red Sox, 1 every 2.04 years 5. Pirates, 1 every 2.19 years Lowest Ratio: 1. Marlins, 1 every 12 years 2. Padres, 1 every 9.6 years 3. Arizona, 1 every 6.3 years 4. Colorado, 1 every 4.8 years 5. Phillies, 1 every 4.5 years |
08-18-2017, 05:45 PM | #3 |
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Round 1 - League 1
For dodgy reasons, mostly relating to trying to get 254 DH teams reasonably evenly divided, League 1-1 contains 44 DH teams (in one league) and 48 non-DH teams. They are (in chronological Order): DH League 1973 Red Sox 1975 Orioles 1975 Red Sox 1975 Yankees 1976 Royals 1977 Yankees 1978 Red Sox 1978 Rangers 1979 Red Sox 1981 Yankees 1982 Orioles 1982 Royals 1982 White Sox 1982 Tigers 1983 Orioles 1985 Yankees 1988 Brewers 1988 Royals 1992 Toronto 1995 Yankees 1997 Yankees 1998 Rangers 2001 Yankees 2003 Seattle 2005 Angels 2005 Yankees 2005 Red Sox 2007 Tigers 2008 Tampa Bay 2008 White Sox 2008 Twins 2010 Rangers 2011 Tampa Bay 2012 Orioles 2013 Red Sox 2013 Rangers 2013 Cleveland 2013 Tampa Bay 2015 Toronto 2015 Astros 2015 Royals 2015 Red Sox 2015 Angels 2015 Twins Original League 1902 Pirates 1903 Cleveland 1906 Cleveland 1907 Athletics 1908 Tigers 1908 Cleveland 1914 Giants 1916 Giants 1918 Giants 1922 Yankees 1923 Reds 1923 Tigers 1925 Reds 1935 Cubs 1939 Cardinals 1942 Brooklyn 1953 Cleveland 1954 Cleveland 1955 Cleveland 1955 Red Sox 1956 Brooklyn 1956 Cleveland 1958 Yankees 1958 Cleveland 1958 Tigers 1961 Yankees 1961 Orioles 1963 Yankees 1964 Orioles 1964 Reds 1964 Brewers 1964 Twins 1967 Red Sox 1967 Giants 1972 Reds 1972 Athletics 1980 Reds 1980 Cardinals 1987 Cardinals 1987 Giants 1989 Cubs 1991 Pirates 1997 Dodgers 2001 Arizona 2004 Dodgers 2004 Giants 2004 Phillies 2011 Brewers There are obviously some filler teams in there (I mean, they're good, but have no shot at winning this thing). Teams to Watch: DH League: 2015 Toronto - not to be lame, since they're a recent team, but that season was super dominating for a perpetually loaded AL 1997 Yankees - Honestly, all the Yankees teams from 1997 to 2005 are pretty good 2013 Red Sox - the Red Sox had some really good teams in the last 15 years 1985 Yankees - Are there decades the Yankees don't have great teams in? (the aughts. everything else is yankified) Non-DH League: 1902 Pirates - This team completely dominated its league. In 1903 they lost half of their four starters, but for 1902 Pittsburgh was dominant. 1958, 61 Yankees - I don't know which I like more. Actually, 61. 1991 Pirates - I don't think they're quite all-time dominant, but that was a damned good team. 1972 Reds - Big Red! Big Red! |
08-18-2017, 05:46 PM | #4 |
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80-Game Update: DH League Update: Top 14: 1. 2013 Boston Red Sox: 53-27 (+3 Pythag) 2. 1997 New York Yankees: 51-29 (0) 3. 1998 Texas Rangers: 50-30 (+1) 4. 1992 Toronto Blue Jays: 50-30 (+2) 5. 2001 New York Yankees: 48-32 (-1) 6. 2015 Toronto Blue Jays: 47-33 (-1) 7. 2013 Texas Rangers: 46-34 (+1) 8. 1982 Chicago White Sox: 46-34 (-2) 9. 1976 Kansas City Royals: 45-35 (+2) 10. 1978 Boston Red Sox: 44-36 (+4) 11. 2005 New York Yankees: 44-36 (-3) 12. 1979 Boston Red Sox: 44-36 (0) 13. 1988 Kansas City Royals: 43-37 (0) 14. 1978 Texas Rangers: 43-37 (+2) Thoughts: It's interesting how close to 500 the lower teams are. Out of 44 teams you'd think that the 16th best team would have a better record. It's clear that the top of the pack are good enough that they're driving the records of everyone else down. I'm not surprised that the Yankees have two teams in the top 5 (pythag-wise, three teams in the top 7). I'm not surprised that the Jays have those two teams in the top 6; those are two of the strongest teams Toronto has to offer. I'm definitely surprised that Texas has two teams in the top 7. Fluke Watch: 1998 Texas Rangers: I just don't trust them. They've thrown up a WAR that matches up with their record, or thereabouts. But they do lead the entire DH league in BABIP, even though their ZR is only above average. Also, Royce Clayton is batting 278, and that crap ain't gonna continue. That said, even if they go 500 the rest of the way that would give them a 130-110 record which would still likely get them through to the next round. Top Offense (league average is 4.9 R/G): 2013 Red Sox: 5.8 R/G, wRC+ 125 (all their batters but one are above league average, led by David Ortiz, Salty, Stephen Drew and Mike Napoli) 2015 Blue Jays: 5.7 R/G, wRC+ 131 (Josh Donaldson's batting 362/432/546, Chris Colabello and Danny Valencia crushing the ball) 2001 Yankees: 5.6 R/G, wRC+ 113 (13th in OBP, 18th in SLG, 3rd in R/G? Fluke.) 1992 Blue Jays: 5.6 R/G, wRC+ 118 (Olerud, Winfield, Joe Carter and Roberto Alomar all raking) 1998 Rangers: 5.6 R/G, wRC+ 118 (Juan Gonzalez, Will Clark and Rusty Greer are all hitting above 300, slugging above 500) Top Defense: 1997 Yankees: 3.7 R/G, +8.2 ZR, 4.19 FIP (overperforming a little, but David Cone and Andy Pettitte are pitching very well) 1982 White Sox: 4.1 R/G, -6.4 ZR, 4.13 FIP (across the board great pitching, but HRA are pretty unsustainably low) Original League Update :Top 16: 1. 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates: 50-30 (-3 Pythag) 2. 1991 Pittsburgh Pirates: 50-30 (+1) 3. 1961 New York Yankees: 49-31 (-2) 4. 1964 Cincinnati Reds: 49-31 (+3) 5. 1955 Cleveland Indians: 48-32 (+3) 6. 1923 Detroit Tigers: 47-33 (+1) 7. 1987 San Francisco Giants: 46-34 (-1) 8. 1955 Boston Red Sox: 45-35 (0) 9. 1908 Detroit Tigers: 44-36 (+5) 10. 1916 New York Giants: 44-36 (+3) 11. 1964 Minnesota Twins: 44-36 (+3) 12. 1958 Detroit Tigers: 43-37 (+2) 13. 1954 Cleveland Indians: 43-37 (-3) 14. 1939 St. Louis Cardinals: 43-37 (+4) 15. 1907 Philadelphia Athletics: 43-37 (-2) 16. 1942 Brooklyn Dodgers: 43-37 (0) Thoughts: The pythagorean skew is pretty extreme. '54 Cleveland has the 13th best record, but has tied for the 4th best pythagorean record. I'm a little surprised that the '91 Pirates are competitive with the '02 version and the '61 Yankees. We'll see if that keeps up. Top Offense (league average is 4.5 R/G): 1955 Red Sox: 5.4 R/G, 119 wRC+ (Ted Williams is batting 319/449/564) 1906 Naps: 5.2 R/G, 108 wRC+ (Nap Lajoie, Elmer Flick, Bill Bradley, Terry Turner) 1955 Indians: 5.2 R/G, 110 wRC+ (Larry Doby is his usual excellent self, Al Smith is slugging 614 . . . that's most of it) 1964 Braves: 5.1 R/G, 116 wRC+ (Denis Menke is overperforming, but Rico Carty and Hank Aaron are doing just fine) 1908 Athletics: 5.1 R/G, 105 wRC+ (Topsy Hartsel, Harry Davis, Socks Seybold - I've always loved Topsy Hartsel, not just for the name) Top Defense: 1902 Pirates: 3.4 R/G, -13 ZR (by far the best FIP in the league) 1961 Yankees: 3.5 R/G, +17 ZR (Whitey Ford leads a solid rotation with great defense behind it) 1991 Pirates: 3.5 R/G, +13 ZR (Zane Smith and Doug Drabek) 1987 Giants: 3.6 R/G, -2 ZR (Kelly Downs, Rick Reuschel and Dave Dravecky are great at keeping the ball in the park) Well, that's only the first third of the season but we're already starting to see some separation, about 7-12 games between the top teams and the bubble teams. We'll see how things look at 160 games. Out of curiosity, what sort of things would you find interesting to read about in such posts? Individual leaders? Streaks? Just let me know; as long as it's not too time consuming I'd be happy to post it. If there are any teams from the original list of 92 posted above that you want updates on that's easily done. |
