My FTP team is now more fun than my pay team

Fenixdown · 08-09-2019, 06:04 PM

So, so far in PT '20 I've spent I think $100 on one team. It has no silvers and I think 6-7 diamonds, none of them impressive. It's been stuck in Gold league for awhile. About 5 seasons in or so, I made a FTP team that got some pretty decent players, nobody lower than silver at one point, but nothing impressive. Until collection missions, where my first FTP missions standard pack pulled me a 97 OVR Charlie Gehringer.

I saw it's max buyout all-time was 65k, so after each season ended for me I'd list it on the AH for 60k min/70k buy now. After the fifth time listing it, it finally sold for the 60k! So, I decided I'd try to play the lottery (60k isn't gonna get me junk, anyway) and bought 60 standard packs witht hat plus my remaining PP. And then in those packs, I pulled a 98 OVR Ron Guidry! So, I flipped that one for 80k and bought 80 more packs! And this ended up being the end result after 140 packs.

1 live perfect (DeGrom)
5 diamond pitchers (Verlander, Cole, Corbin, Kluber, & 91 OVR Don Newcombe)
Juan Soto

So now I'm actually doing collection hunting on my team that hasn't spent a single dime and I barely even check on my team that I actually spent some money on. So far, I've completed the Live Tigers, am 4 Marlins away from live completion, and about 6-8 Orioles from that. I have over 70% of the live Angels, but I'll never have Trout so I'm not even bothering. I'm thinking of doing the live Rangers only because they're my favorite team (but the reward for 2 diamond players + the rest is just....blegh), and I'm keeping an eye on the price of Ching Ming Wang for that mission since he's all I'm missing (just like everybody else). And my team is actually hanging around in my division, to boot!

To be honest, this has encouraged me next year to spend $100 on two teams, buying nothing but 175 packs with one and the other making a Rangers theme team (which I did in '19, and it actually made it to Perfect level for a time). But I just wanted to share because I'm just excited that I actually have a team that isn't complete trash anymore.

HRBaker · 08-09-2019, 06:53 PM

Lots of ways to play this game. Have fun

Maxfire5 · 08-09-2019, 08:53 PM

Glad you've found something that's made it fun. A number of ways to play, it's all about fun. I've thoroughly enjoyed both teams being F2P. I started one team day 1, and then recently created a Kansas City theme team. Both are fun in their own regards.

My main team has won a couple diamond leagues but never had much success in perfect (to be expected, when I'm F2P). Really feel that diamond leagues is where I'm most competitive and fun atm. Also enjoyed playing the league created in the thread about stuck in the perfect doldrums playing against a number of other F2P, NF2P, or OL teams.

Theme team has also been fun using some KC greats. Ended up modifying it now to include anybody who has played for a KC team or from the KC area.

All about finding what makes it fun for you so you stay with it.

Dogberry99 · 08-10-2019, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxfire5

Theme team has also been fun using some KC greats. Ended up modifying it now to include anybody who has played for a KC team or from the KC area.

It is kind of a shame that the A's are only represented by 5 cards. I know they were little more than the AAA team for the Yankees during their short 13 year stay, but 5 still seems a touch low.

Bunktown Ballers · 08-11-2019, 05:10 PM

With next years release of PT 21 I no doubt will play only with cards I start off with and cards I earn & buy through AH. Ive been spending money the 1st 2 versions, won a couple of Championships. But it seems like every leagues im in there are 2-3 Whale teams that just smash through the season and playoffs. Last year I played a team in playoffs with every player a Perfect Card...Results were predictable & in was a silver league. He was averaging 120 wins through 10 seasons he had been involved in.

The one thing I wish would happen is that STARTERS can't be moved to Relief roles. Hard to beat a team with Perfect Cards Starters being used to fill out bullpen. Cy Young 100 as closer...It'll never happen bc it'll cut into PT profit.

Ty Cobb · 08-11-2019, 09:22 PM

But then...what about guys like Eck, who began as a pretty good starter, and ended as a heck of a closer?

