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Old 08-18-2017, 05:41 PM   #1
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Sansterre's Historical MLB SuperTournament

So. I like overelaborate and ambitious projects. I was thinking about a Greatest of All-Time Tournament. Not to determine the best team ever; OOTP is imperfect and the worse team wins sometimes so it would be naive to think that the best team would win. But I think a well-designed tournament would certainly suggest a best team (or six), and more to the point it would serve as an educational tour through baseball's history. And I do love history.

The Premise:

In the PBL twelve teams make the playoffs out of thirty-two each year. This makes for a ratio of 3:8. When trying to determine my initial cluster of teams I didn't want to be to tight, because I didn't want to risk cutting an underrated historical team. So I figured that the 3:8 ratio is worth preserving. It's going to let in a lot of teams that are only good, but not great, but I don't see that as a downside. I don't really want my great teams at risk for elimination in the first round.

When I talk about rounds, I'm going to be playing in rounds of seasons. Not single-elimination or anything, or even best of seven. I want each round of the tournament to be a long season where the teams get plenty of time to prove themselves.

The Execution:

I decided that 1901 would be as early as I would go. Before that the game just gets wacky. Did you know that between 1901 and 2016 (inclusive) there have been 2426 team seasons? 3/8ths of those is 909, so the first round of the SuperTournament will have no less than 900 teams. The first round will be (loosely) 10 different leagues of 90 teams each. The top 3/8ths of these 900 teams will win entry into one of the four 84 team leagues that make up the next round. The top 3/8ths of those teams will advance into the three leagues of 42 quarter-final round. The top 3/8ths of those teams will advance into the two - 24 team league semi-final round. And the top 3/8ths of those teams will advance to the Finals, made up of the top 18 teams of the last 116 years.

Selection: I grabbed every good team since 1901 (determined by a formula loosely based on SRS) and sorted them, giving the top 900 teams spots. I seeded the ten leagues appropriately. There are no exceptions for fluky teams. In 1987 the Minnesota Twins went 85-77, giving them the fifth best record of the fourteen AL teams that year, but they won a playoff spot since the top four teams were all in the same division. Further, their 85-77 record was a little lucky, since their pythag was actually 79-83. This combined to give them an SRS of -0.1, which is fair since they generally look average or a little below. However, through some combination of great pitching and luck the Twins won the World Series that year. But they are not in my tournament because there's no reason to think they were actually in the top 3/8ths of the league.

Season Length: 240. I know this seems long, but bigger sample size is better for determining the best.

Selection for Subsequent Rounds: Each team's record is recorded in a sheet. For every playoff series they win (top 3/8ths make the playoffs) one win is added to their regular season record. The top 3/8ths of all regular season records (between all leagues) advance, and record in the prior round determines seeding. So winning the playoffs in your league is nice, and helps, but the 240-game regular season is what really matters.

DH: The DH teams will be organized into DH-only leagues for purposes of competition. There's no way to evaluate the quality of DH teams without actually allowing them to use a DH. This does mean that the SuperTournament Final will be something like twelve non-DH teams in one league and six DH teams in the other, or something like that. There are more DH teams than you might think, as once interleague play starts the AL generally has 7 out of every 10 top teams. (Before then you can't really know).

Injuries & Suspensions: Off. I know it's unrealistic, and it also compromises things a bit with players that were great but oft-injured. But OOTP builds its historical teams around their rosters and roles for that season. If only one player played SS that year for a team, OOTP will only give one player a rating at that position, and if that guy gets injured the team is unrealistically screwed. Playing with injuries seemed like a worse skew than playing without.

Other Misc Settings: Development off. Trading off. Finances off. Everything that would move players between rosters off. Chemistry off, Morale off, Coaching off.

Stat Era: Historical OOTP simulations are designed around picking players from their era and moving them to a new one. So I had to figure out which era to hold this tournament in. I grabbed the R/G, HR/G, K/G, BB/G and SB/G from every season involved. The I calculated the averages and gave every season ratings on how many standard deviations it was in each category from the historical average. The winner was 1977; home runs but not too many, 3:2 K/BB ratio, 4.5 R/G, pretty mellow overall.

Strategies and Roster Settings: I set the default to four-man rotations. Five-man rotations have certainly become normal but there are a lot of historical teams that simply didn't have a fifth option. It seems a more reasonable skew to take a fifth starter away from 5-man rotations than demand that 4-man rotations come up with a starter that their roster simply doesn't have. All strategies (running, shifts, pitcher stamina, use relievers, etc) are set to 'normal'.

That's everything I can think of about the setup itself. If there is curiosity and I have left anything out please let me know.
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:42 PM   #2
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Team Composition:

Because this is the sort of thing that I was curious about myself. The breakdown of the 900 teams is as follows:

Angels: 16 teams / 56 years
Arizona: 3 teams / 19 years
Astros: 17 teams / 55 years
Athletics: 43 teams / 116 years (includes both Oakland and Philadelphia)
Braves: 30 teams / 116 years (includes Boston, Milwaukee and Atlanta)
Brewers: 12 teams / 48 years
Cardinals: 47 teams / 116 years
Cleveland: 42 teams / 116 years
Colorado: 5 teams / 24 years
Cubs: 36 teams / 116 years
Detroit: 49 teams / 116 years
Dodgers: 52 teams / 116 years (includes Brooklyn and LA)
Giants: 63 teams / 116 years (includes NY and SF)
Marlins: 2 teams / 24 years
Mets: 16 teams / 55 years
Orioles: 46 teams / 116 years (includes Stl Browns and Milwaukee Brewers v.1)
Padres: 5 teams / 48 years
Phillies: 26 teams / 116 years
Pirates: 53 teams / 116 years
Rangers: 18 teams / 56 years (includes brief Washington Senators stint)
Red Sox: 57 teams / 116 years (includes Boston Americans)
Reds: 40 teams / 116 years
Royals: 11 teams / 48 years
Seattle: 10 teams / 40 years
Tampa Bay: 7 teams / 19 years
Toronto: 21 teams / 40 years
Twins: 33 teams / 117 years (includes Washington Senators)
Washington: 13 teams / 48 years (includes Expos)
White Sox: 44 teams / 116 years
Yankees: 82 teams / 114 years (includes Highlanders)

Highest Overall:

1. Yankees, 82
2. Giants, 63
3. Red Sox, 57
4. Pirates, 53
5. Dodgers, 52

Highest Ratio:

1. Yankees, 1 every 1.39 years
2. Giants, 1 every 1.84 years
3. Toronto, 1 every 1.9 years
4. Red Sox, 1 every 2.04 years
5. Pirates, 1 every 2.19 years

Lowest Ratio:

1. Marlins, 1 every 12 years
2. Padres, 1 every 9.6 years
3. Arizona, 1 every 6.3 years
4. Colorado, 1 every 4.8 years
5. Phillies, 1 every 4.5 years
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:45 PM   #3
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Round 1 - League 1

For dodgy reasons, mostly relating to trying to get 254 DH teams reasonably evenly divided, League 1-1 contains 44 DH teams (in one league) and 48 non-DH teams.

They are (in chronological Order):

DH League

1973 Red Sox
1975 Orioles
1975 Red Sox
1975 Yankees
1976 Royals
1977 Yankees
1978 Red Sox
1978 Rangers
1979 Red Sox
1981 Yankees
1982 Orioles
1982 Royals
1982 White Sox
1982 Tigers
1983 Orioles
1985 Yankees
1988 Brewers
1988 Royals
1992 Toronto
1995 Yankees
1997 Yankees
1998 Rangers
2001 Yankees
2003 Seattle
2005 Angels
2005 Yankees
2005 Red Sox
2007 Tigers
2008 Tampa Bay
2008 White Sox
2008 Twins
2010 Rangers
2011 Tampa Bay
2012 Orioles
2013 Red Sox
2013 Rangers
2013 Cleveland
2013 Tampa Bay
2015 Toronto
2015 Astros
2015 Royals
2015 Red Sox
2015 Angels
2015 Twins

Original League

1902 Pirates
1903 Cleveland
1906 Cleveland
1907 Athletics
1908 Tigers
1908 Cleveland
1914 Giants
1916 Giants
1918 Giants
1922 Yankees
1923 Reds
1923 Tigers
1925 Reds
1935 Cubs
1939 Cardinals
1942 Brooklyn
1953 Cleveland
1954 Cleveland
1955 Cleveland
1955 Red Sox
1956 Brooklyn
1956 Cleveland
1958 Yankees
1958 Cleveland
1958 Tigers
1961 Yankees
1961 Orioles
1963 Yankees
1964 Orioles
1964 Reds
1964 Brewers
1964 Twins
1967 Red Sox
1967 Giants
1972 Reds
1972 Athletics
1980 Reds
1980 Cardinals
1987 Cardinals
1987 Giants
1989 Cubs
1991 Pirates
1997 Dodgers
2001 Arizona
2004 Dodgers
2004 Giants
2004 Phillies
2011 Brewers

There are obviously some filler teams in there (I mean, they're good, but have no shot at winning this thing).