08-23-2017, 07:19 PM | #5 |
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160-Game Update:
DH League Update: Top 16: 1. 2015 Toronto Blue Jays: 100-60 (+2 pythag) 2. 1997 New York Yankees: 98-62 (0) 3. 2013 Boston Red Sox: 98-62 (-1) 4. 2001 New York Yankees: 97-63 (+1) 5. 2015 Houston Astros: 96-64 (+4) 6. 1992 Toronto Blue Jays: 94-66 (+3) 7. 2003 Seattle Mariners: 92-68 (+3) 8. 1998 Texas Rangers: 91-69 (+4) 9. 1978 Texas Rangers: 91-69 (+3) 10. 2005 New York Yankees: 90-70 (+3) 11. 1978 Boston Red Sox: 88-72 (+3) 12. 1982 Chicago White Sox: 87-73 (-2) 13. 2010 Texas Rangers: 86-74 (+1) 14. 1976 Kansas City Royals: 86-74 (+5) 15. 1975 Boston Red Sox: 86-74 (0) 16. 2015 Kansas City Royals: 85-75 (+5) Almost Certainly Eliminated 1981 New York Yankees 2005 Los Angeles Angels 2008 Minnesota Twins 1973 Boston Red Sox 2015 Los Angeles Angels 1983 Baltimore Orioles 1975 Baltimore Orioles 2012 Baltimore Orioles 1982 Detroit Tigers 2015 Boston Red Sox 1982 Baltimore Orioles 1988 Milwaukee Brewers Original League Update: Top 18: 1. 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates: 105-55 (+3 Pythag) 2. 1964 Cincinnati Reds: 97-63 (+4) 3. 1991 Pittsburgh Pirates: 94-66 (+2) 4. 1955 Cleveland Indians: 87-73 (+7) 5. 1987 San Francisco Giants: 90-70 (-3) 6. 1954 Cleveland Indians: 89-71 (-4) 7. 1903 Cleveland Naps: 89-71 (+4) 8. 1916 New York Giants: 86-74 (+4) 9. 1989 Chicago Cubs: 86-74 (+6) 10. 1961 New York Yankees: 86-74 (-6) 11. 1980 Cincinnati Reds: 85-75 (+2) 12. 1907 Philadelphia Athletics: 85-75 (0) 13. 1955 Boston Red Sox: 84-76 (-1) 14. 1923 Detroit Tigers: 84-76 (+1) 15. 2001 Arizona Diamondbacks: 83-77 (+1) 16. 1908 Cleveland Naps: 83-77 (+5) 17. 1958 Detroit Tigers: 82-78 (+3) 18. 1987 St. Louis Cardinals: 82-78 (+1) Almost Certainly Eliminated: 1967 Boston Red Sox 1923 Cincinnati Reds 1997 Los Angeles Dodgers 1922 New York Yankees |
08-24-2017, 12:57 AM | #6 |
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You used 44 White Sox teams? I see 2008 & 1982, where is 2005, 1983, 1993 etc?
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08-24-2017, 12:27 PM | #7 |
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Apologies for my lack of clarity. The nine hundred teams that qualified for the tournament are divided between ten leagues. The listed teams constitute one of the ten leagues. There are nine more leagues that contain the remainder of your white Sox teams. These teams are competing for the right to move on to the next round.
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08-26-2017, 07:41 AM | #8 |
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League 1-1 Pennant Chase Update DH League Percentages listed are chance of making the top 16 teams, which are both the playoffs and the likely indicator of advancing to the next round of the Tournament. 1. 2015 Toronto Blue Jays, 134-77 (+2) - 100% 2. 2013 Boston Red Sox, 133-78 (+4) - 100% 3. 1997 New York Yankees, 132-79 (+3) - 100% 4. 2003 Seattle Mariners, 123-88 (+6) - 100% 5. 1992 Toronto Blue Jays, 123-88 (+1) - 100% 6. 2001 New York Yankees, 123-88 (-1) - 100% 7. 2015 Houston Astros, 121-90 (+3) - 100% 8. 1998 Texas Rangers, 120-91 (+3) - 100% 9. 1978 Boston Red Sox, 120-91 (+4) - 100% 10. 2005 New York Yankees, 119-92 (+5) - 100% 11. 1978 Texas Rangers, 118-93 (+5) - 100% 12. 1988 Kansas City Royals, 114-97 (0) - 95.2% 13. 2010 Texas Rangers, 114-97 (-2) - 96.5% 14. 1982 Chicago White Sox, 113-98 (-2) - 88.8% 15. 2015 Kansas City Royals, 112-99 (+4) - 79.1% 16. 1977 New York Yankees, 110-101 (+1) - 54.2% 17. 2013 Tampa Bay Rays, 110-101 (-1) - 51.6% 18. 1975 Boston Red Sox, 107-104 (-3) - 11.6% 19. 1979 Boston Red Sox, 107-104 (-2) - 12% Note that despite the fact that there are 29 games remaining, the odds calculator only sees 19 teams with a shot at the final 16 teams (the Original League, in contrast, has 25 teams with a shot at the last 16 spots). What happened? The 2013 Cleveland Indians are only a game behind the '79 Red Sox, but have a six-game worse pythagorean record. The 2013 Texas Rangers are two games behind the Sox, but have an eight-game worse pythagorean record. And so on. Original League Percentages listed are chance of making the top 16 teams, which are both the playoffs and the likely indicator of advancing to the next round of the Tournament, though generally a league of this size will expect to send 18 teams to the next round. 1. 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates, 136-75 (+1) - 100% 2. 1964 Cincinnati Reds, 126-85 (+8) - 100% 3. 1991 Pittsburgh Pirates, 122-89 (-2) - 100% 4. 1955 Cleveland Indians, 119-92 (+6) - 100% 5. 1987 San Francisco Giants, 117-94 (0) - 99.6% 6. 1954 Cleveland Indians, 116-95 (-4) - 99.6% 7. 2004 San Francisco Giants, 115-96 (+3) - 98% 8. 1903 Cleveland Naps, 115-96 (+5) - 94% 9. 1958 New York Yankees, 115-96 (+4) - 97% 10. 1987 St. Louis Cardinals, 114-97 (+2) - 93.3% 11. 1916 New York Giants, 113-98 (+4) - 84.6% 12. 1961 New York Yankees, 112-99 (-7) - 83.8% 13. 1964 Baltimore Orioles, 112-99 (+5) - 75.8% 14. 1923 Detroit Tigers, 110-100 (+5) - 65.1% 15. 1955 Boston Red Sox, 110-101 (0) - 50.8% 16. 1963 New York Yankees, 110-101 (-2) - 46.8% 17. 2001 Arizona Diamondbacks, 110-101 (+1) - 43.5% 18. 1989 Chicago Cubs, 109-102 (+3) - 30.9% 19. 1980 Cincinnati Reds, 108-103 (+1) - 18.9% 20. 1907 Philadelphia Athletics, 108-103 (-2) - 18.9% 21. 1958 Detroit Tigers, 108-103 (+4) - 20.7% 22. 1967 San Francisco Giants, 107-104 (-5) - 12.8% 23. 1939 St. Louis Cardinals, 107-104 (0) - 11.8% 24. 1908 Cleveland Naps, 107-104 (+8) - 10.1% 25. 1908 Detroit Tigers, 107-104 (0) - 14.1% What a genuinely freakish lead the 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates have. They have a ten-game lead in normal record, and an 11-game lead in pythag. Yeah, it's 211 games in, but still. These teams are all, at minimum, pretty good. Based on this one season, if I were to pick one team of these 92 to make the final round, the 1902 Pirates would be it. |
08-26-2017, 09:47 AM | #9 |
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Where's 2016 Cubs and Indians?
Might also do what if Teams so let's say the Royals still had like Shields,Holland,Davis,Cueto,Zobrist and so on from 2014 and 2015 would they had made Playoffs last year or better yet today meaning when it all in Game.
