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12-29-2010, 02:42 PM
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Ken Griffey Jr.
BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .285/.371/.541/.912 Sim: .278/.364/.523/.886 641 HR HR per 1000 AB Real: 64 Sim: 61 |
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12-29-2010, 02:44 PM
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How did Fergie Jenkins and Larry walker do?
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12-29-2010, 02:53 PM
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Fergie Jenkins
W-L, ERA, WHIP, IP Real: 284-226, 3.34, 1.14, 4500 Sim: 277-206, 2.79, 1.08, 4614 K per 1000 BF, BB per 1000 BF, HR Allowed per 1000 BF, K:BB ratio Real: 173, 54, 26, 3.20 Sim: 178, 50, 22, 3.53 Larry Walker BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .313/.400/.565/.965 Sim: .300/.387/.521/.908 In the sim, all park factors were set to neutral. So he did not get the benefit of playing in the hitter friendly Coors Field. |
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12-29-2010, 04:07 PM
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did you change the park modifiers? I am currently using Gambo's 2007 chart and making sure that all the #'s are correct as of 1882....also what other unique settings do u have? while I dont care if Ruth hits 714 i am hoping he hits over 500 unless i draft him for the White Sox which only 2 players from 1910-1973? have hit 20 HR in a single season in Old Comiskey.
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12-30-2010, 03:17 PM
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How about Dick Allen, Mike Schmidt, and Richie Ashburn, some of the Phillies all-time greats.
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12-30-2010, 04:02 PM
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Never heard of 'em.
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12-30-2010, 06:40 PM
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Chicagofan76 - I will post my league strategy settings and the other options I used for the sim. I used neutral park factors for all teams all seasons. Old Comiskey Park probably didn't have anythng to do with the fact that the Whit Sox never had any great sluggers. What is Gambo's Chart? What information are you using from it?
PhillieFever - Dick Allen BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .292/.378/.534/.912 Sim: .299/.388/.530/.918 Mike Schmidt BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .267/.380/.527/.908 Sim: .272/.393/.531/.924 Richie Ashburn BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .308/.396/.382/.778 Sim: .296/.386/.373/.758 |
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12-30-2010, 07:24 PM
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so what r the #'s for sherm lollar, Norm Cash Luis Apricio and Nellie Fox & Al Smith |
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12-30-2010, 07:34 PM
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What is the exact database that you used and the link to it? What were your key settings for retire according to history, etc.?
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12-30-2010, 09:31 PM
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I used the default in-game DB and the neutralized stats option.
Suspensions: Off Injuries: Off Position Player Fatigue: High Talent Change Randomness: 1 Disable Player Development: Yes (This disables in-season ratings changes. Players still get recalculated at the beginning of each season.) AI Lineup Selection: Traditional Ratings Weight: 100 Current Year Stats Weight: 0 Previous Year Stats Weight: 0 2 Years Ago Stats Weight: 0 DH Rule: Off for both leagues all seasons Active Roster Size: 50 Use Pre-Defined Draft Values: Yes Amateur Draft Date: December 1st Financial System: Off Automatically Expand League: Off (I do this manually) Automaticaly Adjust League Strategy: Off (I have my own preferred settings) Retire Players According to History: On Players Miss Seasons According to History: No Recalc Player Ratings Based on real stats each year: Yes Ratings recalculation base: 3 years Base Ratings On: Neutralized Stats Base Fielding Ratings On: 3-yr period Base Picher Stamina On: 3-yr Period Automatically Adjust League Totals Modifiers After Each Season for Historical Accuracy: Yes Years: Games, Rotation Size and Mode 1871-1878: 56 G, 1-man 1879-1881: 84 G, 2-man strict 1882-1885: 105 G, 2-man strict 1886-1889: 135 G, 3-man strict 1890-1900: 135 G, 4-man highest 1901-1960: 154 G, 4-man strict 1961-1968: 162 G, 4-man strict 1969-2010: 162 G, 5-man highest 1871-2009 PH for Pitchers: Very Rarely PH for Players: Rarely Defensive Substitutions: Normal Stolen Bases: Normal Hit & Run: Very Rarely Bunting: Normal 1871-1900 Use RP: Very Rarely Use CL: Very Rarely Pitcher Stamina: Very High 1901-1960 Use RP: Very Rarely Use CL: Very Rarely P Stamina: Low 1961-1968 Use RP: Very Rarely Use CL: Rarely P Stamina: Very Low 1969-1976 Use RP: Rarely Use CL: Normal P Stamina: Very Low 1977-1992 Use RP: Rarely Use CL: Often P Stamina: Very Low 1993-1997 Use RP: Rarely Use CL: Very Often P Stamina: Very Low 1998-present Use RP: Normal Use CL: Very Often P Stamina: Very Low 1871-1881: 8 teams 1882-1900: 16 teams 1901-1960: 20 teams 1961-1968: 24 teams 1969-present: 32 teams These are the league totals and modifiers I used when I started the league in 1871: AB 100000 H 26500, 1.279 2B 4500, .451 3B 1000, 5.724 HR 2000, .199 BB 9000, .399 HBP 750, .175 K 14000, .023 BABIP .285 I set the Defensive Influence to 1 in the config file. I set the Game Tagup from Third Frequency to 50 in the config file. I set the Game Tagup from Third Success to 50 in the config file. I set the Game Bunting Success to 300 in the config file. I set the Game Bunt for Hit Success to 10 in the config file. I set the SP Stamina IPGS Weight to 100 in the config file. I set the SP Stamina CGP Weight to 1 in the config file. I used a custom Weather file that is set to 80 degrees with no wind for all places all months. I set all park factors to neutral. Last edited by Garlon; 12-30-2010 at 09:41 PM. |
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12-30-2010, 10:08 PM
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A lot of good numbers there. One thing that struck me - seems like the winning pcts of the 300-win club (and especially the almost rans) is kinda low. I think most members of the 300-win club are closer to .600 win pct. There's even a few guys in your sim with sub-.500 records.