Teams to Watch:

DH League:

2015 Toronto - not to be lame, since they're a recent team, but that season was super dominating for a perpetually loaded AL
1997 Yankees - Honestly, all the Yankees teams from 1997 to 2005 are pretty good
2013 Red Sox - the Red Sox had some really good teams in the last 15 years
1985 Yankees - Are there decades the Yankees don't have great teams in? (the aughts. everything else is yankified)

Non-DH League:

1902 Pirates - This team completely dominated its league. In 1903 they lost half of their four starters, but for 1902 Pittsburgh was dominant.
1958, 61 Yankees - I don't know which I like more. Actually, 61.
1991 Pirates - I don't think they're quite all-time dominant, but that was a damned good team.
1972 Reds - Big Red! Big Red!
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:46 PM   #4
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80-Game Update:

DH League Update:

Top 14:

1. 2013 Boston Red Sox: 53-27 (+3 Pythag)
2. 1997 New York Yankees: 51-29 (0)
3. 1998 Texas Rangers: 50-30 (+1)
4. 1992 Toronto Blue Jays: 50-30 (+2)
5. 2001 New York Yankees: 48-32 (-1)
6. 2015 Toronto Blue Jays: 47-33 (-1)
7. 2013 Texas Rangers: 46-34 (+1)
8. 1982 Chicago White Sox: 46-34 (-2)
9. 1976 Kansas City Royals: 45-35 (+2)
10. 1978 Boston Red Sox: 44-36 (+4)
11. 2005 New York Yankees: 44-36 (-3)
12. 1979 Boston Red Sox: 44-36 (0)
13. 1988 Kansas City Royals: 43-37 (0)
14. 1978 Texas Rangers: 43-37 (+2)

Thoughts: It's interesting how close to 500 the lower teams are. Out of 44 teams you'd think that the 16th best team would have a better record. It's clear that the top of the pack are good enough that they're driving the records of everyone else down. I'm not surprised that the Yankees have two teams in the top 5 (pythag-wise, three teams in the top 7). I'm not surprised that the Jays have those two teams in the top 6; those are two of the strongest teams Toronto has to offer. I'm definitely surprised that Texas has two teams in the top 7.

Fluke Watch:

1998 Texas Rangers: I just don't trust them. They've thrown up a WAR that matches up with their record, or thereabouts. But they do lead the entire DH league in BABIP, even though their ZR is only above average. Also, Royce Clayton is batting 278, and that crap ain't gonna continue. That said, even if they go 500 the rest of the way that would give them a 130-110 record which would still likely get them through to the next round.

Top Offense (league average is 4.9 R/G):

2013 Red Sox: 5.8 R/G, wRC+ 125 (all their batters but one are above league average, led by David Ortiz, Salty, Stephen Drew and Mike Napoli)
2015 Blue Jays: 5.7 R/G, wRC+ 131 (Josh Donaldson's batting 362/432/546, Chris Colabello and Danny Valencia crushing the ball)
2001 Yankees: 5.6 R/G, wRC+ 113 (13th in OBP, 18th in SLG, 3rd in R/G? Fluke.)
1992 Blue Jays: 5.6 R/G, wRC+ 118 (Olerud, Winfield, Joe Carter and Roberto Alomar all raking)
1998 Rangers: 5.6 R/G, wRC+ 118 (Juan Gonzalez, Will Clark and Rusty Greer are all hitting above 300, slugging above 500)

Top Defense:

1997 Yankees: 3.7 R/G, +8.2 ZR, 4.19 FIP (overperforming a little, but David Cone and Andy Pettitte are pitching very well)
1982 White Sox: 4.1 R/G, -6.4 ZR, 4.13 FIP (across the board great pitching, but HRA are pretty unsustainably low)


Original League Update
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Top 16:

1. 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates: 50-30 (-3 Pythag)
2. 1991 Pittsburgh Pirates: 50-30 (+1)
3. 1961 New York Yankees: 49-31 (-2)
4. 1964 Cincinnati Reds: 49-31 (+3)
5. 1955 Cleveland Indians: 48-32 (+3)
6. 1923 Detroit Tigers: 47-33 (+1)
7. 1987 San Francisco Giants: 46-34 (-1)
8. 1955 Boston Red Sox: 45-35 (0)
9. 1908 Detroit Tigers: 44-36 (+5)
10. 1916 New York Giants: 44-36 (+3)
11. 1964 Minnesota Twins: 44-36 (+3)
12. 1958 Detroit Tigers: 43-37 (+2)
13. 1954 Cleveland Indians: 43-37 (-3)
14. 1939 St. Louis Cardinals: 43-37 (+4)
15. 1907 Philadelphia Athletics: 43-37 (-2)
16. 1942 Brooklyn Dodgers: 43-37 (0)

Thoughts: The pythagorean skew is pretty extreme. '54 Cleveland has the 13th best record, but has tied for the 4th best pythagorean record. I'm a little surprised that the '91 Pirates are competitive with the '02 version and the '61 Yankees. We'll see if that keeps up.

Top Offense (league average is 4.5 R/G):

1955 Red Sox: 5.4 R/G, 119 wRC+ (Ted Williams is batting 319/449/564)
1906 Naps: 5.2 R/G, 108 wRC+ (Nap Lajoie, Elmer Flick, Bill Bradley, Terry Turner)
1955 Indians: 5.2 R/G, 110 wRC+ (Larry Doby is his usual excellent self, Al Smith is slugging 614 . . . that's most of it)
1964 Braves: 5.1 R/G, 116 wRC+ (Denis Menke is overperforming, but Rico Carty and Hank Aaron are doing just fine)
1908 Athletics: 5.1 R/G, 105 wRC+ (Topsy Hartsel, Harry Davis, Socks Seybold - I've always loved Topsy Hartsel, not just for the name)

Top Defense:

1902 Pirates: 3.4 R/G, -13 ZR (by far the best FIP in the league)
1961 Yankees: 3.5 R/G, +17 ZR (Whitey Ford leads a solid rotation with great defense behind it)
1991 Pirates: 3.5 R/G, +13 ZR (Zane Smith and Doug Drabek)
1987 Giants: 3.6 R/G, -2 ZR (Kelly Downs, Rick Reuschel and Dave Dravecky are great at keeping the ball in the park)


Well, that's only the first third of the season but we're already starting to see some separation, about 7-12 games between the top teams and the bubble teams. We'll see how things look at 160 games.

Out of curiosity, what sort of things would you find interesting to read about in such posts? Individual leaders? Streaks? Just let me know; as long as it's not too time consuming I'd be happy to post it. If there are any teams from the original list of 92 posted above that you want updates on that's easily done.
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Old 08-23-2017, 07:19 PM   #5
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160-Game Update:

DH League Update:

Top 16:

1. 2015 Toronto Blue Jays: 100-60 (+2 pythag)
2. 1997 New York Yankees: 98-62 (0)
3. 2013 Boston Red Sox: 98-62 (-1)
4. 2001 New York Yankees: 97-63 (+1)
5. 2015 Houston Astros: 96-64 (+4)
6. 1992 Toronto Blue Jays: 94-66 (+3)
7. 2003 Seattle Mariners: 92-68 (+3)
8. 1998 Texas Rangers: 91-69 (+4)
9. 1978 Texas Rangers: 91-69 (+3)
10. 2005 New York Yankees: 90-70 (+3)
11. 1978 Boston Red Sox: 88-72 (+3)
12. 1982 Chicago White Sox: 87-73 (-2)
13. 2010 Texas Rangers: 86-74 (+1)
14. 1976 Kansas City Royals: 86-74 (+5)
15. 1975 Boston Red Sox: 86-74 (0)
16. 2015 Kansas City Royals: 85-75 (+5)

Almost Certainly Eliminated


1981 New York Yankees
2005 Los Angeles Angels
2008 Minnesota Twins
1973 Boston Red Sox
2015 Los Angeles Angels
1983 Baltimore Orioles
1975 Baltimore Orioles
2012 Baltimore Orioles
1982 Detroit Tigers
2015 Boston Red Sox
1982 Baltimore Orioles
1988 Milwaukee Brewers


Original League Update:

Top 18:


1. 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates: 105-55 (+3 Pythag)
2. 1964 Cincinnati Reds: 97-63 (+4)
3. 1991 Pittsburgh Pirates: 94-66 (+2)
4. 1955 Cleveland Indians: 87-73 (+7)
5. 1987 San Francisco Giants: 90-70 (-3)
6. 1954 Cleveland Indians: 89-71 (-4)
7. 1903 Cleveland Naps: 89-71 (+4)
8. 1916 New York Giants: 86-74 (+4)
9. 1989 Chicago Cubs: 86-74 (+6)
10. 1961 New York Yankees: 86-74 (-6)
11. 1980 Cincinnati Reds: 85-75 (+2)
12. 1907 Philadelphia Athletics: 85-75 (0)
13. 1955 Boston Red Sox: 84-76 (-1)
14. 1923 Detroit Tigers: 84-76 (+1)
15. 2001 Arizona Diamondbacks: 83-77 (+1)
16. 1908 Cleveland Naps: 83-77 (+5)
17. 1958 Detroit Tigers: 82-78 (+3)
18. 1987 St. Louis Cardinals: 82-78 (+1)

Almost Certainly Eliminated:


1967 Boston Red Sox
1923 Cincinnati Reds
1997 Los Angeles Dodgers
1922 New York Yankees
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You used 44 White Sox teams? I see 2008 & 1982, where is 2005, 1983, 1993 etc?
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Apologies for my lack of clarity. The nine hundred teams that qualified for the tournament are divided between ten leagues. The listed teams constitute one of the ten leagues. There are nine more leagues that contain the remainder of your white Sox teams. These teams are competing for the right to move on to the next round.
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League 1-1 Pennant Chase Update



DH League

Percentages listed are chance of making the top 16 teams, which are both the playoffs and the likely indicator of advancing to the next round of the Tournament.