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08-28-2017, 09:45 PM | #11 |
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Final Standings League 1-1
DH League (Playoff Teams Only): 1. 1997 New York Yankees, 152-88 (+1) 2. 2013 Boston Red Sox, 149-91 (+5) 3. 2015 Toronto Blue Jays, 148-92 (+1) 4. 2001 New York Yankees, 141-99 (-1) 5. 2015 Houston Astros, 141-99 (+5) 6. 2005 New York Yankees, 139-101 (+6) 7. 1998 Texas Rangers, 138-102 (+4) 8. 1992 Toronto Blue Jays, 136-104 (-2) 9. 2003 Seattle Mariners, 136-104 (+6) 10. 1978 Boston Red Sox, 135-105 (+4) 11. 1982 Chicago White Sox, 134-106 (+1) 12. 1978 Texas Rangers, 132-108 (+4) 13. 1988 Kansas City Royals, 130-110 (0) 14. 2015 Kansas City Royals, 129-111 (+4) 15. 2010 Texas Rangers, 129-111 (-3) 16. 1977 New York Yankees, 128-112 (+1) Original League (Playoff Teams Only): 1. 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates, 156-84 (+3) 2. 1964 Cincinnati Reds, 142-98 (+8) 3. 1991 Pittsburgh Pirates, 139-101 (-4) 4. 1955 Cleveland Indians, 136-104 (+6) 5. 1903 Cleveland Naps, 135-105 (+6) 6. 2004 San Francisco Giants, 133-107 (+2) 7. 1954 Cleveland Indians, 132-108 (-1) 8. 1964 Baltimore Orioles, 131-109 (+7) 9. 1987 San Francisco Giants, 131-109 (+2) 10. 1916 New York Giants, 130-110 (+7) 11. 1987 St. Louis Cardinals, 128-112 (+1) 12. 1989 Chicago Cubs, 127-113 (+5) 13. 1923 Detroit Tigers, 127-113 (+4) 14. 1958 New York Yankees, 126-114 (+5) 15. 1963 New York Yankees, 125-115 (-5) 16. 1907 Philadelphia Athletics, 125-115 (-2) Playoffs: Qualifying Round: 1997 Yankees defeat 1977 Yankees 4-2 1992 Blue Jays defeat 2003 Mariners 4-2 2015 Blue Jays defeat 2015 Royals 4-0 2001 Yankees defeat 1988 Royals 4-2 2015 Astros defeat 1978 Rangers 4-2 1982 White Sox defeat 2005 Yankees 4-3 1998 Rangers defeat 1978 Red Sox 4-1 2013 Red Sox defeat 2010 Rangers 4-2 1907 Athletics defeat 1902 Pirates 4-1 1964 Orioles defeat 1987 Giants 4-1 1958 Yankees defeat 1991 Pirates 4-2 1955 Indians defeat 1923 Tigers 4-2 1989 Cubs defeat 1903 Naps 4-3 2004 Giants defeat 1987 Cardinals 4-3 1916 Giants defeat 1954 Indians 4-3 1964 Reds defeat 1963 Yankees 4-2 Sweet 16: 1997 Yankees defeat 1992 Blue Jays 4-3 2001 Yankees defeat 2015 Blue Jays 4-1 1982 White Sox defeat 2015 Astros 4-0 1998 Rangers defeat 2013 Red Sox 4-2 1964 Orioles defeat 1907 Athletics 4-3 1955 Indians defeat 1958 Yankees 4-1 1989 Cubs defeat 2004 Giants 4-3 1964 Reds defeat 1918 Giants 4-0 Quarterfinals: 1997 Yankees defeat 2001 Yankees 4-2 1998 Rangers defeat 1982 White Sox 4-3 1964 Orioles defeat 1955 Indians 4-2 1964 Reds defeat 1989 Cubs 4-2 Pennant Series: 1997 Yankees defeat 1998 Rangers 4-3 1984 Orioles defeat 1964 Reds 4-3 World Series: 1997 Yankees defeat 1964 Orioles 4-3 Final Rankings (so far) for purposes of advancing to the next round: So, before I post these. Teams may compete with the rest of their leagues for wins, but all 900 teams are compared with each other for purposes of advancing, so we won't really know who's advancing until everyone's played, though things should be pretty clear. Teams are credited 1 point per win in the regular season, and receive an addition 1.5 points per playoff series won. Teams not only qualify for the next round with these points but also are seeded into the next round based upon them. Points don't carry over into the next round. Without further adieu: 1997 Yankees: 159.5 1902 Pirates: 156 2013 Red Sox: 151.5 2015 Blue Jays: 149.5 1964 Reds: 146.5 2001 Yankees: 145 2015 Astros: 142.5 1998 Rangers: 142.5 2005 Yankees: 139 1991 Pirates: 139 1955 Indians: 139 1992 Blue Jays: 137.5 1982 White Sox: 137 1964 Orioles: 137 2003 Mariners: 136 1978 Red Sox: 135 1903 Naps: 135 2004 Giants: 134.5 1978 Rangers: 132 1954 Indians: 132 1916 Giants: 131.5 1987 Giants: 131 1988 Royals: 130 1989 Cubs: 130 2015 Royals: 129 2010 Rangers: 129 1977 Yankees: 128 1987 Cardinals: 128 1958 Yankees: 127.5 1923 Tigers: 127 1907 Athletics: 126.5 1963 Yankees: 125 2004 Dodgers: 124 1961 Yankees: 124 ______________________ <- Theoretical Cutoff 1972 Athletics: 124 2013 Rays: 123 1975 Red Sox: 122 1967 Giants: 122 2004 Phillies: 122 1955 Red Sox: 122 1980 Reds: 122 2001 Diamondbacks: 122 1979 Red Sox: 121 1908 Tigers: 121 Final Thoughts on League 1-1: Well. A hefty mix of randomness and not. The 1902 Pirates getting knocked off first round was clearly a surprise. Any time you get 32 teams in a tournament you get a lot of randomness. But I'd like to talk about a few teams. The 1997 New York Yankees: This team is not known for being particularly dominating. After all, they lost in the ALDS; how good could they be? The answer is, quite good. They finished 96-66, with a pythag of 100-62 and an SRS of 1.2. Their batters combined for a mediocre (for teams in this tournament) 23.7 WAR, led by Bernie Williams, Tino Martinez and Derek Jeter. But their pitching was fantastic, combining for 32.8 WAR and led by Andy Pettitte (8.4 WAR) and David Cone (6.8 WAR). Long story short, this was a damned good team, a worthy winner to League 1-1. It's a shame that all the talent on this team never worked out in real life. JK. The 1998 Yankees are probably the scariest DH team coming down the pipe. Stay tuned! The 1964 Orioles and 1964 Reds: On the surface these teams look flukey, and they are a bit. A superficial glance at them reveals that neither made the playoffs in real life. So what led them to doing so well here? Well first off, luck plays a role of course. But these teams were better than they looked. Cincinnati (92-70, 0) missed the playoffs by 1 game (giving them the second best record in the NL) but had a 4-game better pythag than the Cardinals. Baltimore finished 97-65, finishing a game behind the White Sox who finished a game behind the Yankees. Each of these teams are not historically great but was better than we might remember them, not unlike Cleveland from last year. The 1961 Yankees: Anyone who read this carefully might have been surprised to find the '61 Yankees out of the playoffs, with a serious shot at not making the next round. I know that I was. A big part of this is luck. They had the 18th best record, but only four teams had a better pythag. They were clearly at least middle of the pack for the playoff teams here. But don't get it twisted. The '61 Yankees were a great team, but they probably aren't as great as you think they are. Yes, 109-53 is a great record (+6 makes them quite lucky, but 103-59 is still quite impressive). Their lineup was worth 36.2 WAR, with 63% of it coming from Micky Mantle, Roger Maris and Elston Howard. On one hand, those three are great (seriously, Mantle was a monster) but the lineup after that is not particularly strong. The real weak spot is the pitching staff: 12.9 WAR between them. Their 4-man rotation is 3.8 WAR (Whitey Ford), 3.6 WAR (Bill Stafford), 2.2 WAR (Ralph Terry) and 1.0 WAR (Rollie Sheldon). Don't hear me say they weren't great; they're certainly better than the '64 teams that ended up in the pennant series. But don't fall for thinking that these guys are in the same vein as the '27 Yankees. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're not terribly close. 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08-28-2017, 09:54 PM | #12 |
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Now announcing, the lineup for League 1-2!
