164 Games?

HeadCheese · 05-06-2014, 09:16 PM

Just finished my first season. Standard 2014 game in MLB, and at the end of September I have two random games in October against two different teams. As for the league, some teams now have 163 games. Others have 164. It's really weird. I'm new to the game and I'm sure it's something I probably screwed up, but could anyone shed some light on how to fix that?

hfield007 · 05-06-2014, 09:29 PM

are you sure these aren't tiebreaker games?

HeadCheese · 05-06-2014, 09:40 PM

Yeah, my team was nowhere near playoff contention so I don't think they were tiebreakers.

Mike D · 05-06-2014, 11:00 PM

Yeah, I'm going to bet on tie breakers as well. I posted about this last week. When more than 2 teams tie for a playoff spot, it gets really wonky.

bazeall · 05-07-2014, 03:30 AM

The guy said his team was not in contention. They were not tie breaker games.

Le Grande Orange · 05-07-2014, 03:35 AM

This sort of thing can happen when the All-Star Game doesn't end up on the date it should for whatever reason. Check to see if when your All-Star Game was and if any clubs ended up playing games that day.

bwburke94 · 05-07-2014, 03:50 AM

Wait, two games against two random teams...

If you're in the AL East, I think we've found the problem. The game might be treating the 2013 wild card game as a regular season game, and because the Rays and Rangers ended tied for WC#2 in 2013...

Le Grande Orange · 05-07-2014, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

Wait, two games against two random teams...

If you're in the AL East, I think we've found the problem. The game might be treating the 2013 wild card game as a regular season game, and because the Rays and Rangers ended tied for WC#2 in 2013...

That would only be true for the as played schedules, not the as scheduled schedules. Plus it would still leave one game unaccounted for.

Orioles1966 · 05-07-2014, 06:12 AM

Use the schedule evaluator with about a week too go in the regular season. If teams are playing more than 162 games,you can delete the extra games so they don't get played. When deleting a game ,make sure that the other team has a replacement game so it has finished with 162 games.

I mess with the regular season so much that this is a great backup plan should you feel that teams might play more than the normal amount of games.

Bamilus · 05-07-2014, 09:28 AM

I had the same thing. Using MLB All In One Mod, playing as Cardinals. Brewers and Cubs played like 2 games after end of season and both were bottom of AL Central (out of contention, no wildcard tiebreaker) so they ended up with 164 games played. After they finished their series on October 5th or whenever the game started the playoffs. I don't really care but it was weird to see.

HeadCheese · 05-07-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bamilus

I had the same thing. Using MLB All In One Mod, playing as Cardinals. Brewers and Cubs played like 2 games after end of season and both were bottom of AL Central (out of contention, no wildcard tiebreaker) so they ended up with 164 games played. After they finished their series on October 5th or whenever the game started the playoffs. I don't really care but it was weird to see.

This describes my situation exactly, except I was playing with the Twins. Same playoff date and mod as well. Did you have the problem occur next season? I'll try editing the schedule like was suggested if it occurs again I suppose.

Khan · 05-07-2014, 08:33 PM

The game has tiebreaker bugs though.

I've seen teams not in contention, ie eliminated from the playoffs, end up playing extra games even though they should not have been involved in the tiebreaker process.
ie.. the game is scheduling extra games not needed

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazeall

The guy said his team was not in contention. They were not tie breaker games.

Bamilus · 05-07-2014, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khan

The game has tiebreaker bugs though.

I've seen teams not in contention, ie eliminated from the playoffs, end up playing extra games even though they should not have been involved in the tiebreaker process.
ie.. the game is scheduling extra games not needed

This sounds like the issue....anyone have a fix that I can use? Where can I find this "schedule evaluator"? I've never edited this before. Thanks!

pstrickert · 05-07-2014, 11:05 PM

Markus will need your league files.

Markus Heinsohn · 05-08-2014, 05:15 AM

I am looking into this.