1. 2015 Toronto Blue Jays, 134-77 (+2) - 100%
2. 2013 Boston Red Sox, 133-78 (+4) - 100%
3. 1997 New York Yankees, 132-79 (+3) - 100%
4. 2003 Seattle Mariners, 123-88 (+6) - 100%
5. 1992 Toronto Blue Jays, 123-88 (+1) - 100%
6. 2001 New York Yankees, 123-88 (-1) - 100%
7. 2015 Houston Astros, 121-90 (+3) - 100%
8. 1998 Texas Rangers, 120-91 (+3) - 100%
9. 1978 Boston Red Sox, 120-91 (+4) - 100%
10. 2005 New York Yankees, 119-92 (+5) - 100%
11. 1978 Texas Rangers, 118-93 (+5) - 100%
12. 1988 Kansas City Royals, 114-97 (0) - 95.2%
13. 2010 Texas Rangers, 114-97 (-2) - 96.5%
14. 1982 Chicago White Sox, 113-98 (-2) - 88.8%
15. 2015 Kansas City Royals, 112-99 (+4) - 79.1%
16. 1977 New York Yankees, 110-101 (+1) - 54.2%
17. 2013 Tampa Bay Rays, 110-101 (-1) - 51.6%
18. 1975 Boston Red Sox, 107-104 (-3) - 11.6%
19. 1979 Boston Red Sox, 107-104 (-2) - 12%

Note that despite the fact that there are 29 games remaining, the odds calculator only sees 19 teams with a shot at the final 16 teams (the Original League, in contrast, has 25 teams with a shot at the last 16 spots). What happened? The 2013 Cleveland Indians are only a game behind the '79 Red Sox, but have a six-game worse pythagorean record. The 2013 Texas Rangers are two games behind the Sox, but have an eight-game worse pythagorean record. And so on.


Original League

Percentages listed are chance of making the top 16 teams, which are both the playoffs and the likely indicator of advancing to the next round of the Tournament, though generally a league of this size will expect to send 18 teams to the next round.

1. 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates, 136-75 (+1) - 100%
2. 1964 Cincinnati Reds, 126-85 (+8) - 100%
3. 1991 Pittsburgh Pirates, 122-89 (-2) - 100%
4. 1955 Cleveland Indians, 119-92 (+6) - 100%
5. 1987 San Francisco Giants, 117-94 (0) - 99.6%
6. 1954 Cleveland Indians, 116-95 (-4) - 99.6%
7. 2004 San Francisco Giants, 115-96 (+3) - 98%
8. 1903 Cleveland Naps, 115-96 (+5) - 94%
9. 1958 New York Yankees, 115-96 (+4) - 97%
10. 1987 St. Louis Cardinals, 114-97 (+2) - 93.3%
11. 1916 New York Giants, 113-98 (+4) - 84.6%
12. 1961 New York Yankees, 112-99 (-7) - 83.8%
13. 1964 Baltimore Orioles, 112-99 (+5) - 75.8%
14. 1923 Detroit Tigers, 110-100 (+5) - 65.1%
15. 1955 Boston Red Sox, 110-101 (0) - 50.8%
16. 1963 New York Yankees, 110-101 (-2) - 46.8%
17. 2001 Arizona Diamondbacks, 110-101 (+1) - 43.5%
18. 1989 Chicago Cubs, 109-102 (+3) - 30.9%
19. 1980 Cincinnati Reds, 108-103 (+1) - 18.9%
20. 1907 Philadelphia Athletics, 108-103 (-2) - 18.9%
21. 1958 Detroit Tigers, 108-103 (+4) - 20.7%
22. 1967 San Francisco Giants, 107-104 (-5) - 12.8%
23. 1939 St. Louis Cardinals, 107-104 (0) - 11.8%
24. 1908 Cleveland Naps, 107-104 (+8) - 10.1%
25. 1908 Detroit Tigers, 107-104 (0) - 14.1%

What a genuinely freakish lead the 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates have. They have a ten-game lead in normal record, and an 11-game lead in pythag. Yeah, it's 211 games in, but still. These teams are all, at minimum, pretty good. Based on this one season, if I were to pick one team of these 92 to make the final round, the 1902 Pirates would be it.
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Where's 2016 Cubs and Indians?

Might also do what if Teams so let's say the Royals still had like Shields,Holland,Davis,Cueto,Zobrist and so on from 2014 and 2015 would they had made Playoffs last year or better yet today meaning when it all in Game.
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Where's 2016 Cubs and Indians?

Might also do what if Teams so let's say the Royals still had like Shields,Holland,Davis,Cueto,Zobrist and so on from 2014 and 2015 would they had made Playoffs last year or better yet today meaning when it all in Game.
The 2016 Cleveland Indians are a middle seed of League 1-4. The 2016 Chicago Cubs are the second seeded team in League 1-5. Right now we're only seeing League 1-1; the teams in League 1-2 will be posted within the week.

The downside of starting with 900 teams is that, unless you're speed-simming, it does take a second
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Final Standings League 1-1

DH League (Playoff Teams Only):


1. 1997 New York Yankees, 152-88 (+1)
2. 2013 Boston Red Sox, 149-91 (+5)
3. 2015 Toronto Blue Jays, 148-92 (+1)
4. 2001 New York Yankees, 141-99 (-1)
5. 2015 Houston Astros, 141-99 (+5)
6. 2005 New York Yankees, 139-101 (+6)
7. 1998 Texas Rangers, 138-102 (+4)
8. 1992 Toronto Blue Jays, 136-104 (-2)
9. 2003 Seattle Mariners, 136-104 (+6)
10. 1978 Boston Red Sox, 135-105 (+4)
11. 1982 Chicago White Sox, 134-106 (+1)
12. 1978 Texas Rangers, 132-108 (+4)
13. 1988 Kansas City Royals, 130-110 (0)
14. 2015 Kansas City Royals, 129-111 (+4)
15. 2010 Texas Rangers, 129-111 (-3)
16. 1977 New York Yankees, 128-112 (+1)

Original League (Playoff Teams Only):

1. 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates, 156-84 (+3)
2. 1964 Cincinnati Reds, 142-98 (+8)
3. 1991 Pittsburgh Pirates, 139-101 (-4)
4. 1955 Cleveland Indians, 136-104 (+6)
5. 1903 Cleveland Naps, 135-105 (+6)
6. 2004 San Francisco Giants, 133-107 (+2)
7. 1954 Cleveland Indians, 132-108 (-1)
8. 1964 Baltimore Orioles, 131-109 (+7)
9. 1987 San Francisco Giants, 131-109 (+2)
10. 1916 New York Giants, 130-110 (+7)
11. 1987 St. Louis Cardinals, 128-112 (+1)
12. 1989 Chicago Cubs, 127-113 (+5)
13. 1923 Detroit Tigers, 127-113 (+4)
14. 1958 New York Yankees, 126-114 (+5)
15. 1963 New York Yankees, 125-115 (-5)
16. 1907 Philadelphia Athletics, 125-115 (-2)


Playoffs:


Qualifying Round:

1997 Yankees defeat 1977 Yankees 4-2
1992 Blue Jays defeat 2003 Mariners 4-2
2015 Blue Jays defeat 2015 Royals 4-0
2001 Yankees defeat 1988 Royals 4-2
2015 Astros defeat 1978 Rangers 4-2
1982 White Sox defeat 2005 Yankees 4-3
1998 Rangers defeat 1978 Red Sox 4-1
2013 Red Sox defeat 2010 Rangers 4-2

1907 Athletics defeat 1902 Pirates 4-1
1964 Orioles defeat 1987 Giants 4-1
1958 Yankees defeat 1991 Pirates 4-2
1955 Indians defeat 1923 Tigers 4-2
1989 Cubs defeat 1903 Naps 4-3
2004 Giants defeat 1987 Cardinals 4-3
1916 Giants defeat 1954 Indians 4-3
1964 Reds defeat 1963 Yankees 4-2

Sweet 16:

1997 Yankees defeat 1992 Blue Jays 4-3
2001 Yankees defeat 2015 Blue Jays 4-1
1982 White Sox defeat 2015 Astros 4-0
1998 Rangers defeat 2013 Red Sox 4-2

1964 Orioles defeat 1907 Athletics 4-3
1955 Indians defeat 1958 Yankees 4-1
1989 Cubs defeat 2004 Giants 4-3
1964 Reds defeat 1918 Giants 4-0

Quarterfinals:

1997 Yankees defeat 2001 Yankees 4-2
1998 Rangers defeat 1982 White Sox 4-3

1964 Orioles defeat 1955 Indians 4-2
1964 Reds defeat 1989 Cubs 4-2

Pennant Series:

1997 Yankees defeat 1998 Rangers 4-3
1984 Orioles defeat 1964 Reds 4-3

World Series:

1997 Yankees defeat 1964 Orioles 4-3


Final Rankings (so far) for purposes of advancing to the next round:

So, before I post these. Teams may compete with the rest of their leagues for wins, but all 900 teams are compared with each other for purposes of advancing, so we won't really know who's advancing until everyone's played, though things should be pretty clear. Teams are credited 1 point per win in the regular season, and receive an addition 1.5 points per playoff series won. Teams not only qualify for the next round with these points but also are seeded into the next round based upon them. Points don't carry over into the next round. Without further adieu:

1997 Yankees: 159.5
1902 Pirates: 156
2013 Red Sox: 151.5
2015 Blue Jays: 149.5
1964 Reds: 146.5
2001 Yankees: 145
2015 Astros: 142.5
1998 Rangers: 142.5
2005 Yankees: 139
1991 Pirates: 139
1955 Indians: 139
1992 Blue Jays: 137.5
1982 White Sox: 137
1964 Orioles: 137
2003 Mariners: 136
1978 Red Sox: 135
1903 Naps: 135
2004 Giants: 134.5
1978 Rangers: 132
1954 Indians: 132
1916 Giants: 131.5
1987 Giants: 131
1988 Royals: 130
1989 Cubs: 130
2015 Royals: 129
2010 Rangers: 129
1977 Yankees: 128
1987 Cardinals: 128
1958 Yankees: 127.5
1923 Tigers: 127
1907 Athletics: 126.5
1963 Yankees: 125
2004 Dodgers: 124
1961 Yankees: 124
______________________ <- Theoretical Cutoff
1972 Athletics: 124
2013 Rays: 123
1975 Red Sox: 122
1967 Giants: 122
2004 Phillies: 122
1955 Red Sox: 122
1980 Reds: 122
2001 Diamondbacks: 122
1979 Red Sox: 121
1908 Tigers: 121


Final Thoughts on League 1-1:

Well. A hefty mix of randomness and not. The 1902 Pirates getting knocked off first round was clearly a surprise. Any time you get 32 teams in a tournament you get a lot of randomness. But I'd like to talk about a few teams.