The teams are grouped by league and chronologically (this is another DH / original league). The info in each team's brief writeup is the team's year and name, their record, pythag deviation (higher means luckier), how their season ended, how many team WAR they put up (adjusted to 162 games), and their stars (top 2 players or everyone above 4.9 WAR or so). League 1-2 DH League 1974 New York Yankees, 89-73 (+3 pythag), missed playoffs by 2 games, 40.1 WAR, Elliott Maddox (5.4, OF), Craig Nettles (4.9, 3B) 1975 Oakland Athletics, 98-64 (+1), lost to Boston in ALCS 3-0, 49.2 WAR, Reggie Jackson (6.7, OF), Bill North (5.7, OF), Gene Tenace (5.2, C), Claudell Washington (4.9, OF) 1977 Kansas City Royals, 102-60 (+4), lost to Yankees in ALCS 3-2, 51.3 WAR, George Brett (7.6, 3B), Al Cowens (5.3, OF), Dennis Leonard (5.6, SP) 1978 Kansas City Royals, 92-70 (-1), lost to Yankees in ALCS 3-1, 43.5 WAR, Amos Otis (7.4, CF), George Brett (5.4, 3B) 1979 California Angels, 88-74 (-2), lost to Orioles in ALCS 3-1, 40.9 WAR, Bobby Grich (5.9, 2B), Brian Downing (5.6, C) 1979 Milwaukee Brewers, 95-66 (+6), missed playoffs by 8 games, 48.2 WAR, Paul Molitor (5.6, 2B), Sixto Lezcano (5.6, OF), Gorman Thomas (4.8, CF), Mike Caldwell (4.8, SP) 1979 New York Yankees, 89-71 (+3), missed playoffs by 21 games, 36.8 WAR, Willie Randolph (5.2, 2B), Ron Guidry (6.5, SP), Tommy John (5.5, SP) 1980 Detroit Tigers, 84-78 (-4), missed playoffs by 19 games, 36.8 WAR, Alan Trammell (4.8, SS) 1981 Texas Rangers, 57-48 (-3), missed playoffs by 5 games, 39.6 WAR*, Buddy Bell (9.3*, 3B), Jim Sundberg (5.8*, C) 1981 Oakland Athletics, 64-45 (+3), lost to Yankees in ALCS 3-0, 41.3 WAR*, Rickey Henderson (9.8*, OF), Dwayne Murphy (6.5*, OF), Tony Armas (6.2*, OF), Steve McCatty (6.8, SP) 1983 Chicago White Sox, 99-63 (+3), lost to Orioles in ALCS 3-1, 44.5 WAR, Carlton Fisk (4.3, C), Richard Dotson (5.1, SP) 1984 Detroit Tigers, 104-58 (+5), won World Series over Padres 4-1, 51.8 WAR, Alan Trammell (6.7, SS), Chet Lemon (6.2, CF), Kirk Gibson (5.1, OF), Willie Hernandez (4.8, SP) 1984 Boston Red Sox, 86-76 (+1), missed playoffs by 22 games, 36.8 WAR, Wade Boggs (6.3, 3B), Dwight Evans (5.4, OF) 1985 Toronto Blue Jays, 99-62 (0), lost to Kansas City in ALCS 4-3, 51.6 WAR, Jesse Barfield (6.8, OF), Dave Stieb (6.9, SP), Jimmy Key (5.1, SP), Doyle Alexander (4.9, SP) 1985 Kansas City Royals, 91-71 (+5), won World Series over St. Louis 4-3, 40.8 WAR, George Brett (8.3, 3B), Bret Saberhagen (7.3, SP), Charlie Leibrandt (6.7, SP) 1988 Detroit Tigers, 88-74 (+2), missed playoffs by 1 game, 37.9 WAR, Alan Trammell (6.0, SS) 1989 Kansas City Royals, 92-70 (+5), missed playoffs by 7 games, 43.4 WAR, Bret Saberhagen (9.7, SP), Mark Gubicza (6.3, SP), Jeff Montgomery (4.6, CL) 1991 Minnesota Twins, 95-67 (+1), won World Series over Atlanta 4-3, 50.9 WAR, Shane Mack (5.0, OF), Kevin Tapani (6.8, SP) 1993 Toronto Blue Jays, 95-67 (+4), won World Series over Philly 4-2, 47.9 WAR, John Olerud (7.7, 1B), Devon White (6.2, CF), Roberto Alomar (6.1, 2B), Paul Molitor (5.7, DH) 1994 Baltimore Orioles, 63-49 (-2), no playoffs, would have missed by 5 games, 48.7* WAR, Rafael Palmiero (5.8*, 1B), Cal Ripken (5.8*, SS), Mike Mussina (7.8*, SP) 1995 California Angels, 78-67 (-4), missed playoffs by 1 game >.<, 46.5* WAR, Tim Salmon (7.4*, OF), Jim Edmonds (6.3*, CF) 1997 Baltimore Orioles, 98-64 (+4), lost to Indians in ALCS 4-2, 50.5 WAR, Mike Mussina (5.5, SP), Jimmy Key (4.6, SP) 1998 Boston Red Sox, 92-70 (-2), lost to Indians in ALDS 3-1, 48.5 WAR, Nomar Garciaparra (7.1, SS), Mo Vaughn (5.6, 1B), Pedro Martinez (7.2, SP) 1998 Cleveland Indians, 89-73 (+2), lost to Yankees in ALCS 4-2, 45.5 WAR, Kenny Lofton (5.9, CF), Manny Ramirez (5.2, OF) 1999 Cleveland Indians, 97-65 (+4), lost to Red Sox in ALDS 3-2, 48.2 WAR, Roberto Alomar (7.4, 2B), Manny Ramirez (7.3, OF), Omar Vizquel (6.0, SS), Kenny Lofton (5.6, CF) 1999 Texas Rangers, 95-67 (+7), lost to Yankees in ALDS 3-0, 46.4 WAR, Ivan Rodriguez (6.4, C), Rafael Palmiero (5.2, DH) 2003 Boston Red Sox, 95-67 (+1), lost to Yankees in ALC 4-3, 54.8 WAR, Nomar Garciaparra (6.1, SS), Bill Mueller (5.6, 3B), Manny Ramirez (5.4, OF), Trot Nixon (5.1, OF), Pedro Martinez (8.0, SP) 2005 Cleveland Indians, 93-69 (-3), missed playoffs by 2 games, 51.9 WAR, Grady Sizemore (6.6, CF), Travis Hafner (5.4, DH), Victor Martinez (5.2, C), Jhonny Peralta (5.1, SS) 2005 Chicago White Sox, 99-63 (+8), won World Series over Astros 4-0, 46.3 WAR, Mark Buehrle (4.8, SP), Jon Garland (4.6, SP) 2007 Los Angeles Angels, 94-68 (+4), lost in ALDS to Red Sox 3-0, 41.8 WAR, John Lackey (6.3, SP), Kelvin Escobar (4.9, SP) 2008 Toronto Blue Jays, 86-76 (-7), missed playoffs by 9 games, 46.8 WAR, Alex Rios (5.9, OF), Roy Halladay (6.2, SP) 2008 New York Yankees, 89-73 (+2), missed playoffs by 6 games, 43.8 WAR, Alex Rodriguez (6.8, 3B), Mike Mussina (5.2, SP) 2008 Cleveland Indians, 81-81 (-4), missed playoffs by 8 games, 38.8 WAR, Grady Sizemore (5.9, CF), Cliff Lee (6.9, SP) 2009 Boston Red Sox, 95-67 (+2), lost in ALDS to Angels 3-0, 51.6 WAR, Kevin Youkilis (6.6, 1B), Dustin Pedroia (5.6, 2B), Jason Bay (5.2, OF), Jon Lester (6.3, SP), Josh Beckett (5.1, SP) 2009 Toronto Blue Jays, 75-87 (-9), missed the playoffs by a million games (jk, 20), 40.7 WAR, Aaron Hill (5.8, 2B), Marco Scutaro (5.4, SS), Roy Halladay (6.9, SP) 2010 Tampa Bay Rays, 96-66 (0), lost in ALDS to Rangers 3-2, 49.8 WAR, Evan Longoria (8.1, 3B), Carl Crawford (7.0, OF), David Price (4.8, SP) 2011 Los Angeles Angels, 86-76 (+1), missed playoffs by 5 games, 43.9 WAR, Peter Bourjos (5.1, CF), Jared Weaver (7.0, SP) 2012 New York Yankees, 95-67 (0), lost in ALCS to Tigers 4-0, 51.4 WAR, Robinson Cano (8.5, 2B), Hiroki Kuroda (5.5, SP) 2012 Detroit Tigers, 88-74 (+1), lost in World Series to Giants 4-0, 41.4 WAR, Miguel Cabrera (7.2, 3B), Austin Jackson (5.4, CF), Justin Verlander (7.8, SP) 2013 Oakland Athletics, 96-66 (0), lost in ALDS to Tigers 3-2, 41.1 WAR, Josh Donaldson (7.7, 3B), Bartolo Colon (5.0, SP) 2014 Oakland Athletics, 88-74 (-11), lost Wild Card to Royals 1-0, 44.4 WAR, Josh Donaldson (7.3, 3B) 2016 Seattle Mariners, 86-76 (-1), missed playoffs by 3 games, 38.8 WAR, Robinson Cano (7.3, 2B), Kyle Seager (6.9, 3B) Original League 1901 Pittsburgh Pirates, 90-49 (-2), won National League, 50.3* WAR, Honus Wagner (8.3, SS), Fred Clarke (5.8, OF), Jack Chesbro (6.4, SP), Deacon Phillippe (5.5, SP), Jesse Tannehill (5.2, SP) 1902 Philadelphia Athletics, 83-53 (+3), won American League, 41.6 WAR*, Lave Cross (5.2, 3B), Socks Seybold (5.1, OF), Rube Waddell (11.6, SP), Eddie Plank (6.9, SP) 1904 Chicago Cubs, 93-60 (+6), missed playoffs by 13 games, 37 WAR*, Frank Chance (6.2, 1B), Jake Weimer (6.5, SP) 1905 Chicago Cubs, 92-61 (-12), missed playoffs by 13 games, 48.6 WAR*, Frank Chance (5.9, 1B), Ed Reulbach (8.8, SP), Bob Wicker (5.0, SP) 1905 Philadelphia Phillies, 83-69 (-4), missed playoffs by 21.5 games, 35.2 WAR*, John Titus (5.8, OF), Roy Thomas (5.7, OF), Sherry Magee (5.3, OF), Tully Sparks (5.6, SP) 1906 New York Giants, 96-56 (+6), missed playoffs by 20 games, 42 WAR*, Art Devlin (8.5, 3B), Roger Bresnahan (4.9, 1B) 1907 Pittsburgh Pirates, 91-63 (-1), missed playoffs by 17 games, 39.6 WAR*, Honus Wagner (9.5, SS), Tommy Leach (5.7, OF), Fred Clarke (5.5, OF) 1907 New York Giants, 82-71 (-3), missed playoffs by 25.5 games, 37.6 WAR*, Art Devlin (4.8, 3B), Christy Mathewson (8.0, SP) 1916 Boston Braves, 89-63 (+1), missed playoffs by 4 games, 36.2 WAR*, Rabbit Maranville (5.6, SS), Dick Rudolph (4.3, SP) 1917 Chicago White Sox, 100-54 (-1), won World Series over Giants 4-2, 53* WAR, Shoeless Joe Jackson (6.1, OF), Eddie Collins (5.3, 2B), Eddie Cicotte (12, SP) 1917 Philadelphia Phillies, 87-65 (+1), missed playoffs by 10 games, 38.4* WAR, Gavvy Cravath (4.7, OF), Pete Alexander (9.9, SP) 1919 New York Yankees, 80-59 (-2), missed playoffs by 11.5 games, 42.7* WAR, Roger Peckinpaugh (7.3, SS), Del Pratt (6.2, 2B) 1920 New York Giants, 86-68 (-7), missed playoffs by 7 games, 38.3* WAR, Ross Youngs (6.7, OF), Dave Bancroft (6.0, SS) 1920 Cincinnati Reds, 82-71 (-3), missed playoffs by 10.5 games, 35.9* WAR, Edd Roush (6.2, CF), Dutch Ruether (4.8, SP) 1923 New York Giants, 95-58 (+3), lost World Series to Yankees 4-2, 40.6* WAR, Frankie Frisch (7.1, 2B), Dave Bancroft (3.9, SS) 1923 Pittsburgh Pirates, 87-67 (+1), missed playoffs by 8.5 games, 36.4* WAR, Max Carey (5.3, CF), Pie Traynor (4.7, 3B) 1924 New York Giants, 93-60 (-3), lost World Series to Senators 4-3, 47.1* WAR, Frankie Frisch (7.9, 2B), Ross Youngs (6.2, OF), High Pockets Kelly (5.1, 1B) 1926 Chicago Cubs, 82-72 (-4), missed playoffs by 7 games, 41.7* WAR, Hack Wilson (5.5, CF), Charlie Root (5.5, SP) 1930 St. Louis Cardinals, 92-62 (-2), lost World Series to Athletics 4-2, 41.3* WAR, Frankie Frisch (4.9, 2B), Burleigh Grimes (4.6, SP) 1931 St. Louis Cardinals, 101-53 (+4), won World Series over Athletics 4-3, 42.6* WAR, Chick Hafey (4.5, OF), Bill Hallahan (4.4, SP) 1944 St. Louis Cardinals, 105-49 (-2), won World Series over Browns 4-2, 61.5* WAR, Stan Musial (9.3, OF), Johnny Hopp (5.8, CF), Marty Marion (4.9, SS), Mort Cooper (5.6, SP) 1945 Chicago Cubs, 98-56 (-1), lost World Series to Tigers 4-3, 49.0* WAR, Stan Hack (6.3, 3B), Phil Cavarretta (6.3, 1B), Claude Passeau (5.3, SP), Hank Wyse (5.3, SP) 1954 Milwaukee Braves, 89-65 (-1), missed playoffs by 8 games, 50.0* WAR, Eddie Mathews (8.1, 3B), Warren Spahn (5.4, SP), Lew Burdette (5.0, SP) 1954 New York Yankees, 103-51 (0), missed playoffs by 8 games, 47.7* WAR, Mickey Mantle (7.3, CF), Yogi Berra (5.7, C) 1955 Cincinnati Reds, 75-79 (-9), missed playoffs by 23.5 games, 42.5* WAR, Wally Post (5.6, OF), Ted Kluszewski (5.6, 1B) 1958 Pittsburgh Pirates, 84-70 (+1), missed playoffs by 8 games, 40.6* WAR, Bill Mazeroski (5.2, 2B), Roberto Clemente (4.6, OF) 1960 Pittsburgh Pirates, 95-59 (+3), won World Series over Yankees 4-3, 51.1* WAR, Dick Groat (6.5, SS), Don Hoak (5.7, 3B), Bob Friend (5.9, SP) 1961 San Francisco Giants, 85-69 (-4), missed playoffs by 8 games, 44* WAR, Willie Mays (9.2, CF), Orlando Cepeda (6.0, 1B) 1963 Minnesota Twins, 91-70 (-7), missed playoffs by 13 games, 48.8* WAR, Bob Allison (7.4, OF), Jimmie Hall (5.4, CF), Camilo Pascual (6.2, SP) 1963 St. Louis Cardinals, 93-69 (-1), missed playoffs by 6 games, 49.2 WAR, Dick Groat (7.1, SS), Bill White (6.0, 1B), Curt Flood (5.8, CF), Ken Boyer (5.2, 3B), Curt Simmons (4.9, SP) 1964 Philadelphia Phillies, 92-70 (+4), missed playoffs by 1 game, 39.9 WAR, Dick Allen (8.8, 3B), Johnny Callison (6.1, OF), Chris Short (6.2, SP), Jim Bunning (5.4, SP) 1970 Chicago Cubs, 84-78 (-10), missed playoffs by 5 games, 40.6 WAR, Billie Williams (6.6, OF), Jim Hickman (5.0, 1B), Fergie Jenkins (7.3, SP), Ken Holtzman (6.4, SP), Bill Hands (5.2, SP) 1971 Los Angeles Dodgers, 89-73 (-1), missed playoffs by 1 game, 38.9 WAR, Dick Allen (5.4, 3B), Willie Davis (5.2, CF), 1977 Cincinnati Reds, 88-74 (0), missed playoffs by 10 games, 38.9 WAR, George Foster (8.4, OF), Joe Morgan (5.8, 2B), Johnny Bench (5.0, C), Tom Seaver (5.6, SP) 1981 Cincinnati Reds, 66-42 (+9), missed playoffs by . . . hard to explain. 1981 was dumb, 36.3* WAR, Dave Concepcion (5.6, SS), George Foster (5.6, OF), Tom Seaver (6.0, SP) 1988 New York Mets, 100-60 (0), lost in NLCS to Dodgers 4-3, 56.2 WAR, Darryl Strawberry (5.4, OF), David Cone (5.6, SP) 1990 New York Mets, 91-71 (-7), missed playoffs by 4 games, 43.4 WAR, Darryl Strawberry (6.3, OF), Frank Viola (6.4, SP) 1996 San Diego Padres, 91-71 (+1), lost in NLDS to Cardinals 3-0, 40.2 WAR, Ken Caminiti (7.6, 3B), Steve Finley (5.7, CF) 1997 New York Mets, 88-74 (0), missed playoffs by 4 games, 31.3 WAR, Edgardo Alfonzo (6.2, 3B), Rick Reed (4.4, SP) 2005 Atlanta Braves, 90-72 (-1), lost in NLDS to Astros 3-1, 40.4 WAR, Andruw Jones (6.7, CF), Rafael Furcal (6.4, SS), John Smoltz (4.9, SP) 2007 Atlanta Braves, 84-78 (-4), missed the playoffs by 5 games, 39.7 WAR, Chipper Jones (7.6, 3B), Tim Hudson (4.7, SP) 2010 Cincinnati Reds, 91-71 (-1), lost in NLDS to Phillies 3-1, 39.7 WAR, Joey Votto (6.9, 1B), Jay Bruce (4.7, OF) An asterix (*) by a team's WAR total indicates that the team didn't play 162 games, so their WAR (and that of their players) is adjusted to a 162-game season for comparison. You may notice that earlier teams have a disproportionate tendency to either have missed the playoffs and to have missed the playoffs by a lot. Just remember that, once upon a time, only 1 in 8 teams made the playoffs, compared to 3/8 today. Top Teams (sorted by team WAR): DH League: 54.8: 2003 Boston Red Sox 51.9: 2005 Cleveland Indians 51.8: 1984 Detroit Tigers 51.6: 1977 Kansas City Royals 51.6: 1985 Toronto Blue Jays 51.6: 2009 Boston Red Sox 51.4: 2012 New York Yankees 50.9: 1991 Minnesota Twins 50.5: 1997 Baltimore Orioles 49.8: 2010 Tampa Bay Rays 49.2: 1975 Oakland Athletics 48.7: 1994 Baltimore Orioles 48.5: 1998 Boston Red Sox 48.2: 1979 Milwaukee Brewers 48.2: 1999 Cleveland Indians 47.9: 1993 Toronto Blue Jays Original League: 61.5: 1944 St. Louis Cardinals 56.2: 1988 New York Mets 53.0: 1917 Chicago White Sox 51.1: 1960 Pittsburgh Pirates 50.3: 1901 Pittsburgh Pirates 50.0: 1954 Milwaukee Braves 49.2: 1963 St. Louis Cardinals 49.0: 1945 Chicago Cubs 48.8: 1963 Minnesota Twins 48.6: 1905 Chicago Cubs 47.7: 1954 New York Yankees Should be an exciting group. No super-teams (I don't really know how OOTP compensates for the WW2-weakened rosters that the '44 Cardinals competed against). But a very nice mix of excellent teams, including some I'm very excited about watching, like Eddie Collins' 1917 White Sox, or the 1988 Mets, or the 2013 Red Sox. This is a notably Yankee-light league. |