I wonder if the RP settings are actually too low in some of the earlier eras. Just a thought. Thx for sharing. |
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12-31-2010, 12:44 AM
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Is it possible to post a 1871 quickstart with these settings?
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12-31-2010, 05:02 PM
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TribeFanInNC - The RP and CL settings I used were chosen because they seemed to produce the closest IPouts per Relief Apearance in each time period.
Some of the Win% for SP's do seem low, but I think this is primarily due to the competetive balance in OOTP. I posted some real vs sim comparisons of pitchers, and their K/BB/HR Allowed rates were all very close to their real life rates. It is possible that in some cases that the AI is allowing SP's to pitch too long in games and they actually end of pitching themselves out of potential wins - I really don't know if that is a valid argument though since my league IPouts per GS was matched to the historical values each season. ScoMan - I'll see what I can do with regards to a QS. |
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12-31-2010, 07:41 PM
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With this much testing and research, I really hope that Markus might consider this as default settings.
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01-01-2011, 02:41 PM
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01-01-2011, 02:55 PM
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Just curious about the reasoning behind the config changes. Especially the tag-up ones, since IMO it looks as though tag ups are a bit low.
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01-01-2011, 07:52 PM
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I set the Defensive Influence to 1 in the config file.
I did this because I thought the difference between the best and worst fielders are too great in historical simulations. I could have chosen a different value, but this basically made all fielders equal except for their FLD% (Error rating). I figured that if I did this no pitchers in the league would get an unfair advantage or disadvantage in the simulation. I set the Game Tagup from Third Frequency to 50 in the config file. I set the Game Tagup from Third Success to 50 in the config file. I did this because in other simulations I found that there were issues with the OF Assists Modifier. I probably could have altered the TagUp from Second frequency, but this is a change I made in the config file months ago. I never bothered to switch it. I simply noted it as one of the settings I used. I also think that fewer Runs Scoring on Sac Flies is a good thing in terms of getting league R/G corrrect in al time periods. I set the Game Bunting Success to 300 in the config file. I did this because in the modern era in which one league has a DH, OOTP struggles to produce the correct Sac per Ab ratio, and the modifier climbs higher and higher. I could have left this at 100 since I did not use a DH in my simulation. I set the Game Bunt for Hit Success to 10 in the config file. I did this because player Bunt for Hit ratings are not conected to their Contact (BABIP ratings). I did this just in case any player imported with a hih Bunt for Hit rating. Such players could otehrwise rack up too many hits and steal league hits away from other players. I set the SP Stamina IPGS Weight to 100 in the config file. I set the SP Stamina CGP Weight to 1 in the config file. I did this because I wanted to model SP IPouts per Game Started throughout history instead of historical league CG%. |
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01-01-2011, 09:01 PM
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01-01-2011, 09:53 PM
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From the Load Screen select:
Game Preferences>Troubleshooting tab>"open folder containing file 'app.cfg' button Right Click on the file called "engine" and select "Open with" then choose to open it with Notepad. When you open the file with notepad you can edit some of the game engine values. Be careful when editing this file. Just replace the default values with ones you'd prefer. Then save the file when done. I suggest restarting OOTP after making any changes to make sure they take effect. |
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01-02-2011, 01:25 AM
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I figured I'd post more results:
Catchers Gary Carter BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .262/.335/.439/.773 Sim: .263/.337/.441/.778 Johny Bench BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .267/.342/.476/.817 Sim: .272/.349/.466/.815 Ted Simmons BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .285/.348/.437/.785 Sim: .281/.336/.430/.766 1Bmen Don Mattingly BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .307/.358/.471/.830 Sim: .306/.357/.485/.842 Jeff Bagwell BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .297/.408/.540/.948 Sim: .306/.415/.549/.964 Bill Terry BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .341/.393/.506/.899 Sim: .348/.395/.503/.898 2Bmen Joe Morgan BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .271/.392/.427/.819 Sim: .272/.402/.423/.826 Frankie Frisch BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .316/.369/.432/.801 Sim: .316/.362/.443/.805 Willie Randolph BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .276/.373/.351/.724 Sim: .273/.368/.341/.709 3Bmen Darrell Evans BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .248/.361/.431/.792 Sim: .253/.372/.431/.802 Jimmy Collins BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .294/.343/.409/.752 Sim: .292/.334/.406/.740 Heine Groh BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .292/373/.384/.757 Sim: .296/.373/.393/.765 SS Arky Vaughan BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .318/.406/.453/.859 Sim: .327/.417/.470/.887 Johnny Pesky BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .307/.394/.386/.780 Sim: .304/.381/.391/.772 Tony Fernandez BA/OBP/SLG/OPS Real: .288/.347/.399/.746 Sim: .286/.342/.396/.739 |
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