The 1997 New York Yankees: This team is not known for being particularly dominating. After all, they lost in the ALDS; how good could they be? The answer is, quite good. They finished 96-66, with a pythag of 100-62 and an SRS of 1.2. Their batters combined for a mediocre (for teams in this tournament) 23.7 WAR, led by Bernie Williams, Tino Martinez and Derek Jeter. But their pitching was fantastic, combining for 32.8 WAR and led by Andy Pettitte (8.4 WAR) and David Cone (6.8 WAR). Long story short, this was a damned good team, a worthy winner to League 1-1. It's a shame that all the talent on this team never worked out in real life. JK. The 1998 Yankees are probably the scariest DH team coming down the pipe. Stay tuned!

The 1964 Orioles and 1964 Reds: On the surface these teams look flukey, and they are a bit. A superficial glance at them reveals that neither made the playoffs in real life. So what led them to doing so well here? Well first off, luck plays a role of course. But these teams were better than they looked. Cincinnati (92-70, 0) missed the playoffs by 1 game (giving them the second best record in the NL) but had a 4-game better pythag than the Cardinals. Baltimore finished 97-65, finishing a game behind the White Sox who finished a game behind the Yankees. Each of these teams are not historically great but was better than we might remember them, not unlike Cleveland from last year.

The 1961 Yankees: Anyone who read this carefully might have been surprised to find the '61 Yankees out of the playoffs, with a serious shot at not making the next round. I know that I was. A big part of this is luck. They had the 18th best record, but only four teams had a better pythag. They were clearly at least middle of the pack for the playoff teams here. But don't get it twisted. The '61 Yankees were a great team, but they probably aren't as great as you think they are. Yes, 109-53 is a great record (+6 makes them quite lucky, but 103-59 is still quite impressive). Their lineup was worth 36.2 WAR, with 63% of it coming from Micky Mantle, Roger Maris and Elston Howard. On one hand, those three are great (seriously, Mantle was a monster) but the lineup after that is not particularly strong. The real weak spot is the pitching staff: 12.9 WAR between them. Their 4-man rotation is 3.8 WAR (Whitey Ford), 3.6 WAR (Bill Stafford), 2.2 WAR (Ralph Terry) and 1.0 WAR (Rollie Sheldon). Don't hear me say they weren't great; they're certainly better than the '64 teams that ended up in the pennant series. But don't fall for thinking that these guys are in the same vein as the '27 Yankees. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're not terribly close.

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Now announcing, the lineup for League 1-2!


The teams are grouped by league and chronologically (this is another DH / original league). The info in each team's brief writeup is the team's year and name, their record, pythag deviation (higher means luckier), how their season ended, how many team WAR they put up (adjusted to 162 games), and their stars (top 2 players or everyone above 4.9 WAR or so).



League 1-2

DH League

1974 New York Yankees, 89-73 (+3 pythag), missed playoffs by 2 games, 40.1 WAR, Elliott Maddox (5.4, OF), Craig Nettles (4.9, 3B)

1975 Oakland Athletics, 98-64 (+1), lost to Boston in ALCS 3-0, 49.2 WAR, Reggie Jackson (6.7, OF), Bill North (5.7, OF), Gene Tenace (5.2, C), Claudell Washington (4.9, OF)

1977 Kansas City Royals, 102-60 (+4), lost to Yankees in ALCS 3-2, 51.3 WAR, George Brett (7.6, 3B), Al Cowens (5.3, OF), Dennis Leonard (5.6, SP)

1978 Kansas City Royals, 92-70 (-1), lost to Yankees in ALCS 3-1, 43.5 WAR, Amos Otis (7.4, CF), George Brett (5.4, 3B)

1979 California Angels, 88-74 (-2), lost to Orioles in ALCS 3-1, 40.9 WAR, Bobby Grich (5.9, 2B), Brian Downing (5.6, C)

1979 Milwaukee Brewers, 95-66 (+6), missed playoffs by 8 games, 48.2 WAR, Paul Molitor (5.6, 2B), Sixto Lezcano (5.6, OF), Gorman Thomas (4.8, CF), Mike Caldwell (4.8, SP)

1979 New York Yankees, 89-71 (+3), missed playoffs by 21 games, 36.8 WAR, Willie Randolph (5.2, 2B), Ron Guidry (6.5, SP), Tommy John (5.5, SP)

1980 Detroit Tigers, 84-78 (-4), missed playoffs by 19 games, 36.8 WAR, Alan Trammell (4.8, SS)

1981 Texas Rangers, 57-48 (-3), missed playoffs by 5 games, 39.6 WAR*, Buddy Bell (9.3*, 3B), Jim Sundberg (5.8*, C)

1981 Oakland Athletics, 64-45 (+3), lost to Yankees in ALCS 3-0, 41.3 WAR*, Rickey Henderson (9.8*, OF), Dwayne Murphy (6.5*, OF), Tony Armas (6.2*, OF), Steve McCatty (6.8, SP)

1983 Chicago White Sox, 99-63 (+3), lost to Orioles in ALCS 3-1, 44.5 WAR, Carlton Fisk (4.3, C), Richard Dotson (5.1, SP)

1984 Detroit Tigers, 104-58 (+5), won World Series over Padres 4-1, 51.8 WAR, Alan Trammell (6.7, SS), Chet Lemon (6.2, CF), Kirk Gibson (5.1, OF), Willie Hernandez (4.8, SP)

1984 Boston Red Sox, 86-76 (+1), missed playoffs by 22 games, 36.8 WAR, Wade Boggs (6.3, 3B), Dwight Evans (5.4, OF)

1985 Toronto Blue Jays, 99-62 (0), lost to Kansas City in ALCS 4-3, 51.6 WAR, Jesse Barfield (6.8, OF), Dave Stieb (6.9, SP), Jimmy Key (5.1, SP), Doyle Alexander (4.9, SP)

1985 Kansas City Royals, 91-71 (+5), won World Series over St. Louis 4-3, 40.8 WAR, George Brett (8.3, 3B), Bret Saberhagen (7.3, SP), Charlie Leibrandt (6.7, SP)

1988 Detroit Tigers, 88-74 (+2), missed playoffs by 1 game, 37.9 WAR, Alan Trammell (6.0, SS)

1989 Kansas City Royals, 92-70 (+5), missed playoffs by 7 games, 43.4 WAR, Bret Saberhagen (9.7, SP), Mark Gubicza (6.3, SP), Jeff Montgomery (4.6, CL)

1991 Minnesota Twins, 95-67 (+1), won World Series over Atlanta 4-3, 50.9 WAR, Shane Mack (5.0, OF), Kevin Tapani (6.8, SP)

1993 Toronto Blue Jays, 95-67 (+4), won World Series over Philly 4-2, 47.9 WAR, John Olerud (7.7, 1B), Devon White (6.2, CF), Roberto Alomar (6.1, 2B), Paul Molitor (5.7, DH)

1994 Baltimore Orioles, 63-49 (-2), no playoffs, would have missed by 5 games, 48.7* WAR, Rafael Palmiero (5.8*, 1B), Cal Ripken (5.8*, SS), Mike Mussina (7.8*, SP)

1995 California Angels, 78-67 (-4), missed playoffs by 1 game >.<, 46.5* WAR, Tim Salmon (7.4*, OF), Jim Edmonds (6.3*, CF)

1997 Baltimore Orioles, 98-64 (+4), lost to Indians in ALCS 4-2, 50.5 WAR, Mike Mussina (5.5, SP), Jimmy Key (4.6, SP)

1998 Boston Red Sox, 92-70 (-2), lost to Indians in ALDS 3-1, 48.5 WAR, Nomar Garciaparra (7.1, SS), Mo Vaughn (5.6, 1B), Pedro Martinez (7.2, SP)

1998 Cleveland Indians, 89-73 (+2), lost to Yankees in ALCS 4-2, 45.5 WAR, Kenny Lofton (5.9, CF), Manny Ramirez (5.2, OF)

1999 Cleveland Indians, 97-65 (+4), lost to Red Sox in ALDS 3-2, 48.2 WAR, Roberto Alomar (7.4, 2B), Manny Ramirez (7.3, OF), Omar Vizquel (6.0, SS), Kenny Lofton (5.6, CF)

1999 Texas Rangers, 95-67 (+7), lost to Yankees in ALDS 3-0, 46.4 WAR, Ivan Rodriguez (6.4, C), Rafael Palmiero (5.2, DH)

2003 Boston Red Sox, 95-67 (+1), lost to Yankees in ALC 4-3, 54.8 WAR, Nomar Garciaparra (6.1, SS), Bill Mueller (5.6, 3B), Manny Ramirez (5.4, OF), Trot Nixon (5.1, OF), Pedro Martinez (8.0, SP)