08-30-2017, 07:57 PM | #13 |
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I like your Tournament, it is a great idea. I am looking forward to the rest of the games. How does one go about setting up Tournaments like this? Is there any reference that I can use to learn how to create something like this? Thank you for your time, Karl
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09-07-2017, 07:41 AM | #15 |
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League 1-2 Results
Original League Standings: 1. 1901 Pittsburgh Pirates, 152-88 (+1) 2. 1944 St. Louis Cardinals, 142-98 (-2) 3. 1977 Cincinnati Reds, 136-104 (-7) 4. 1988 New York Mets, 136-104 (+6) 5. 1970 Chicago Cubs, 136-104 (+6) 6. 2007 Atlanta Braves, 133-107 (-1) 7. 1990 New York Mets, 133-107 (+3) 8. 1907 New York Giants, 130-110 (+6) 9. 1931 St. Louis Cardinals, 129-111 (-2) 10. 1902 Philadelphia Athletics, 126-114 (0) 11. 1964 Philadelphia Phillies, 125-115 (+3) 12. 1960 Pittsburgh Pirates, 125-115 (-3) 13. 1923 Pittsburgh Pirates, 125-115 (+1) 14. 1917 Chicago White Sox, 124-116 (-2) 15. 1930 St. Louis Cardinals, 124-116 (-3) 16. 2010 Cincinnati Reds, 123-117 (+4) DH League Standings: 1. 1993 Toronto Blue Jays, 152-88 (+5) 2. 2003 Boston Red Sox, 148-92 (+2) 3. 2008 New York Yankees, 146-94 (+6) 4. 2009 Boston Red Sox, 137-103 (+5) 5. 1991 Minnesota Twins, 134-106 (+2) 6. 1989 Kansas City Royals, 134-106 (-2) 7. 1984 Boston Red Sox, 134-106 (0) 8. 2008 Cleveland Indians, 133-107 (+8) 9. 2012 Detroit Tigers, 133-107 (-1) 10. 1984 Detroit Tigers, 133-107 (-3) 11. 1999 Cleveland Indians, 132-108 (-1) 12. 2007 Los Angeles Angels, 131-109 (-2) 13. 2005 Cleveland Indians, 128-112 (-6) 14. 1998 Cleveland Indians, 128-112 (0) 15. 1985 Kansas City Royals, 127-113 (+4) 16. 2012 New York Yankees, 126-114 (0) Playoffs: Qualifying Round: 2010 Reds (16) defeat 1901 Pirates (1) four games to zero 1931 Cardinals (9) defeat 1907 Giants (8) four games to two 1977 Reds (3) defeat 1917 White Sox (14) four games to zero 1923 Pirates (13) defeat 1988 Mets (4) four games to three 1960 Pirates (12) defeat 1970 Cubs (5) four games to zero 1964 Phillies (11) defeat 2007 Braves (6) four games to one 1990 Mets (7) defeat 1902 Athletics (10) four games to two 1930 Cardinals (15) defeat 1944 Cardinals (2) four games to zero 1993 Blue Jays (1) defeat 2012 Yankees (16) four games to three 2012 Tigers (9) defeat 2008 Indians (8) four games to two 2008 Yankees (3) defeat 1998 Indians (14) four games to two 2005 Indians (13) defeat 2009 Red Sox (4) four games to two 1991 Twins (5) defeat 2007 Angels (12) four games to three 1999 Indians (11) defeat 1989 Royals (6) four games to two 1984 Tigers (10) defeat 1984 Red Sox (7) four games to zero 2003 Red Sox (2) defeat 1985 Royals (15) four games to three Sweet 16: 1931 Cardinals (9) defeat 2001 Reds (16) four games to zero 1977 Reds (3) defeat 1923 Pirates (13) four games to one 1960 Pirates (12) defeat 1964 Phillies (11) four games to zero 1990 Mets (7) defeat 1930 Cardinals (15) four games to three 1993 Blue Jays (1) defeat 2012 Tigers (9) four games to one 2008 Yankees (3) defeat 2005 Indians (13) four games to zero 1999 Indians (11) defeat 1991 Twins (5) four games to zero 2003 Red Sox (2) defeat 1984 Tigers (10) four games to one Elite 8: 1931 Cardinals (9) defeat 1977 Reds (3) four games to three 1960 Pirates (12) defeat 1990 Mets (7) four games to three 2008 Yankees (3) defeat 1993 Blue Jays (1) four games to three 2003 Red Sox (2) defeat 1999 Indians (11) four games to three Pennant Series: 1931 Cardinals (9) defeat 1960 Pirates (12) four games to three 2008 Yankees (3) defeat 2003 Red Sox (2) four games to zero World Series: 1931 Cardinals (9) defeat 2008 Yankees (3) four games to three |
09-07-2017, 07:43 AM | #16 |
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League 1-3 Team Roster:
League 1-3 has no DH teams; it's all non-DH teams. Original League 1 1901 Brooklyn Superbas 1903 Pittsburgh Pirates 1903 New York Giants 1905 Chicago White Sox 1916 Detroit Tigers 1918 Washington Senators 1919 Chicago White Sox 1926 Philadelphia Athletics 1929 Philadelphia Athletics 1931 Philadelphia Athletics 1932 Washington Senators 1935 Detroit Tigers 1935 New York Yankees 1938 Cleveland Indians 1941 Brooklyn Dodgers 1943 Pittsburgh Pirates 1944 Detroit Tigers 1945 New York Yankees 1946 Detroit Tigers 1948 Brooklyn Dodgers 1951 Brooklyn Dodgers 1951 Cleveland Indians 1952 St. Louis Cardinals 1955 Detroit Tigers 1956 Cincinnati Reds 1960 Brooklyn Dodgers 1961 Cincinnati Reds 1962 Minnesota Twins 1970 Cincinnati Reds 1971 Oakland Athletics 1971 Detroit Tigers 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates 1977 Los Angeles Dodgers 1978 Philadelphia Phillies 1981 Montreal Expos 1982 St. Louis Cardinals 1986 New York Mets 1990 Cincinnati Reds 1993 San Francisco Giants 1995 New York Mets 1998 Houston Astros 1999 New York Mets 2000 St. Louis Cardinals 2001 St. Louis Cardinals 2001 Colorado Rockies 2003 San Francisco Giants 2009 Colorado Rockies 2010 Atlanta Braves 2012 Atlanta Braves 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Original League 2 1901 Chicago White Sox 1910 Philadelphia Athletics 1910 Chicago Cubs 1912 Boston Red Sox 1912 Pittsburgh Pirates 1914 Washington Senators 1926 Cleveland Indians 1928 Philadelphia Athletics 1929 Chicago Cubs 1932 New York Yankees 1936 New York Giants 1937 New York Giants 1937 Detroit Tigers 1938 New York Giants 1939 Cincinnati Reds 1939 Detroit Tigers 1943 Washington Senators 1944 Boston Red Sox 1945 Pittsburgh Pirates 1945 St. Louis Browns 1946 New York Yankees 1947 Brooklyn Dodgers 1948 New York Giants 1951 New York Yankees 1952 New York Giants 1953 Chicago White Sox 1955 Brooklyn Dodgers 1956 Milwaukee Braves 1957 Brooklyn Dodgers 1960 New York Yankees 1965 Cincinnati Reds 1965 Pittsburgh Pirates 1966 Atlanta Braves 1967 Detroit Tigers 1968 San Francisco Giants 1974 Pittsburgh Pirates 1975 Cincinnati Reds 1976 Philadelphia Phillies 1979 Montreal Expos 1981 St. Louis Cardinals 1982 Los Angeles Dodgers 1982 Atlanta Braves 1985 Los Angeles Dodgers 1986 San Francisco Giants 1994 Montreal Expos 1999 San Francisco Giants 2001 Los Angeles Dodgers 2009 Atlanta Braves 2010 San Francisco Giants 2010 San Diego Padres |