Maxfire5 · 08-11-2019, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

But then...what about guys like Eck, who began as a pretty good starter, and ended as a heck of a closer?

Or someone like Wade Davis, who was a less than ideal starter, but was insane as a reliever/closer in 14/15.

Mammoth_Mayhem · 08-11-2019, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunktown Ballers

The one thing I wish would happen is that STARTERS can't be moved to Relief roles. Hard to beat a team with Perfect Cards Starters being used to fill out bullpen. Cy Young 100 as closer...It'll never happen bc it'll cut into PT profit.

What about the newfound strategy of using traditional relievers as "openers," while starters are pushed into the bullpen and pitch 3+ innings in relief?

While I see where you are coming from, using starters in the bullpen is just another form of strategy that some managers like to use.

OMGPuppies · 08-11-2019, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mammoth_Mayhem

What about the newfound strategy of using traditional relievers as "openers," while starters are pushed into the bullpen and pitch 3+ innings in relief?

While I see where you are coming from, using starters in the bullpen is just another form of strategy that some managers like to use.

mammoth mayhem has a killer offense

stl jason · 08-12-2019, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunktown Ballers

The one thing I wish would happen is that STARTERS can't be moved to Relief roles. Hard to beat a team with Perfect Cards Starters being used to fill out bullpen. Cy Young 100 as closer...It'll never happen bc it'll cut into PT profit.

which would basically make my team impossible to field.... pre-1945 there are only 13 pitchers in the original card list tagged as RP or CL, (only Wilcy Moore is Diamond rated at 93) with the other 12 at an OVR range between 40 and 75.... not sure a bullpen reliant on Pretzel Pezzullo, Ace Adams, Joe Pate and Frank Gabler is going to cut it in the higher tiers.

chazzycat · 08-12-2019, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mammoth_Mayhem

using starters in the bullpen is just another form of strategy that some managers like to use.

This is true, but at the same time, I feel like it's definitely an advantage for money spending teams. Putting at least one or two SP in your bullpen is probably ideal in terms of overall results, but not really in terms of getting the most WAR per PP spent.

In other words, paying full SP prices, just to pitch less than half the number of innings compared to an SP, is a luxury which FTP teams can rarely afford.

Dogberry99 · 08-12-2019, 05:41 PM

Rather than locking pitchers into roles they filled, I'd rather see position players get tied to specific positions they actually played.

daves · 08-14-2019, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunktown Ballers

The one thing I wish would happen is that STARTERS can't be moved to Relief roles. Hard to beat a team with Perfect Cards Starters being used to fill out bullpen. Cy Young 100 as closer...It'll never happen bc it'll cut into PT profit.

Nolan Ryan was on record stating that he could not play out of the bullpen. He needed too much time to warm up for a game that he could not pitch on a moments notice.

There should be separate stamina ratings when a starters goes to the pen and vica versa.

Ty Cobb · 08-14-2019, 12:51 PM

Worthy suggestion. They do already adjust Stuff when going from SP to RP...so why not?