2005 Cleveland Indians, 93-69 (-3), missed playoffs by 2 games, 51.9 WAR, Grady Sizemore (6.6, CF), Travis Hafner (5.4, DH), Victor Martinez (5.2, C), Jhonny Peralta (5.1, SS)

2005 Chicago White Sox, 99-63 (+8), won World Series over Astros 4-0, 46.3 WAR, Mark Buehrle (4.8, SP), Jon Garland (4.6, SP)

2007 Los Angeles Angels, 94-68 (+4), lost in ALDS to Red Sox 3-0, 41.8 WAR, John Lackey (6.3, SP), Kelvin Escobar (4.9, SP)

2008 Toronto Blue Jays, 86-76 (-7), missed playoffs by 9 games, 46.8 WAR, Alex Rios (5.9, OF), Roy Halladay (6.2, SP)

2008 New York Yankees, 89-73 (+2), missed playoffs by 6 games, 43.8 WAR, Alex Rodriguez (6.8, 3B), Mike Mussina (5.2, SP)

2008 Cleveland Indians, 81-81 (-4), missed playoffs by 8 games, 38.8 WAR, Grady Sizemore (5.9, CF), Cliff Lee (6.9, SP)

2009 Boston Red Sox, 95-67 (+2), lost in ALDS to Angels 3-0, 51.6 WAR, Kevin Youkilis (6.6, 1B), Dustin Pedroia (5.6, 2B), Jason Bay (5.2, OF), Jon Lester (6.3, SP), Josh Beckett (5.1, SP)

2009 Toronto Blue Jays, 75-87 (-9), missed the playoffs by a million games (jk, 20), 40.7 WAR, Aaron Hill (5.8, 2B), Marco Scutaro (5.4, SS), Roy Halladay (6.9, SP)

2010 Tampa Bay Rays, 96-66 (0), lost in ALDS to Rangers 3-2, 49.8 WAR, Evan Longoria (8.1, 3B), Carl Crawford (7.0, OF), David Price (4.8, SP)

2011 Los Angeles Angels, 86-76 (+1), missed playoffs by 5 games, 43.9 WAR, Peter Bourjos (5.1, CF), Jared Weaver (7.0, SP)

2012 New York Yankees, 95-67 (0), lost in ALCS to Tigers 4-0, 51.4 WAR, Robinson Cano (8.5, 2B), Hiroki Kuroda (5.5, SP)

2012 Detroit Tigers, 88-74 (+1), lost in World Series to Giants 4-0, 41.4 WAR, Miguel Cabrera (7.2, 3B), Austin Jackson (5.4, CF), Justin Verlander (7.8, SP)

2013 Oakland Athletics, 96-66 (0), lost in ALDS to Tigers 3-2, 41.1 WAR, Josh Donaldson (7.7, 3B), Bartolo Colon (5.0, SP)

2014 Oakland Athletics, 88-74 (-11), lost Wild Card to Royals 1-0, 44.4 WAR, Josh Donaldson (7.3, 3B)

2016 Seattle Mariners, 86-76 (-1), missed playoffs by 3 games, 38.8 WAR, Robinson Cano (7.3, 2B), Kyle Seager (6.9, 3B)


Original League

1901 Pittsburgh Pirates, 90-49 (-2), won National League, 50.3* WAR, Honus Wagner (8.3, SS), Fred Clarke (5.8, OF), Jack Chesbro (6.4, SP), Deacon Phillippe (5.5, SP), Jesse Tannehill (5.2, SP)

1902 Philadelphia Athletics, 83-53 (+3), won American League, 41.6 WAR*, Lave Cross (5.2, 3B), Socks Seybold (5.1, OF), Rube Waddell (11.6, SP), Eddie Plank (6.9, SP)

1904 Chicago Cubs, 93-60 (+6), missed playoffs by 13 games, 37 WAR*, Frank Chance (6.2, 1B), Jake Weimer (6.5, SP)

1905 Chicago Cubs, 92-61 (-12), missed playoffs by 13 games, 48.6 WAR*, Frank Chance (5.9, 1B), Ed Reulbach (8.8, SP), Bob Wicker (5.0, SP)

1905 Philadelphia Phillies, 83-69 (-4), missed playoffs by 21.5 games, 35.2 WAR*, John Titus (5.8, OF), Roy Thomas (5.7, OF), Sherry Magee (5.3, OF), Tully Sparks (5.6, SP)

1906 New York Giants, 96-56 (+6), missed playoffs by 20 games, 42 WAR*, Art Devlin (8.5, 3B), Roger Bresnahan (4.9, 1B)

1907 Pittsburgh Pirates, 91-63 (-1), missed playoffs by 17 games, 39.6 WAR*, Honus Wagner (9.5, SS), Tommy Leach (5.7, OF), Fred Clarke (5.5, OF)

1907 New York Giants, 82-71 (-3), missed playoffs by 25.5 games, 37.6 WAR*, Art Devlin (4.8, 3B), Christy Mathewson (8.0, SP)

1916 Boston Braves, 89-63 (+1), missed playoffs by 4 games, 36.2 WAR*, Rabbit Maranville (5.6, SS), Dick Rudolph (4.3, SP)

1917 Chicago White Sox, 100-54 (-1), won World Series over Giants 4-2, 53* WAR, Shoeless Joe Jackson (6.1, OF), Eddie Collins (5.3, 2B), Eddie Cicotte (12, SP)

1917 Philadelphia Phillies, 87-65 (+1), missed playoffs by 10 games, 38.4* WAR, Gavvy Cravath (4.7, OF), Pete Alexander (9.9, SP)

1919 New York Yankees, 80-59 (-2), missed playoffs by 11.5 games, 42.7* WAR, Roger Peckinpaugh (7.3, SS), Del Pratt (6.2, 2B)

1920 New York Giants, 86-68 (-7), missed playoffs by 7 games, 38.3* WAR, Ross Youngs (6.7, OF), Dave Bancroft (6.0, SS)

1920 Cincinnati Reds, 82-71 (-3), missed playoffs by 10.5 games, 35.9* WAR, Edd Roush (6.2, CF), Dutch Ruether (4.8, SP)

1923 New York Giants, 95-58 (+3), lost World Series to Yankees 4-2, 40.6* WAR, Frankie Frisch (7.1, 2B), Dave Bancroft (3.9, SS)

1923 Pittsburgh Pirates, 87-67 (+1), missed playoffs by 8.5 games, 36.4* WAR, Max Carey (5.3, CF), Pie Traynor (4.7, 3B)

1924 New York Giants, 93-60 (-3), lost World Series to Senators 4-3, 47.1* WAR, Frankie Frisch (7.9, 2B), Ross Youngs (6.2, OF), High Pockets Kelly (5.1, 1B)

1926 Chicago Cubs, 82-72 (-4), missed playoffs by 7 games, 41.7* WAR, Hack Wilson (5.5, CF), Charlie Root (5.5, SP)

1930 St. Louis Cardinals, 92-62 (-2), lost World Series to Athletics 4-2, 41.3* WAR, Frankie Frisch (4.9, 2B), Burleigh Grimes (4.6, SP)

1931 St. Louis Cardinals, 101-53 (+4), won World Series over Athletics 4-3, 42.6* WAR, Chick Hafey (4.5, OF), Bill Hallahan (4.4, SP)

1944 St. Louis Cardinals, 105-49 (-2), won World Series over Browns 4-2, 61.5* WAR, Stan Musial (9.3, OF), Johnny Hopp (5.8, CF), Marty Marion (4.9, SS), Mort Cooper (5.6, SP)

1945 Chicago Cubs, 98-56 (-1), lost World Series to Tigers 4-3, 49.0* WAR, Stan Hack (6.3, 3B), Phil Cavarretta (6.3, 1B), Claude Passeau (5.3, SP), Hank Wyse (5.3, SP)

1954 Milwaukee Braves, 89-65 (-1), missed playoffs by 8 games, 50.0* WAR, Eddie Mathews (8.1, 3B), Warren Spahn (5.4, SP), Lew Burdette (5.0, SP)

1954 New York Yankees, 103-51 (0), missed playoffs by 8 games, 47.7* WAR, Mickey Mantle (7.3, CF), Yogi Berra (5.7, C)

1955 Cincinnati Reds, 75-79 (-9), missed playoffs by 23.5 games, 42.5* WAR, Wally Post (5.6, OF), Ted Kluszewski (5.6, 1B)

1958 Pittsburgh Pirates, 84-70 (+1), missed playoffs by 8 games, 40.6* WAR, Bill Mazeroski (5.2, 2B), Roberto Clemente (4.6, OF)

1960 Pittsburgh Pirates, 95-59 (+3), won World Series over Yankees 4-3, 51.1* WAR, Dick Groat (6.5, SS), Don Hoak (5.7, 3B), Bob Friend (5.9, SP)

1961 San Francisco Giants, 85-69 (-4), missed playoffs by 8 games, 44* WAR, Willie Mays (9.2, CF), Orlando Cepeda (6.0, 1B)

1963 Minnesota Twins, 91-70 (-7), missed playoffs by 13 games, 48.8* WAR, Bob Allison (7.4, OF), Jimmie Hall (5.4, CF), Camilo Pascual (6.2, SP)

1963 St. Louis Cardinals, 93-69 (-1), missed playoffs by 6 games, 49.2 WAR, Dick Groat (7.1, SS), Bill White (6.0, 1B), Curt Flood (5.8, CF), Ken Boyer (5.2, 3B), Curt Simmons (4.9, SP)

1964 Philadelphia Phillies, 92-70 (+4), missed playoffs by 1 game, 39.9 WAR, Dick Allen (8.8, 3B), Johnny Callison (6.1, OF), Chris Short (6.2, SP), Jim Bunning (5.4, SP)