09-07-2017, 07:44 AM | #17 |
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League 1-3 Results
Original League 1: 1. 1998 Houston Astros, 154-86 (+1) 2. 1990 Cincinnati Reds, 152-88 (-1) 3. 1986 New York Mets, 143-97 (+6) 4. 1946 Detroit Tigers, 138-102 (+5) 5. 1903 Pittsburgh Pirates, 135-105 (-5) 6. 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates, 135-105 (-3) 7. 1999 New York Mets, 133-107 (+7) 8. 1951 Brooklyn Dodgers, 132-108 (0) 9. 1926 Philadelphia Athletics, 131-109 (+8) 10. 2009 Colorado Rockies, 131-109 (-2) 11. 1952 St. Louis Cardinals, 131-109 (+5) 12. 2000 St. Louis Cardinals, 130-110 (+1) 13. 1978 Philadelphia Phillies, 130-110 (+1) 14. 1977 Los Angeles Dodgers, 126-114 (-5) 15. 2012 Atlanta Braves, 126-114 (+7) 16. 1993 San Francisco Giants, 126-114 (+6) Original League 2: 1. 1965 Cincinnati Reds, 153-87 (+5) 2. 1975 Cincinnati Reds, 147-93 (-8) 3. 2009 Atlanta Braves, 140-100 (+6) 4. 1967 Detroit Tigers, 140-100 (-7) 5. 1985 Los Angeles Dodgers, 135-105 (+2) 6. 1982 Los Angeles Dodgers, 135-105 (+2) 7. 1968 San Francisco Giants, 135-105 (+1) 8. 1939 Detroit Tigers, 135-105 (0) 9. 1956 Milwaukee Braves, 132-108 (+7) 10. 1910 Philadelphia Athletics, 132-108 (-6) 11. 1951 New York Yankees, 132-108 (-5) 12. 1976 Philadelphia Phillies, 131-109 (+2) 13. 1974 Pittsburgh Pirates, 130-110 (+3) 14. 1910 Chicago Cubs, 129-111 (+2) 15. 1932 New York Yankees, 129-111 (-1) 16. 1999 San Francisco Giants, 125-115 (-6) Playoffs: Qualifying Round: 1998 Houston Astros (1) defeat 1993 San Francisco Giants (16) four games to zero 1926 Philadelphia Athletics (9) defeat 1951 Brooklyn Dodgers (8) four games to two 1977 Los Angeles Dodgers (14) defeat 1986 New York Mets (3) four games to one 1978 Philadelphia Phillies (13) defeat 1946 Detroit Tigers (4) four games to zero 1903 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) defeat 2000 St. Louis Cardinals (12) four games to two 1952 St. Louis Cardinals (11) defeat 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates (6) four games to three 2009 Colorado Rockies (10) defeat 1999 New York Mets (7) four games to zero 2012 Atlanta Braves (15) defeat 1990 Cincinnati Reds (2) four games to two 1999 San Francisco Giants (16) defeat 1965 Cincinnati Reds (1) four games to three 1965 Milwaukee Braves (9) defeat 1939 Detroit Tigers (8) four games to one 1910 Chicago Cubs (14) defeat 2009 Atlanta Braves (3) four games to two 1974 Pittsburgh Pirates (13) defeat 1967 Detroit Tigers (4) four games to zero 1976 Philadelphia Phillies (12) defeat 1985 Los Angeles Dodgers (5) four games to zero 1982 Los Angeles Dodgers (6) defeat 1951 New York Yankees (11) four games to two 1968 San Francisco Giants (7) defeat 1910 Philadelphia Athletics (10) four games to three 1932 New York Yankees (15) defeat 1975 Cincinnati Reds (2) four games to three Sweet Sixteen: 1998 Houston Astros (1) defeat 1926 Philadelphia Athletics (9) four games to one 1978 Philadelphia Phillies (13) defeat 1977 Los Angeles Dodgers (14) four games to two 1903 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) defeat 1952 St. Louis Cardinals (11) four games to zero 2009 Colorado Rockies (10) defeat 2012 Atlanta Braves (15) four games to three 1956 Milwaukee Braves (9) defeat 1999 San Francisco Giants (16) four games to three 1974 Pittsburgh Pirates (13) defeat 1910 Chicago Cubs (14) four games to two 1982 Los Angeles Dodgers (6) defeat 1976 Philadelphia Phillies (12) four games to two 1968 San Francisco Giants (7) defeat 1932 New York Yankees (15) four games to two Elite Eight: 1998 Houston Astros (1) defeat 1978 Philadelphia Phillies (13) four games to three 1903 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) defeat 2009 Colorado Rockies (10) four games to two 1956 Milwaukee Braves (9) defeat 1974 Pittsburgh Pirates (13) four games to two 1968 San Francisco Giants (7) defeat 1982 Los Angeles Dodgers (6) four games to zero Pennant Series: 1998 Houston Astros (1) defeat 1903 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) four games to one 1968 San Francisco Giants (7) defeat 1956 Milwaukee Braves (9) four games to zero World Series: 1998 Houston Astros (1) defeat 1968 San Francisco Giants (7) four games to two |
09-07-2017, 07:45 AM | #18 |
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League 1-4 Team Roster:
DH League: 1976 New York Yankees 1977 Texas Rangers 1978 Detroit Tigers 1980 Baltimore Orioles 1980 New York Yankees 1980 Milwaukee Brewers 1980 Kansas City Royals 1981 Chicago White Sox 1981 Boston Red Sox 1981 Milwaukee Brewers 1983 Detroit Tigers 1983 Milwaukee Brewers 1984 Toronto Blue Jays 1985 Baltimore Orioles 1986 Texas Rangers 1989 Milwaukee Brewers 1993 Chicago White Sox 1993 New York Yankees 1994 Cleveland Indians 1995 Seattle Mariners 1995 Baltimore Orioles 1996 Texas Rangers 1999 New York Yankees 2000 Seattle Mariners 2001 Oakland Athletics 2002 Oakland Athletics 2004 Boston Red Sox 2005 Oakland Athletics 2005 Toronto Blue Jays 2005 Texas Rangers 2005 Minnesota Twins 2006 Oakland Athletics 2007 New York Yankees 2007 Cleveland Indians 2009 Texas Rangers 2010 New York Yankees 2011 New York Yankees 2012 Chicago White Sox 2014 Seattle Mariners 2015 New York Yankees 2015 Texas Rangers 2016 Boston Red Sox Original League: 1902 Cincinnati Reds 1903 Cincinnati Reds 1904 Pittsburgh Pirates 1911 Philadelphia Athletics 1913 Philadelphia Athletics 1915 Boston Red Sox 1916 Philadelphia Phillies 1922 New York Giants 1924 Cincinnati Reds 1925 Philadelphia Athletics 1926 Cincinnati Reds 1927 Pittsburgh Pirates 1934 St. Louis Cardinals 1942 St. Louis Cardinals 1942 New York Giants 1947 New York Yankees 1948 St. Louis Cardinals 1951 New York Giants 1951 Chicago White Sox 1953 New York Yankees 1955 Milwaukee Braves 1961 Detroit Tigers 1962 New York Giants 1968 Detroit Tigers 1970 Minnesota Twins 1976 New York Mets 1977 Pittsburgh Pirates 1980 Montreal Expos 1982 Montreal Expos 1983 Montreal Expos 1984 Chicago Cubs 1991 Atlanta Braves 1996 Los Angeles Dodgers 1997 Florida Marlins 2001 Houston Astros 2003 Florida Marlins 2007 San Diego Padres 2008 Chicago Cubs 2008 Philadelphia Phillies 2010 St. Louis Cardinals 2012 Washington Nationals 2015 St. Louis Cardinals |
09-07-2017, 07:46 AM | #19 |
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League 1-4 Results:
DH League Standings: 1. 1980 New York Yankees, 152-88 (+4) 2. 2001 Oakland Athletics, 145-95 (+3) 3. 2004 Boston Red Sox, 143-97 (-4) 4. 1999 New York Yankees, 142-98 (+6) 5. 2016 Boston Red Sox, 137-103 (+3) 6. 2007 New York Yankees, 136-104 (-7) 7. 2002 Oakland Athletics, 136-104 (0) 8. 1995 Seattle Mariners, 136-104 (+9) 9. 1996 Texas Rangers, 135-105 (+1) 10. 1984 Toronto Blue Jays, 135-105 (+9) 11. 1977 Texas Rangers, 135-105 (+5) 12. 1983 Milwaukee Brewers, 133-107 (+3) 13. 2011 New York Yankees, 132-108 (+2) 14. 2007 Cleveland Indians, 131-109 (0) 15. 2012 Chicago White Sox, 127-113 (+6) 16. 1983 Chicago White Sox, 126-114 (+4) The 2014 Seattle Mariners, 2010 Yankees and the 1993 Yankees all made 125 wins, and so will likely advance to the next round of the tournament, even if they missed the playoffs. Original League Standings: 1. 2003 Florida Marlins, 138-102 (+3) 2. 1991 Atlanta Braves, 138-102 (-4) 3. 1984 Chicago Cubs, 137-103 (-3) 4. 1924 Cincinnati Reds, 137-103 (-2) 5. 1911 Philadelphia Athletics, 137-103 (+1) 6. 1980 Montreal Expos, 135-105 (+2) 7. 1982 Montreal Expos, 134-106 (+1) 8. 1953 New York Yankees, 133-107 (0) 9. 1961 Detroit Tigers, 133-107 (-3) 10. 1902 Cincinnati Reds, 132-108 (-1) 11. 2008 Philadelphia Phillies, 130-110 (+1) 12. 2007 San Diego Padres, 129-111 (0) 13. 2015 St. Louis Cardinals, 128-112 (+3) 14. 1915 Boston Red Sox, 126-114 (+6) 15. 2012 Washington Nationals, 126-114 (-13) 16. 1947 New York Yankees, 126-114 (+8) The 1913 Philadelphia Athletics made 125 wins and will probably be moving on. Playoffs: Qualifying Round: 1993 Chicago White Sox (16) upset the 1980 New York Yankees (1) four games to three 1995 Seattle Mariners (8) defeat the 1996 Texas Rangers (9) four games to two 2011 New York Yankees (13) upset the 1999 New York Yankees (4) four games to two 2016 Boston Red Sox (5) defeat the 1983 Milwaukee Brewers (12) four games to two 2004 Boston Red Sox (3) defeat the 2007 Cleveland Indians (14) four games to two 2007 New York Yankees (6) defeat the 1997 Texas Rangers (11) four games to three 1984 Toronto Blue Jays (10) upset the 2002 Oakland Athletics (7) four games to zero 2001 Oakland Athletics (2) defeat the 2012 Chicago White Sox (15) four games to three 1947 New York Yankees (16) upset the 2003 Florida Marlins (1) four games to one 1953 New York Yankees (8) defeat the 1961 Detroit Tigers (9) four games to zero 1915 Boston Red Sox (14) upset the 1984 Chicago Cubs (3) four games to three 1924 Cincinnati Reds (4) defeat the 2015 St. Louis Cardinals (13) four games to two 1911 Philadelphia Athletics (5) defeat the 2007 San Diego Padres (12) four games to one 1980 Montreal Expos (6) defeat the 2008 Philadelphia Phillies (11) four games to one 1902 Cincinnati Reds (10) upset the 1982 Montreal Expos (7) four games to one 1991 Atlanta Braves (2) defeat the 2012 Washington Nationals (15) four games to three Sweet Sixteen: 1995 Seattle Mariners (8) defeat the 1993 Chicago White Sox (16) four games to one 2004 Boston Red Sox (3) defeat the 2011 New York Yankees (13) four games to three 2016 Boston Red Sox (5) defeat the 2007 New York Yankees (6) four games to two 2001 Oakland Athletics (2) defeat the 1984 Toronto Blue Jays (10) four games to three 1953 New York Yankees (8) defeat the 1947 New York Yankees (16) four games to three 1915 Boston Red Sox (14) upset the 1924 Cincinnati Reds (4) four games to two 1911 Philadelphia Athletics (5) defeat the 1980 Montreal Expos (6) four games to three 1991 Atlanta Braves (2) defeat the 1902 Cincinnati Reds (10) four games to two Elite Eight: 2004 Boston Red Sox (3) defeat the 1995 Seattle Mariners (8) four games to one 2001 Oakland Athletics (2) defeat the 2016 Boston Red Sox (5) four games to one 1953 New York Yankees (8) defeat the 1915 Boston Red Sox (14) four games to one 1911 Philadelphia Athletics (5) upset the 1991 Atlanta Braves (2) four games to one Pennant Series: 2004 Boston Red Sox (3) upset the 2001 Oakland Athletics (2) four games to zero 1911 Philadelphia Athletics (5) defeat the 1953 New York Yankees (8) four games to zero World Series: The 1911 Philadelphia Athletics (5) upset the 2004 Boston Red Sox (3) four games to three |
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League 1-5 Team Roster:
Original League 1: 1901 St. Louis Cardinals 1906 Chicago White Sox 1907 Detroit Tigers 1908 New York Giants 1909 New York Giants 1910 Boston Americans 1911 Chicago White Sox 1912 Chicago Cubs 1913 New York Giants 1915 Philadelphia Phillies 1920 Chicago White Sox 1923 Cleveland Indians 1926 New York Yankees 1928 New York Yankees 1930 Philadelphia Athletics 1930 Chicago Cubs 1931 Washington Senators 1933 St. Louis Cardinals 1934 Detroit Tigers 1936 Pittsburgh Pirates 1937 Chicago Cubs 1938 New York Yankees 1938 Detroit Tigers 1939 New York Yankees 1939 Boston Red Sox 1943 Cincinnati Reds 1945 Washington Senators 1956 Chicago White Sox 1958 Milwaukee Braves 1960 Chicago White Sox 1962 New York Yankees 1965 Minnesota Twins 1965 San Francisco Giants 1966 Los Angeles Dodgers 1966 Minnesota Twins 1967 Minnesota Twins 1968 St. Louis Cardinals 1970 New York Mets 1976 Cincinnati Reds 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates 1982 Pittsburgh Pirates 1984 San Diego Padres 1992 Montreal Expos 1993 Houston Astros 2001 San Francisco Giants 2002 Arizona Diamondbacks 2002 St. Louis Cardinals 2016 Los Angeles Dodgers Fun group here. The two teams on either side of the 1927 Yankees are here, the 1939 Yankees are here (generally considered the best of the Dimaggio teams), the 1976 Reds are here . . . should be fun. Original League 2: 1903 Chicago Cubs 1904 New York Giants 1904 Cleveland Naps 1905 Philadelphia Athletics 1908 Chicago Cubs 1908 Pittsburgh Pirates 1908 Chicago White Sox 1909 Chicago Cubs 1910 Detroit Tigers 1910 New York Yankees 1925 Washington Senators 1928 Pittsburgh Pirates 1932 Philadelphia Athletics 1933 Chicago Cubs 1936 Washington Senators 1946 St. Louis Cardinals 1946 Brooklyn Dodgers 1947 Cleveland Indians 1947 Detroit Tigers 1950 Cleveland Indians 1951 Boston Braves 1956 Detroit Tigers 1957 Chicago White Sox 1962 Los Angeles Dodgers 1962 Pittsburgh Pirates 1963 Chicago White Sox 1965 Chicago White Sox 1965 Baltimore Orioles 1967 Chicago Cubs 1969 Chicago Cubs 1969 New York Mets 1969 Pittsburgh Pirates 1970 Boston Red Sox 1971 Baltimore Orioles 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates 1981 Los Angeles Dodgers 1984 Houston Astros 1990 Montreal Expos 1993 Montreal Expos 1994 Cincinnati Reds 1994 Houston Astros 1994 Los Angeles Dodgers 1995 Cincinnati Reds 2000 Colorado Rockies 2002 Atlanta Braves 2013 St. Louis Cardinals 2014 Washington Nationals 2014 Los Angeles Dodgers Some interesting early Cubs teams (who never seem to do well in OOTP, but whatevs) another 40s Cardinals team, the 1971 World Series on both sides (Orioles and Pirates), and some nice recent teams led by the '13 Cardinals and the '14 Nationals. Good Times! |
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