08-09-2019, 06:04 PM	#1
Fenixdown Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 123	My FTP team is now more fun than my pay team So, so far in PT '20 I've spent I think $100 on one team. It has no silvers and I think 6-7 diamonds, none of them impressive. It's been stuck in Gold league for awhile. About 5 seasons in or so, I made a FTP team that got some pretty decent players, nobody lower than silver at one point, but nothing impressive. Until collection missions, where my first FTP missions standard pack pulled me a 97 OVR Charlie Gehringer. I saw it's max buyout all-time was 65k, so after each season ended for me I'd list it on the AH for 60k min/70k buy now. After the fifth time listing it, it finally sold for the 60k! So, I decided I'd try to play the lottery (60k isn't gonna get me junk, anyway) and bought 60 standard packs witht hat plus my remaining PP. And then in those packs, I pulled a 98 OVR Ron Guidry! So, I flipped that one for 80k and bought 80 more packs! And this ended up being the end result after 140 packs. 1 live perfect (DeGrom) 5 diamond pitchers (Verlander, Cole, Corbin, Kluber, & 91 OVR Don Newcombe) Juan Soto So now I'm actually doing collection hunting on my team that hasn't spent a single dime and I barely even check on my team that I actually spent some money on. So far, I've completed the Live Tigers, am 4 Marlins away from live completion, and about 6-8 Orioles from that. I have over 70% of the live Angels, but I'll never have Trout so I'm not even bothering. I'm thinking of doing the live Rangers only because they're my favorite team (but the reward for 2 diamond players + the rest is just....blegh), and I'm keeping an eye on the price of Ching Ming Wang for that mission since he's all I'm missing (just like everybody else). And my team is actually hanging around in my division, to boot! To be honest, this has encouraged me next year to spend $100 on two teams, buying nothing but 175 packs with one and the other making a Rangers theme team (which I did in '19, and it actually made it to Perfect level for a time). But I just wanted to share because I'm just excited that I actually have a team that isn't complete trash anymore.

08-09-2019, 06:53 PM	#2
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08-09-2019, 08:53 PM	#3
Maxfire5 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 186	Glad you've found something that's made it fun. A number of ways to play, it's all about fun. I've thoroughly enjoyed both teams being F2P. I started one team day 1, and then recently created a Kansas City theme team. Both are fun in their own regards. My main team has won a couple diamond leagues but never had much success in perfect (to be expected, when I'm F2P). Really feel that diamond leagues is where I'm most competitive and fun atm. Also enjoyed playing the league created in the thread about stuck in the perfect doldrums playing against a number of other F2P, NF2P, or OL teams. Theme team has also been fun using some KC greats. Ended up modifying it now to include anybody who has played for a KC team or from the KC area. All about finding what makes it fun for you so you stay with it. __________________ Main Team, $100 F2P Pack Only Team F2P Missouri Theme Team

08-11-2019, 05:10 PM	#5
Bunktown Ballers All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373 Infractions: 0/1 (2)	Next Version Of PT With next years release of PT 21 I no doubt will play only with cards I start off with and cards I earn & buy through AH. Ive been spending money the 1st 2 versions, won a couple of Championships. But it seems like every leagues im in there are 2-3 Whale teams that just smash through the season and playoffs. Last year I played a team in playoffs with every player a Perfect Card...Results were predictable & in was a silver league. He was averaging 120 wins through 10 seasons he had been involved in. The one thing I wish would happen is that STARTERS can't be moved to Relief roles. Hard to beat a team with Perfect Cards Starters being used to fill out bullpen. Cy Young 100 as closer...It'll never happen bc it'll cut into PT profit.

08-11-2019, 09:22 PM	#6
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 3,947 Blog Entries: 66	But then...what about guys like Eck, who began as a pretty good starter, and ended as a heck of a closer? __________________ “What’s the most you ever lost on a coin toss?” “Everyone is an atheist until Templars begin marching in the rain.” Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.—Thomas Sowell "Alinsky works for me now."

08-12-2019, 05:41 PM	#12
Dogberry99 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Wichita Falls, TX Posts: 1,328	Rather than locking pitchers into roles they filled, I'd rather see position players get tied to specific positions they actually played. __________________ "And, Masters, do not forget to specify, when time and place shall serve, that I am an [censored]." (Much Ado About Nothing 5.1.255-256) Primary Team Collection Rewards (Cards & Packs) F2P Theme Team Movers F2P Theme and Adam Schlesinger Memorial Team

08-14-2019, 12:51 PM	#14
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 3,947 Blog Entries: 66	Worthy suggestion. They do already adjust Stuff when going from SP to RP...so why not? __________________ “What’s the most you ever lost on a coin toss?” “Everyone is an atheist until Templars begin marching in the rain.” Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.—Thomas Sowell "Alinsky works for me now."