1970 Chicago Cubs, 84-78 (-10), missed playoffs by 5 games, 40.6 WAR, Billie Williams (6.6, OF), Jim Hickman (5.0, 1B), Fergie Jenkins (7.3, SP), Ken Holtzman (6.4, SP), Bill Hands (5.2, SP)

1971 Los Angeles Dodgers, 89-73 (-1), missed playoffs by 1 game, 38.9 WAR, Dick Allen (5.4, 3B), Willie Davis (5.2, CF),

1977 Cincinnati Reds, 88-74 (0), missed playoffs by 10 games, 38.9 WAR, George Foster (8.4, OF), Joe Morgan (5.8, 2B), Johnny Bench (5.0, C), Tom Seaver (5.6, SP)

1981 Cincinnati Reds, 66-42 (+9), missed playoffs by . . . hard to explain. 1981 was dumb, 36.3* WAR, Dave Concepcion (5.6, SS), George Foster (5.6, OF), Tom Seaver (6.0, SP)

1988 New York Mets, 100-60 (0), lost in NLCS to Dodgers 4-3, 56.2 WAR, Darryl Strawberry (5.4, OF), David Cone (5.6, SP)

1990 New York Mets, 91-71 (-7), missed playoffs by 4 games, 43.4 WAR, Darryl Strawberry (6.3, OF), Frank Viola (6.4, SP)

1996 San Diego Padres, 91-71 (+1), lost in NLDS to Cardinals 3-0, 40.2 WAR, Ken Caminiti (7.6, 3B), Steve Finley (5.7, CF)

1997 New York Mets, 88-74 (0), missed playoffs by 4 games, 31.3 WAR, Edgardo Alfonzo (6.2, 3B), Rick Reed (4.4, SP)

2005 Atlanta Braves, 90-72 (-1), lost in NLDS to Astros 3-1, 40.4 WAR, Andruw Jones (6.7, CF), Rafael Furcal (6.4, SS), John Smoltz (4.9, SP)

2007 Atlanta Braves, 84-78 (-4), missed the playoffs by 5 games, 39.7 WAR, Chipper Jones (7.6, 3B), Tim Hudson (4.7, SP)

2010 Cincinnati Reds, 91-71 (-1), lost in NLDS to Phillies 3-1, 39.7 WAR, Joey Votto (6.9, 1B), Jay Bruce (4.7, OF)


An asterix (*) by a team's WAR total indicates that the team didn't play 162 games, so their WAR (and that of their players) is adjusted to a 162-game season for comparison.

You may notice that earlier teams have a disproportionate tendency to either have missed the playoffs and to have missed the playoffs by a lot. Just remember that, once upon a time, only 1 in 8 teams made the playoffs, compared to 3/8 today.

Top Teams (sorted by team WAR):

DH League:


54.8: 2003 Boston Red Sox
51.9: 2005 Cleveland Indians
51.8: 1984 Detroit Tigers
51.6: 1977 Kansas City Royals
51.6: 1985 Toronto Blue Jays
51.6: 2009 Boston Red Sox
51.4: 2012 New York Yankees
50.9: 1991 Minnesota Twins
50.5: 1997 Baltimore Orioles
49.8: 2010 Tampa Bay Rays
49.2: 1975 Oakland Athletics
48.7: 1994 Baltimore Orioles
48.5: 1998 Boston Red Sox
48.2: 1979 Milwaukee Brewers
48.2: 1999 Cleveland Indians
47.9: 1993 Toronto Blue Jays

Original League:

61.5: 1944 St. Louis Cardinals
56.2: 1988 New York Mets
53.0: 1917 Chicago White Sox
51.1: 1960 Pittsburgh Pirates
50.3: 1901 Pittsburgh Pirates
50.0: 1954 Milwaukee Braves
49.2: 1963 St. Louis Cardinals
49.0: 1945 Chicago Cubs
48.8: 1963 Minnesota Twins
48.6: 1905 Chicago Cubs
47.7: 1954 New York Yankees


Should be an exciting group. No super-teams (I don't really know how OOTP compensates for the WW2-weakened rosters that the '44 Cardinals competed against). But a very nice mix of excellent teams, including some I'm very excited about watching, like Eddie Collins' 1917 White Sox, or the 1988 Mets, or the 2013 Red Sox. This is a notably Yankee-light league.
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I like your Tournament, it is a great idea. I am looking forward to the rest of the games. How does one go about setting up Tournaments like this? Is there any reference that I can use to learn how to create something like this? Thank you for your time, Karl
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I like your Tournament, it is a great idea. I am looking forward to the rest of the games. How does one go about setting up Tournaments like this? Is there any reference that I can use to learn how to create something like this? Thank you for your time, Karl
If you are asking how to set up a season with custom historical teams that's reasonably easy. You create a fictional league using the wizard and when you get to team selection click the button that enables "historical team selection". Then you select the year each team is from and then the team itself.

Everything beyond that I'm juggling in spreadsheets. I can go into more detail if you like, but I'll assume your question has been answered unless I hear otherwise
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League 1-2 Results


Original League Standings:


1. 1901 Pittsburgh Pirates, 152-88 (+1)
2. 1944 St. Louis Cardinals, 142-98 (-2)
3. 1977 Cincinnati Reds, 136-104 (-7)
4. 1988 New York Mets, 136-104 (+6)
5. 1970 Chicago Cubs, 136-104 (+6)
6. 2007 Atlanta Braves, 133-107 (-1)
7. 1990 New York Mets, 133-107 (+3)
8. 1907 New York Giants, 130-110 (+6)
9. 1931 St. Louis Cardinals, 129-111 (-2)
10. 1902 Philadelphia Athletics, 126-114 (0)
11. 1964 Philadelphia Phillies, 125-115 (+3)
12. 1960 Pittsburgh Pirates, 125-115 (-3)
13. 1923 Pittsburgh Pirates, 125-115 (+1)
14. 1917 Chicago White Sox, 124-116 (-2)
15. 1930 St. Louis Cardinals, 124-116 (-3)
16. 2010 Cincinnati Reds, 123-117 (+4)

DH League Standings:

1. 1993 Toronto Blue Jays, 152-88 (+5)
2. 2003 Boston Red Sox, 148-92 (+2)
3. 2008 New York Yankees, 146-94 (+6)
4. 2009 Boston Red Sox, 137-103 (+5)
5. 1991 Minnesota Twins, 134-106 (+2)
6. 1989 Kansas City Royals, 134-106 (-2)
7. 1984 Boston Red Sox, 134-106 (0)
8. 2008 Cleveland Indians, 133-107 (+8)
9. 2012 Detroit Tigers, 133-107 (-1)
10. 1984 Detroit Tigers, 133-107 (-3)
11. 1999 Cleveland Indians, 132-108 (-1)
12. 2007 Los Angeles Angels, 131-109 (-2)
13. 2005 Cleveland Indians, 128-112 (-6)
14. 1998 Cleveland Indians, 128-112 (0)
15. 1985 Kansas City Royals, 127-113 (+4)
16. 2012 New York Yankees, 126-114 (0)


Playoffs:

Qualifying Round:


2010 Reds (16) defeat 1901 Pirates (1) four games to zero
1931 Cardinals (9) defeat 1907 Giants (8) four games to two
1977 Reds (3) defeat 1917 White Sox (14) four games to zero
1923 Pirates (13) defeat 1988 Mets (4) four games to three
1960 Pirates (12) defeat 1970 Cubs (5) four games to zero
1964 Phillies (11) defeat 2007 Braves (6) four games to one
1990 Mets (7) defeat 1902 Athletics (10) four games to two
1930 Cardinals (15) defeat 1944 Cardinals (2) four games to zero

1993 Blue Jays (1) defeat 2012 Yankees (16) four games to three
2012 Tigers (9) defeat 2008 Indians (8) four games to two
2008 Yankees (3) defeat 1998 Indians (14) four games to two
2005 Indians (13) defeat 2009 Red Sox (4) four games to two
1991 Twins (5) defeat 2007 Angels (12) four games to three
1999 Indians (11) defeat 1989 Royals (6) four games to two
1984 Tigers (10) defeat 1984 Red Sox (7) four games to zero
2003 Red Sox (2) defeat 1985 Royals (15) four games to three


Sweet 16:

1931 Cardinals (9) defeat 2001 Reds (16) four games to zero
1977 Reds (3) defeat 1923 Pirates (13) four games to one
1960 Pirates (12) defeat 1964 Phillies (11) four games to zero
1990 Mets (7) defeat 1930 Cardinals (15) four games to three

1993 Blue Jays (1) defeat 2012 Tigers (9) four games to one
2008 Yankees (3) defeat 2005 Indians (13) four games to zero
1999 Indians (11) defeat 1991 Twins (5) four games to zero
2003 Red Sox (2) defeat 1984 Tigers (10) four games to one


Elite 8:

1931 Cardinals (9) defeat 1977 Reds (3) four games to three
1960 Pirates (12) defeat 1990 Mets (7) four games to three

2008 Yankees (3) defeat 1993 Blue Jays (1) four games to three
2003 Red Sox (2) defeat 1999 Indians (11) four games to three


Pennant Series:

1931 Cardinals (9) defeat 1960 Pirates (12) four games to three

2008 Yankees (3) defeat 2003 Red Sox (2) four games to zero


World Series:

1931 Cardinals (9) defeat 2008 Yankees (3) four games to three
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League 1-3 Team Roster:

League 1-3 has no DH teams; it's all non-DH teams.