God I hate the playoff code... this stuff is so complicated and prone to bugs, I swear I'll never touch it again once this issue is sorted.

Orioles1966 · 05-08-2014, 05:36 AM

I'm not too crazy about the (one game) wild-card game. Is there a way too delete it ?

Markus Heinsohn · 05-08-2014, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1966

I'm not too crazy about the (one game) wild-card game. Is there a way too delete it ?

League setup -> playoff option. Disable the custom playoffs there. Need to do it prior to the end of the regular season.

05-08-2014, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

I am looking into this.

God I hate the playoff code... this stuff is so complicated and prone to bugs, I swear I'll never touch it again once this issue is sorted.

As an amateur programmer, I try to use refactoring. But you have to see my "Basketball 1-on-1" in the "Talk about sport". The code was so ugly I abandoned the program (and only later I learned about OOP). If you won't kill the bugs, they will kill you.

Bamilus · 05-08-2014, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

Markus will need your league files.

Unfortunately I won't have access to my home computer until Friday night but I will send them to Markus then. Thanks for the quick response and support, very much appreciated!

Assos · 05-08-2014, 10:13 AM

This is good news that it is being addressed! Thanks M!

05-06-2014, 09:16 PM	#1
HeadCheese Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 6	164 Games? Just finished my first season. Standard 2014 game in MLB, and at the end of September I have two random games in October against two different teams. As for the league, some teams now have 163 games. Others have 164. It's really weird. I'm new to the game and I'm sure it's something I probably screwed up, but could anyone shed some light on how to fix that?

05-06-2014, 11:00 PM	#4
Mike D Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a van, down by the river Posts: 2,789	Yeah, I'm going to bet on tie breakers as well. I posted about this last week. When more than 2 teams tie for a playoff spot, it gets really wonky. __________________ Sometimes the best laid plans will never get you laid the way you plan.

05-08-2014, 05:15 AM	#15
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,739	I am looking into this. God I hate the playoff code... this stuff is so complicated and prone to bugs, I swear I'll never touch it again once this issue is sorted. __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

05-06-2014, 09:29 PM	#2
hfield007 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,651	are you sure these aren't tiebreaker games?

05-06-2014, 09:40 PM	#3
HeadCheese Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 6	Yeah, my team was nowhere near playoff contention so I don't think they were tiebreakers.

05-07-2014, 03:30 AM	#5
bazeall Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 190	The guy said his team was not in contention. They were not tie breaker games.

05-07-2014, 03:35 AM	#6
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,416	This sort of thing can happen when the All-Star Game doesn't end up on the date it should for whatever reason. Check to see if when your All-Star Game was and if any clubs ended up playing games that day.

05-07-2014, 03:50 AM	#7
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,447	Wait, two games against two random teams... If you're in the AL East, I think we've found the problem. The game might be treating the 2013 wild card game as a regular season game, and because the Rays and Rangers ended tied for WC#2 in 2013...

05-07-2014, 06:12 AM	#9
Orioles1966 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,869	Use the schedule evaluator with about a week too go in the regular season. If teams are playing more than 162 games,you can delete the extra games so they don't get played. When deleting a game ,make sure that the other team has a replacement game so it has finished with 162 games. I mess with the regular season so much that this is a great backup plan should you feel that teams might play more than the normal amount of games.

05-07-2014, 09:28 AM	#10
Bamilus Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 36	I had the same thing. Using MLB All In One Mod, playing as Cardinals. Brewers and Cubs played like 2 games after end of season and both were bottom of AL Central (out of contention, no wildcard tiebreaker) so they ended up with 164 games played. After they finished their series on October 5th or whenever the game started the playoffs. I don't really care but it was weird to see.

05-07-2014, 11:05 PM	#14
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,741	Markus will need your league files.

05-08-2014, 05:36 AM	#16
Orioles1966 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,869	I'm not too crazy about the (one game) wild-card game. Is there a way too delete it ?

05-08-2014, 10:13 AM	#20
Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,772	This is good news that it is being addressed! Thanks M!