Original League 1

1901 Brooklyn Superbas
1903 Pittsburgh Pirates
1903 New York Giants
1905 Chicago White Sox
1916 Detroit Tigers
1918 Washington Senators
1919 Chicago White Sox
1926 Philadelphia Athletics
1929 Philadelphia Athletics
1931 Philadelphia Athletics
1932 Washington Senators
1935 Detroit Tigers
1935 New York Yankees
1938 Cleveland Indians
1941 Brooklyn Dodgers
1943 Pittsburgh Pirates
1944 Detroit Tigers
1945 New York Yankees
1946 Detroit Tigers
1948 Brooklyn Dodgers
1951 Brooklyn Dodgers
1951 Cleveland Indians
1952 St. Louis Cardinals
1955 Detroit Tigers
1956 Cincinnati Reds
1960 Brooklyn Dodgers
1961 Cincinnati Reds
1962 Minnesota Twins
1970 Cincinnati Reds
1971 Oakland Athletics
1971 Detroit Tigers
1972 Pittsburgh Pirates
1977 Los Angeles Dodgers
1978 Philadelphia Phillies
1981 Montreal Expos
1982 St. Louis Cardinals
1986 New York Mets
1990 Cincinnati Reds
1993 San Francisco Giants
1995 New York Mets
1998 Houston Astros
1999 New York Mets
2000 St. Louis Cardinals
2001 St. Louis Cardinals
2001 Colorado Rockies
2003 San Francisco Giants
2009 Colorado Rockies
2010 Atlanta Braves
2012 Atlanta Braves
2013 Pittsburgh Pirates


Original League 2

1901 Chicago White Sox
1910 Philadelphia Athletics
1910 Chicago Cubs
1912 Boston Red Sox
1912 Pittsburgh Pirates
1914 Washington Senators
1926 Cleveland Indians
1928 Philadelphia Athletics
1929 Chicago Cubs
1932 New York Yankees
1936 New York Giants
1937 New York Giants
1937 Detroit Tigers
1938 New York Giants
1939 Cincinnati Reds
1939 Detroit Tigers
1943 Washington Senators
1944 Boston Red Sox
1945 Pittsburgh Pirates
1945 St. Louis Browns
1946 New York Yankees
1947 Brooklyn Dodgers
1948 New York Giants
1951 New York Yankees
1952 New York Giants
1953 Chicago White Sox
1955 Brooklyn Dodgers
1956 Milwaukee Braves
1957 Brooklyn Dodgers
1960 New York Yankees
1965 Cincinnati Reds
1965 Pittsburgh Pirates
1966 Atlanta Braves
1967 Detroit Tigers
1968 San Francisco Giants
1974 Pittsburgh Pirates
1975 Cincinnati Reds
1976 Philadelphia Phillies
1979 Montreal Expos
1981 St. Louis Cardinals
1982 Los Angeles Dodgers
1982 Atlanta Braves
1985 Los Angeles Dodgers
1986 San Francisco Giants
1994 Montreal Expos
1999 San Francisco Giants
2001 Los Angeles Dodgers
2009 Atlanta Braves
2010 San Francisco Giants
2010 San Diego Padres
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League 1-3 Results

Original League 1:

1. 1998 Houston Astros, 154-86 (+1)
2. 1990 Cincinnati Reds, 152-88 (-1)
3. 1986 New York Mets, 143-97 (+6)
4. 1946 Detroit Tigers, 138-102 (+5)
5. 1903 Pittsburgh Pirates, 135-105 (-5)
6. 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates, 135-105 (-3)
7. 1999 New York Mets, 133-107 (+7)
8. 1951 Brooklyn Dodgers, 132-108 (0)
9. 1926 Philadelphia Athletics, 131-109 (+8)
10. 2009 Colorado Rockies, 131-109 (-2)
11. 1952 St. Louis Cardinals, 131-109 (+5)
12. 2000 St. Louis Cardinals, 130-110 (+1)
13. 1978 Philadelphia Phillies, 130-110 (+1)
14. 1977 Los Angeles Dodgers, 126-114 (-5)
15. 2012 Atlanta Braves, 126-114 (+7)
16. 1993 San Francisco Giants, 126-114 (+6)

Original League 2:

1. 1965 Cincinnati Reds, 153-87 (+5)
2. 1975 Cincinnati Reds, 147-93 (-8)
3. 2009 Atlanta Braves, 140-100 (+6)
4. 1967 Detroit Tigers, 140-100 (-7)
5. 1985 Los Angeles Dodgers, 135-105 (+2)
6. 1982 Los Angeles Dodgers, 135-105 (+2)
7. 1968 San Francisco Giants, 135-105 (+1)
8. 1939 Detroit Tigers, 135-105 (0)
9. 1956 Milwaukee Braves, 132-108 (+7)
10. 1910 Philadelphia Athletics, 132-108 (-6)
11. 1951 New York Yankees, 132-108 (-5)
12. 1976 Philadelphia Phillies, 131-109 (+2)
13. 1974 Pittsburgh Pirates, 130-110 (+3)
14. 1910 Chicago Cubs, 129-111 (+2)
15. 1932 New York Yankees, 129-111 (-1)
16. 1999 San Francisco Giants, 125-115 (-6)


Playoffs:

Qualifying Round:



1998 Houston Astros (1) defeat 1993 San Francisco Giants (16) four games to zero
1926 Philadelphia Athletics (9) defeat 1951 Brooklyn Dodgers (8) four games to two
1977 Los Angeles Dodgers (14) defeat 1986 New York Mets (3) four games to one
1978 Philadelphia Phillies (13) defeat 1946 Detroit Tigers (4) four games to zero
1903 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) defeat 2000 St. Louis Cardinals (12) four games to two
1952 St. Louis Cardinals (11) defeat 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates (6) four games to three
2009 Colorado Rockies (10) defeat 1999 New York Mets (7) four games to zero
2012 Atlanta Braves (15) defeat 1990 Cincinnati Reds (2) four games to two

1999 San Francisco Giants (16) defeat 1965 Cincinnati Reds (1) four games to three
1965 Milwaukee Braves (9) defeat 1939 Detroit Tigers (8) four games to one
1910 Chicago Cubs (14) defeat 2009 Atlanta Braves (3) four games to two
1974 Pittsburgh Pirates (13) defeat 1967 Detroit Tigers (4) four games to zero
1976 Philadelphia Phillies (12) defeat 1985 Los Angeles Dodgers (5) four games to zero
1982 Los Angeles Dodgers (6) defeat 1951 New York Yankees (11) four games to two
1968 San Francisco Giants (7) defeat 1910 Philadelphia Athletics (10) four games to three
1932 New York Yankees (15) defeat 1975 Cincinnati Reds (2) four games to three


Sweet Sixteen:

1998 Houston Astros (1) defeat 1926 Philadelphia Athletics (9) four games to one
1978 Philadelphia Phillies (13) defeat 1977 Los Angeles Dodgers (14) four games to two
1903 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) defeat 1952 St. Louis Cardinals (11) four games to zero
2009 Colorado Rockies (10) defeat 2012 Atlanta Braves (15) four games to three

1956 Milwaukee Braves (9) defeat 1999 San Francisco Giants (16) four games to three
1974 Pittsburgh Pirates (13) defeat 1910 Chicago Cubs (14) four games to two
1982 Los Angeles Dodgers (6) defeat 1976 Philadelphia Phillies (12) four games to two
1968 San Francisco Giants (7) defeat 1932 New York Yankees (15) four games to two


Elite Eight:

1998 Houston Astros (1) defeat 1978 Philadelphia Phillies (13) four games to three
1903 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) defeat 2009 Colorado Rockies (10) four games to two

1956 Milwaukee Braves (9) defeat 1974 Pittsburgh Pirates (13) four games to two
1968 San Francisco Giants (7) defeat 1982 Los Angeles Dodgers (6) four games to zero


Pennant Series:

1998 Houston Astros (1) defeat 1903 Pittsburgh Pirates (5) four games to one

1968 San Francisco Giants (7) defeat 1956 Milwaukee Braves (9) four games to zero


World Series:

1998 Houston Astros (1) defeat 1968 San Francisco Giants (7) four games to two
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League 1-4 Team Roster:

DH League:


1976 New York Yankees
1977 Texas Rangers
1978 Detroit Tigers
1980 Baltimore Orioles
1980 New York Yankees
1980 Milwaukee Brewers
1980 Kansas City Royals
1981 Chicago White Sox
1981 Boston Red Sox
1981 Milwaukee Brewers
1983 Detroit Tigers
1983 Milwaukee Brewers
1984 Toronto Blue Jays
1985 Baltimore Orioles
1986 Texas Rangers
1989 Milwaukee Brewers
1993 Chicago White Sox
1993 New York Yankees
1994 Cleveland Indians
1995 Seattle Mariners
1995 Baltimore Orioles
1996 Texas Rangers
1999 New York Yankees
2000 Seattle Mariners
2001 Oakland Athletics
2002 Oakland Athletics
2004 Boston Red Sox
2005 Oakland Athletics
2005 Toronto Blue Jays
2005 Texas Rangers
2005 Minnesota Twins
2006 Oakland Athletics
2007 New York Yankees
2007 Cleveland Indians
2009 Texas Rangers
2010 New York Yankees
2011 New York Yankees
2012 Chicago White Sox
2014 Seattle Mariners
2015 New York Yankees
2015 Texas Rangers
2016 Boston Red Sox


Original League:

1902 Cincinnati Reds
1903 Cincinnati Reds
1904 Pittsburgh Pirates
1911 Philadelphia Athletics
1913 Philadelphia Athletics
1915 Boston Red Sox
1916 Philadelphia Phillies
1922 New York Giants
1924 Cincinnati Reds
1925 Philadelphia Athletics
1926 Cincinnati Reds
1927 Pittsburgh Pirates
1934 St. Louis Cardinals
1942 St. Louis Cardinals
1942 New York Giants
1947 New York Yankees
1948 St. Louis Cardinals
1951 New York Giants
1951 Chicago White Sox
1953 New York Yankees
1955 Milwaukee Braves
1961 Detroit Tigers
1962 New York Giants
1968 Detroit Tigers
1970 Minnesota Twins
1976 New York Mets
1977 Pittsburgh Pirates
1980 Montreal Expos
1982 Montreal Expos
1983 Montreal Expos
1984 Chicago Cubs
1991 Atlanta Braves
1996 Los Angeles Dodgers
1997 Florida Marlins
2001 Houston Astros
2003 Florida Marlins
2007 San Diego Padres
2008 Chicago Cubs
2008 Philadelphia Phillies
2010 St. Louis Cardinals
2012 Washington Nationals
2015 St. Louis Cardinals
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League 1-4 Results:


DH League Standings:


1. 1980 New York Yankees, 152-88 (+4)
2. 2001 Oakland Athletics, 145-95 (+3)
3. 2004 Boston Red Sox, 143-97 (-4)
4. 1999 New York Yankees, 142-98 (+6)
5. 2016 Boston Red Sox, 137-103 (+3)
6. 2007 New York Yankees, 136-104 (-7)
7. 2002 Oakland Athletics, 136-104 (0)
8. 1995 Seattle Mariners, 136-104 (+9)
9. 1996 Texas Rangers, 135-105 (+1)
10. 1984 Toronto Blue Jays, 135-105 (+9)
11. 1977 Texas Rangers, 135-105 (+5)
12. 1983 Milwaukee Brewers, 133-107 (+3)
13. 2011 New York Yankees, 132-108 (+2)
14. 2007 Cleveland Indians, 131-109 (0)
15. 2012 Chicago White Sox, 127-113 (+6)
16. 1983 Chicago White Sox, 126-114 (+4)

The 2014 Seattle Mariners, 2010 Yankees and the 1993 Yankees all made 125 wins, and so will likely advance to the next round of the tournament, even if they missed the playoffs.

Original League Standings:

1. 2003 Florida Marlins, 138-102 (+3)
2. 1991 Atlanta Braves, 138-102 (-4)
3. 1984 Chicago Cubs, 137-103 (-3)
4. 1924 Cincinnati Reds, 137-103 (-2)
5. 1911 Philadelphia Athletics, 137-103 (+1)
6. 1980 Montreal Expos, 135-105 (+2)
7. 1982 Montreal Expos, 134-106 (+1)
8. 1953 New York Yankees, 133-107 (0)
9. 1961 Detroit Tigers, 133-107 (-3)
10. 1902 Cincinnati Reds, 132-108 (-1)
11. 2008 Philadelphia Phillies, 130-110 (+1)
12. 2007 San Diego Padres, 129-111 (0)
13. 2015 St. Louis Cardinals, 128-112 (+3)
14. 1915 Boston Red Sox, 126-114 (+6)
15. 2012 Washington Nationals, 126-114 (-13)
16. 1947 New York Yankees, 126-114 (+8)

The 1913 Philadelphia Athletics made 125 wins and will probably be moving on.


Playoffs:

Qualifying Round:


1993 Chicago White Sox (16) upset the 1980 New York Yankees (1) four games to three
1995 Seattle Mariners (8) defeat the 1996 Texas Rangers (9) four games to two
2011 New York Yankees (13) upset the 1999 New York Yankees (4) four games to two
2016 Boston Red Sox (5) defeat the 1983 Milwaukee Brewers (12) four games to two
2004 Boston Red Sox (3) defeat the 2007 Cleveland Indians (14) four games to two
2007 New York Yankees (6) defeat the 1997 Texas Rangers (11) four games to three
1984 Toronto Blue Jays (10) upset the 2002 Oakland Athletics (7) four games to zero
2001 Oakland Athletics (2) defeat the 2012 Chicago White Sox (15) four games to three

1947 New York Yankees (16) upset the 2003 Florida Marlins (1) four games to one
1953 New York Yankees (8) defeat the 1961 Detroit Tigers (9) four games to zero
1915 Boston Red Sox (14) upset the 1984 Chicago Cubs (3) four games to three
1924 Cincinnati Reds (4) defeat the 2015 St. Louis Cardinals (13) four games to two
1911 Philadelphia Athletics (5) defeat the 2007 San Diego Padres (12) four games to one
1980 Montreal Expos (6) defeat the 2008 Philadelphia Phillies (11) four games to one
1902 Cincinnati Reds (10) upset the 1982 Montreal Expos (7) four games to one
1991 Atlanta Braves (2) defeat the 2012 Washington Nationals (15) four games to three


Sweet Sixteen:

1995 Seattle Mariners (8) defeat the 1993 Chicago White Sox (16) four games to one
2004 Boston Red Sox (3) defeat the 2011 New York Yankees (13) four games to three
2016 Boston Red Sox (5) defeat the 2007 New York Yankees (6) four games to two
2001 Oakland Athletics (2) defeat the 1984 Toronto Blue Jays (10) four games to three

1953 New York Yankees (8) defeat the 1947 New York Yankees (16) four games to three
1915 Boston Red Sox (14) upset the 1924 Cincinnati Reds (4) four games to two
1911 Philadelphia Athletics (5) defeat the 1980 Montreal Expos (6) four games to three
1991 Atlanta Braves (2) defeat the 1902 Cincinnati Reds (10) four games to two


Elite Eight:

2004 Boston Red Sox (3) defeat the 1995 Seattle Mariners (8) four games to one
2001 Oakland Athletics (2) defeat the 2016 Boston Red Sox (5) four games to one

1953 New York Yankees (8) defeat the 1915 Boston Red Sox (14) four games to one
1911 Philadelphia Athletics (5) upset the 1991 Atlanta Braves (2) four games to one


Pennant Series:

2004 Boston Red Sox (3) upset the 2001 Oakland Athletics (2) four games to zero

1911 Philadelphia Athletics (5) defeat the 1953 New York Yankees (8) four games to zero


World Series:

The 1911 Philadelphia Athletics (5) upset the 2004 Boston Red Sox (3) four games to three
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League 1-5 Team Roster:

Original League 1:

1901 St. Louis Cardinals
1906 Chicago White Sox
1907 Detroit Tigers
1908 New York Giants
1909 New York Giants
1910 Boston Americans
1911 Chicago White Sox
1912 Chicago Cubs
1913 New York Giants
1915 Philadelphia Phillies
1920 Chicago White Sox
1923 Cleveland Indians
1926 New York Yankees
1928 New York Yankees
1930 Philadelphia Athletics
1930 Chicago Cubs
1931 Washington Senators
1933 St. Louis Cardinals
1934 Detroit Tigers
1936 Pittsburgh Pirates
1937 Chicago Cubs
1938 New York Yankees
1938 Detroit Tigers
1939 New York Yankees
1939 Boston Red Sox
1943 Cincinnati Reds
1945 Washington Senators
1956 Chicago White Sox
1958 Milwaukee Braves
1960 Chicago White Sox
1962 New York Yankees
1965 Minnesota Twins
1965 San Francisco Giants
1966 Los Angeles Dodgers
1966 Minnesota Twins
1967 Minnesota Twins
1968 St. Louis Cardinals
1970 New York Mets
1976 Cincinnati Reds
1979 Pittsburgh Pirates
1982 Pittsburgh Pirates
1984 San Diego Padres
1992 Montreal Expos
1993 Houston Astros
2001 San Francisco Giants
2002 Arizona Diamondbacks
2002 St. Louis Cardinals
2016 Los Angeles Dodgers

Fun group here. The two teams on either side of the 1927 Yankees are here, the 1939 Yankees are here (generally considered the best of the Dimaggio teams), the 1976 Reds are here . . . should be fun.


Original League 2:

1903 Chicago Cubs
1904 New York Giants
1904 Cleveland Naps
1905 Philadelphia Athletics
1908 Chicago Cubs
1908 Pittsburgh Pirates
1908 Chicago White Sox
1909 Chicago Cubs
1910 Detroit Tigers
1910 New York Yankees
1925 Washington Senators
1928 Pittsburgh Pirates
1932 Philadelphia Athletics
1933 Chicago Cubs
1936 Washington Senators
1946 St. Louis Cardinals
1946 Brooklyn Dodgers
1947 Cleveland Indians
1947 Detroit Tigers
1950 Cleveland Indians
1951 Boston Braves
1956 Detroit Tigers
1957 Chicago White Sox
1962 Los Angeles Dodgers
1962 Pittsburgh Pirates
1963 Chicago White Sox
1965 Chicago White Sox
1965 Baltimore Orioles
1967 Chicago Cubs
1969 Chicago Cubs
1969 New York Mets
1969 Pittsburgh Pirates
1970 Boston Red Sox
1971 Baltimore Orioles
1971 Pittsburgh Pirates
1981 Los Angeles Dodgers
1984 Houston Astros
1990 Montreal Expos
1993 Montreal Expos
1994 Cincinnati Reds
1994 Houston Astros
1994 Los Angeles Dodgers
1995 Cincinnati Reds
2000 Colorado Rockies
2002 Atlanta Braves
2013 St. Louis Cardinals
2014 Washington Nationals
2014 Los Angeles Dodgers

Some interesting early Cubs teams (who never seem to do well in OOTP, but whatevs) another 40s Cardinals team, the 1971 World Series on both sides (Orioles and Pirates), and some nice recent teams led by the '13 Cardinals and the '14 Nationals. Good Times!
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